4_tattoos Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Las Vegas Chargers? Hotter Than July > Thriller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 4 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Not so fast on that Raiders to Vegas move. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/oakland-says-it-has-framework-of-a-deal-to-keep-raiders-from-leaving/ GLORIOUS ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 5 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Not so fast on that Raiders to Vegas move. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/oakland-says-it-has-framework-of-a-deal-to-keep-raiders-from-leaving/ Don't read too much into it just yet. The "framework" they have isn't even the bare minimum the NFL wanted for them to claim they had a viable plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 hours ago, 4_tattoos said: Las Vegas Chargers? Unlikely as Mark Davis signed the contract. If torn up, many in the Clark County Commission would want to start over or at least get more correct numbers. I haven't finished SB1 in full, but should by Thursday. That, or the project may be value engineered to just accommodate UNLV. 3 minutes ago, bosrs1 said: Don't read too much into it just yet. The "framework" they have isn't even the bare minimum the NFL wanted for them to claim they had a viable plan. I'd say that Oakland is slightly further that where they were with the Coliseum City project. Alameda County still owns half, so they must be dealt with along with the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 hours ago, the admiral said: GLORIOUS PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 More details on Oakland's stadium plan. Egbert Perry is out as the private financier working with Ronnie Lott after Perry went to the city council with an unsolicited offer for the Coliseum complex. In is Fortress Investments. 58-60,000 seats $600M from Fortress $300M from Mark Davis $200M from the NFL G-4 Loan $200M from the city and possibly county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Ooh, Fortress, the same people who invested in the Phoenix Coyotes! Boy, that's a great sign! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just read somewhere that it appears the Raiders and Chargers will move barring an unexpected miracle. BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Here, perhaps? http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18183812/san-diego-chargers-exercise-team-option-move-los-angeles-2017 Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Recent little bugbear of mine: there is a not insignificant semantic distinction between "Chargers expected to exercise option for L.A. move, sources say" and "san-diego-chargers-exercise-team-option-move-los-angeles-2017" ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 True enough. This could be a last-ditch attempt at negotiation. Quote The Chargers have a tenant-lease agreement with Rams owner Stan Kroenke that lowers the team's risk because they do not have to borrow money for construction of the $2.6 billion project. The Rams and Chargers would jointly share revenue such as naming rights, suites, sponsors and advertising. The teams would be on their own to sell season tickets and personal seat licenses. Kroenke has motivation to complete a deal with the Chargers, because he cannot begin selling personal seat licenses until reaching a decision on whether the Chargers or Raiders will relocate to Los Angeles. However, the risk for Spanos is that the franchise would be on the hook for a $650 million relocation fee paid over 10 years, determined during the January owners meeting in Houston. Holy . That's almost a third of the Chargers' revenue sharing every year for a decade, gone up in smoke. All to play in a city they have to share, in a stadium that they won't own and that they will only get some of the non-game revenue streams from. That seems crazy. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 5 hours ago, Gothamite said: True enough. This could be a last-ditch attempt at negotiation. Holy . That's almost a third of the Chargers' revenue sharing every year for a decade, gone up in smoke. All to play in a city they have to share, in a stadium that they won't own and that they will only get some of the non-game revenue streams from. That seems crazy. Which is why many in San Diego even after hearing those reports from ESPN yesterday don't think there's any real threat of the Chargers leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 On 11/30/2016 at 11:13 AM, dfwabel said: More details on Oakland's stadium plan. Egbert Perry is out as the private financier working with Ronnie Lott after Perry went to the city council with an unsolicited offer for the Coliseum complex. In is Fortress Investments. 58-60,000 seats $600M from Fortress $300M from Mark Davis $200M from the NFL G-4 Loan $200M from the city and possibly county So smaller stadium than NFL wants, the $200 million is not for the stadium but infrastructure (oh and the city expects the team to surrender non-game day revenues to pay this back so it's really a loan). And you left out the $95 million the city will also want paid back by the team for the ill advised Coliseum expansion for the Raiders in the 90's. Plus no indication yet what the Fortress/Lott group will want in exchange for their $600 million contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 19 hours ago, Gothamite said: Holy . That's almost a third of the Chargers' revenue sharing every year for a decade, gone up in smoke. All to play in a city they have to share, in a stadium that they won't own and that they will only get some of the non-game revenue streams from. That seems crazy. Yup. Which is why if old Deano really wanted to keep the Los Angeles market as much as he wants you to think he does, he should've pushed the button first. Instead, we have the Los Angeles Rams, who despite mediocre on-field results have done pretty smashingly well here in just about all the other areas. The Chargers aren't even here yet, and we've already forgotten about them. | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 It just seems really dumb that the Chargers could share a stadium with a team that could have similar colors to you (assuming the Rams go back to something similar to the blue and yellow look) and is more popular than you are in Los Angeles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Soo... when do we start talking about where the Chargers move next. After LA. @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Hearing rumors that the Chargers are looking at StubHub Center in Carson as a temporary home until Kroenke's palace is built. That would be a switch, an NFL club renting from MLS. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Oh, stop the NFL, I want to get off. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 On 12/2/2016 at 9:18 AM, Gothamite said: True enough. This could be a last-ditch attempt at negotiation. Holy . That's almost a third of the Chargers' revenue sharing every year for a decade, gone up in smoke. All to play in a city they have to share, in a stadium that they won't own and that they will only get some of the non-game revenue streams from. That seems crazy. That's right. The Chargers are going to be the NFL's version of the pre-Chris Paul/Blake Griffin Clippers. I'm sure that will go very swimmingly. http://i.imgur.com/Pyc5qRH.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/RDXvxFE.gif LED Sig Credits to packerfan21396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Gothamite said: Hearing rumors that the Chargers are looking at StubHub Center in Carson as a temporary home until Kroenke's palace is built. That would be a switch, an NFL club renting from MLS. At a 27,000 seat stadium? I don't think the NFL would let that fly. Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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