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I'm going to see the New York Yankees, a baseball team in New York, at Yankee Stadium, a stadium in New York where the New York Yankees play.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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A spat between Mark Davis and Sheldon Adelson feels like it's going to end with neither one involved in the NFL. As we speak, Rodge is probably looking for big Bay Area money to buy Al's failson out of the league once and for all.

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On 10/28/2016 at 1:35 PM, the admiral said:

A spat between Mark Davis and Sheldon Adelson feels like it's going to end with neither one involved in the NFL. As we speak, Rodge is probably looking for big Bay Area money to buy Al's failson out of the league once and for all.

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I've got to believe that this isn't the first time they've thought about ways to kick Mark out of the club. 

 

Of course, the league would probably prefer to remain in Oakland, so if his Vegas stadium falls through and he somehow gets a stadium

in the East Bay they'll have to give Mark a few decades more 

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Latest Polling out of San Diego on the Chargers stadium measure there. Seems poised to not only lose, but not even get to the 50% threshold where they could attempt to sue over the 2/3rd vote requirement (as a new tax requires 2/3rd to pass in California Currently). Currently it's only polling at 40% For to 48% Against with 12% undecided. It fares even worse among those that have already cast mail in ballots with 42% having voted Yes, and 54% having voted no with the remainder having abstained.

 

Question becomes now, does the defeat of their San Diego measure prompt them to move to LA, or do they stay and try to renegotiate? Or does it all hinge on if the Raiders are going to go to Vegas, and thus remove any urgency for the Chargers to make an LA move?

 

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Lost in all of the Presidential hoopla, the San Diego Stadium measure failed badly, receiving only 39% approval.

 

I guess it's going to be the Los Angeles Chargers and Las Vegas Raiders in the near future. What a weird year 2016 has been.

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4 minutes ago, Rockstar Matt said:

Lost in all of the Presidential hoopla, the San Diego Stadium measure failed badly, receiving only 39% approval.

 

I guess it's going to be the Los Angeles Chargers and Las Vegas Raiders in the near future. What a weird year 2016 has been.

 

Trump inviting a SB winning Las Vegas Raiders to the WH would outdo anything from the Back to the Future trilogy.  Bar none.

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-Cubs win World Series (A great thing)

-Pro sports in Las Vegas

-The possibility of a Cowboys-Patriots Super Bowl

-When not if the Chargers relocate then both teams in LA will be blue & gold

-Donald Trump elected President

 

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5 hours ago, Rockstar Matt said:

Lost in all of the Presidential hoopla, the San Diego Stadium measure failed badly, receiving only 39% approval.

 

I guess it's going to be the Los Angeles Chargers and Las Vegas Raiders in the near future. What a weird year 2016 has been.

 

Well it climbed to 42% in the final analysis. Let's wait and see if that's enough to bring the Chargers back to the table in SD first as they implied a certain threshold would.

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4 hours ago, Gothamite said:

I still don't see them being too happy as Kroenke's tenant, but we'll see.

 

Exactly. Which is why before the election they'd already started making overtures about coming back to the table if the vote went decently for them. Considering they did no real PR toward non football fans getting 43% (the final total for the measure) for their rushed half ass measure was not bad at all. That and with the Raiders poised to go to Vegas the Chargers urgency will not be very high to get into LA2.

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I have been a San Diego Chargers fan since 1980. Since their latest stadium ballot has failed, I'm just curious (because others have asked me), what will I do if the Chargers leave San Diego? Should I root for the Los Angeles (or wherever) Chargers, begin to root for another team (my #2 team is probably Seattle, since I grew up in the area), or just root for players and not care about the teams?

 

If they don't move, then no issue. And I generally root for players more than teams unless I have a distinct feeling about the team. I don't live anywhere near Southern California, a long story how I came to root for them growing up.

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I am not sure you decide that as much as it just comes to you.

 

I lost the North Stars.  I was immediately done...I don't recall making a conscious decision...I just think them having left zapped my interest.*  Six years later they were in the finals.  I had some friends cheering for them.  I was cheering against them (sour grapes and all).  I don't think either of us was right...it's just how we felt.

 

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If you don't live anywhere near San Diego, then why would it matter to you if they moved? I'm a Buccaneers fan who's lived on the West Coast my whole life and if the Bucs moved to Los Angeles/Las Vegas/London/Timbuktu it wouldn't matter to me in the slightest. It's still going to be me spending my Sundays scouring ATHDE.me for a semi-decent stream that ends in inevitable disappointment after they blow it vs the Falcons or Jets. 

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7 hours ago, smzimbabwe said:

I have been a San Diego Chargers fan since 1980. Since their latest stadium ballot has failed, I'm just curious (because others have asked me), what will I do if the Chargers leave San Diego? Should I root for the Los Angeles (or wherever) Chargers, begin to root for another team (my #2 team is probably Seattle, since I grew up in the area), or just root for players and not care about the teams?

 

If they don't move, then no issue. And I generally root for players more than teams unless I have a distinct feeling about the team. I don't live anywhere near Southern California, a long story how I came to root for them growing up.

 

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8 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

I am not sure you decide that as much as it just comes to you.

 

I lost the North Stars.  I was immediately done...I don't recall making a conscious decision...I just think them having left zapped my interest.*  Six years later they were in the finals.  I had some friends cheering for them.  I was cheering against them (sour grapes and all).  I don't think either of us was right...it's just how we felt.

 

*I decided to choose the Red Wings as my team (why?  uniforms; what else?).  Didn't really take.  My NHL fandom never did totally recover (even with the Wild) but I was a guy without a team.  I guess if it happens (I hope not) you'll figure it out.  My only insight is that it's hard to consciously decide.

 

I agree with most of this.  After the Colts moved, I tried to adopt the Redskins but it didn't take.*  I followed the Eagles in law school in the early 90s because they were always on my local TV and I liked Buddy Ryan and Randall Cunningham.  However, there was never truly a passion in that relationship.

 

Where OnWis97 and I part ways is that my NFL fandom returned when the Ravens came to town.  There was still a feeling out period, but by around 1999, the passion was back.  It would drive me nuts to be away from a TV (or at least a radio) at 1:00 on a Sunday . . . and there were no smartphones to use to follow scores.


Bottom line . . . it is hard to consciously decide.  Whatever happens . . . happens.

 

* -- Coincidentally, I have always used the phrase "it didn't take" when discussing this topic.  It's interesting to see someone else use the same words.

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34 minutes ago, leopard88 said:

Bottom line . . . it is hard to consciously decide.  Whatever happens . . . happens.

 

 

This, a thousand times this.  

 

I tried so hard to be an MLS fan before we had one in New York.  I looked around, tried to pick a club to follow - I started with the Philadelphia Union, since I loved the Sons of Ben.  But that never went anywhere; I bought a cap I couldn't bring myself to wear, and watching matches remotely was sterile and bland.  So I thought I would be a fan of the Portland Timbers - I went to school in Oregon and saw some of their matches when they were in the A-League.  Seemed like a good enough fit, but I never even got to the "buying a hat" part before I dropped it, feeling phony and forced.   It wasn't until we had a club in the city that I really fell in love and settled down.

 

At its best, our sports loyalty is an emotional connection, and you can't force it any more than you can an emotional connection with another human being.  You either click or you don't.

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2 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

At its best, our sports loyalty is an emotional connection, and you can't force it any more than you can an emotional connection with another human being.  You either click or you don't.

 

Seconded.

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