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...and Adam LaRoche retires because the White Sox didn't want his kid spending 24/7 in the locker room. 

 

 

 

Kenny Williams:

 

“There has been no policy change with regards to allowance of kids in the clubhouse, on the field, the back fields during spring training. This young man that we’re talking about, Drake, everyone loves this young man. In no way do I want this to be about him.

“I asked Adam, said, ‘Listen, our focus, our interest, our desire this year is to make sure we give ourselves every opportunity to focus on a daily basis on getting better. All I’m asking you to do with regard to bringing your kid to the ballpark is dial it back.’

“I don’t think he should be here 100 percent of the time - and he has been here 100 percent, every day, in the clubhouse. I said that I don’t even think he should be here 50 percent of the time. Figure it out, somewhere in between.

“We all think his kid is a great young man. I just felt it should not be every day, that’s all. You tell me, where in this country can you bring your child to work every day?”

 

http://deadspin.com/adam-laroche-retired-because-the-white-sox-wouldnt-let-1765311014

 

It's all kinda creepy.

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Kenny Williams is clueless.  The clubhouse is NOT the workplace for ball players: The field is.  So Adam LaRoche can't bring his son to the park, okay, so that means the ChiSox are getting rid of their bat boys next?

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5 hours ago, CS85 said:

The Cardinal Way

 

 

57 minutes ago, Needschat said:

Kenny Williams is clueless.  The clubhouse is NOT the workplace for ball players: The field is.  So Adam LaRoche can't bring his son to the park, okay, so that means the ChiSox are getting rid of their bat boys next?

This is a dumb take. They have team meetings in the clubhouse, study opponents, talk about gameplans, handle their off the field business. That is absolutely part of their workplace. The bat boys are employees of the team. 

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1 hour ago, McCarthy said:
7 hours ago, CS85 said:

The Cardinal Way

 

 

2 hours ago, Needschat said:

Kenny Williams is clueless.  The clubhouse is NOT the workplace for ball players: The field is.  So Adam LaRoche can't bring his son to the park, okay, so that means the ChiSox are getting rid of their bat boys next?

This is a dumb take. They have team meetings in the clubhouse, study opponents, talk about gameplans, handle their off the field business. That is absolutely part of their workplace. The bat boys are employees of the team. 

And the Cardinal story shows that a baseball clubhouse probably isn't the best environment for a 14-year-old kid.

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Adam LaRoche has always been a weird guy.  I remember some story about him when he was a kid....took his dog to school or summer camp or something like that and forgot to bring the dog home.

 

In possible defense of Adam....he was the son of a major league ballplayer himself.  Perhaps he was brought up in a similar manner, by being around the ballpark all the time.

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Good for the White Sox. Adam LaRoche has clearly never lived a day in the real world and considering his son is "home schooled" (not sure how though if he's in a stadium every day) his kid is separated from reality too.  

 

It's no place for kids and players shouldn't have to have to watch what they say because a kid is around or feel uncomfortable in any way. 

 

They're better off without a player that thinks like he does. he doesn't "get" working, and he doesn't get parenting either. 

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Imagine if every player wanted to bring a kid to the clubhouse every day.  That wouldn't cause any issues, would it?

 

I was not really sure what was going on until I saw support from Blaine Boyer (the guy who organized the Twins field trip to the Creation Museum last year)...then the home/clubhouse schooling factor became apparent.  It's not my job to judge, but the White Sox are totally within their rights and allowing the kid to spend that much time there was really special treatment for one player.

 

LaRoache's reaction, while surprising, is reasonable, for his situation, I guess...it shows where his priorities are and is probably a good indication that he's been smart with his money.  So it's his business.  But yes, the clubhouse IS part of the work place.  Winning enough MLB games to get to the postseason is a function of more than what goes on on the field.  

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17 hours ago, McCarthy said:

The Cardinal Way

 

 

This is a dumb take. They have team meetings in the clubhouse, study opponents, talk about gameplans, handle their off the field business. That is absolutely part of their workplace. The bat boys are employees of the team. 

We're talking sports here.  This isn't rocket science we're talking about, nothing earth shattering would be discussed openly.  They are paid to PLAY, not be in the clubhouse.  If they had individual meetings to discuss opponents, they were in rooms with video equipment.   This is another case of "Get Off My Lawn."

 

There was an agreement LAST season.  Now Drake is NOT accepted.  What changed?  Oh yeah, Adam hit .207.  If he he .307 with 30+ home runs, would Kenny Williams bring this up?  I think no.

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10 minutes ago, Needschat said:

We're talking sports here.  This isn't rocket science we're talking about, nothing earth shattering would be discussed openly.  They are paid to PLAY, not be in the clubhouse.  If they had individual meetings to discuss opponents, they were in rooms with video equipment.   This is another case of "Get Off My Lawn."

 

There was an agreement LAST season.  Now Drake is NOT accepted.  What changed?  Oh yeah, Adam hit .207.  If he he .307 with 30+ home runs, would Kenny Williams bring this up?  I think no.

Baseball teams have full team meetings out in the open in the clubhouse. Source: I know a guy with the Reds. There's also trainers, equipment people, coaches, other team personnel in there. It's not just the players who work for these teams who need to be in the clubhouse and the clubhouse is used for far more than just hanging out. It's absolutely a part of their workplace regardless of what they're paid to do. 

 

I'm paid to do work at my desk, but if somebody's kid was always hanging out in the break room and that break room also happens to be where I change and shower, yeah I'd have a problem with that. I know a lot of big leaguers bring their kids around sometimes, Griffey Jr hung around with the Big Red Machine as a kid, but he wasn't there EVERY DAY.

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The White Sox gave the kid his own personalized stall and everything. That's ridiculous. 

 

In North Side controversy, Joe Maddon is a sad panda because Chicago is banning smokeless tobacco the way San Francisco did. It's not that he has a problem with it, he just thinks players should be educated on the topic! (Which they are, extensively!)

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Workplaces don't typically allow people to smoke or chew tobacco on the job while they're in the working area. But baseball players think they're special snowflakes who should be allowed to satisfy their addiction while working. Sad.

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Regarding the chew, I've always had a problem with "it's their personal choice..."  I know if I went to a meeting with a big wad of brown crap in my mouth, it would not go over so well.  Probably because it would be a bad "look" in representing my employer.  So it makes total sense to me for MLB and/or teams to tell their players they cannot use it on the field.  

 

I am not so sure it's up to the City to say that though.

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3 hours ago, Needschat said:

There was an agreement LAST season.  Now Drake is NOT accepted.  What changed?  Oh yeah, Adam hit .207.  If he he .307 with 30+ home runs, would Kenny Williams bring this up?  I think no.

 

What changed? I don't think White Sox management realized just how often LaRoche's son was at the office.  Now that they do, a formal disinvitation is necessary.  Also Robin Ventura appears to be overpaid since he can't manage this team.

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48 minutes ago, rams80 said:

 

What changed? I don't think White Sox management realized just how often LaRoche's son was at the office.  Now that they do, a formal disinvitation is necessary.  Also Robin Ventura appears to be overpaid since he can't manage this team.

 

Laroche hit .207.  

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55 minutes ago, rams80 said:

 

What changed? I don't think White Sox management realized just how often LaRoche's son was at the office.  Now that they do, a formal disinvitation is necessary.  Also Robin Ventura appears to be overpaid since he can't manage this team.

 

No, they knew. They gave the kid his own stall and everything. I've heard this was all negotiated in LaRoche's contract, but that sounds pretty daffy to me (with the disclaimer that I'm used to the NHL's boilerplate provisions -- I can't wrap my head around all the incentives, options, and flights of fancy that are permissible in baseball contracts). It sounds like some players (I'm hearing Jimmy Rollins, good for him) complained to management about the little kid milling about their clubhouse, and with LaRoche being a designated hitter who can't hit for his own weight, no longer had the juju with management to get away with this particular perk (which, again, he never should have been given in the first place).

 

Of course, because we're talking about the Chicago White Sox, an organization with both the structure and the temperament of a wad of barbed wire, they somehow managed to make a complete hash out of something should have been self-evident, namely that kids have no business tagging along with ballplayers to this extent. Now Kenny has gone and really pissed off Chris Sale over this, because apparently now Chris Sale has some emotional stake in this whole thing, and once again, Robin Ventura looks like he's being overridden and undermined at the same time. I'd say this isn't what anyone wants if I didn't think it was exactly what Jerry Reinsdorf wants, because now he gets to involve himself and broker some sort of peace summit among Kenny, Ventura, Rollins, and this strange cadre of Bible-thumping homeschoolniks who think a kid can learn more around naked men drinking beer than he can in school. 

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$12M/year off the books for a neverwas who barely hits over the Mendoza? Kenny Williams, you brilliant, brilliant man.

 

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Headline: "Adam LaRoche gets support from Duck Dynasty among others"

 

Yep. I think we're done here. ?

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16 hours ago, the admiral said:

 

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Of course, because we're talking about the Chicago White Sox... 

The right decision was made here, but it needed to be made (and it cheesed people off) because they allowed it to occur.  So the White Sox don't come out of this mess smelling that great.  If they'd just put a stop to in when the should have, nobody would be whining about this.  And while LaRoche's supporters are probably right that the decision came about because of his lacking production last year, it's not a defense of "bring your kid to work year" but an indictment that it had been allowed, presumably as special treatment when LaRoche was serviceable.

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