McCall Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Same-city teams are two teams in one market. Same-state teams are two teams in the same state.I know the difference. Everyone knows the difference. It's been established. But thanks anyway. Feel free to keep repeating that though, if it helps you.There's no rule against it because it's just something that's common sense. There's also no rule against a team in the Artic Circle, but the likelihood of it happening is basically nonexistent.Leave ridiculous comparisons out of it. The odds of two same-city teams ending up in the same league is MUCH higher than the odds of a team being placed in the Arctic Circle. You sure you want to be the one introducing the concept of "common sense" into this discussion?Did I say it was more likely to happen? No I didn't. I said there's no rule against it, but it's not likely to happen. Same with same-market teams in the same league. Maybe you don't quite understand grown-up talk. That or you just can't accept that you might actually wrong about something. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 A 25-team league for the 25 states that has no major sports team (most likely basketball)Northeast:VermontNew HampshireMaineConnecticutRhode IslandEast:DelawareSouth CarolinaVirginiaKentuckyNorth:IowaSouth DakotaNorth DakotaWyomingNebraskaSouth: ArkansasMississippiAlabamaKansasNew MexicoWest:AlaskaHawaiiMontanaIdahoNevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 It looks more like a 24 team League rather than a 25 one. Regardless, I think this League would be better suited for four divisions and not five. Here's how I would restructure the League:Atlantic:ConnecticutDelawareNew HampshireMaineRhode IslandVermontSouth:AlabamaArkansasKentuckyMississippiSouth CarolinaVirginiaGreat Plains:IowaKansasNebraskaNew MexicoNorth DakotaSouth DakotaPacific:AlaskaHawaiiIdahoMontanaNevadaWyomingNote: Italicized State are new additions to the Division.Regular Season:40 (2H, 2A) games versus Division36 (1H, 1A) games versus rest of LeaguePlayoffs:Division Winners are seeded #1 - #4 with the #1 Seed clinching the best record.Four wild card winners, regardless of Divisions, are seeded based on regular season record. Note: If teams are tied, then the initial tiebreaker would be W-L record against each other, followed by record versus common opponents.Playoffs are reseeded after Quarterfinals, i.e., highest seed remaining hosts lowest seed remaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Crap. I forgot to put West Virginia in the original 25-team post that I made recently. So it'll have to stay with a 25-team, 5-division structure. However, I could probably omit Kansas, since they now have a MLS team in Kansas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Not sure if anyone has heard of this site, but I thought this would be the appropriate thread to put the link to it in.http://www.tomfulery.com/category/sports/hockey/nhl-realignment-project/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Zephyr III Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Here's my idea for the NBA...essentially convert it to a two-tier league, with the regular league shrunk down to 28 and a 16-team lower-tier league. Basically, if a team in the premier tier has a lower winning percentage than the highest team in the lower league after four years, then the two teams would switch places til the following cycle. So a team like Charlotte or Sacramento would switch out with two of the teams in the lower bracket. This would prevent tanking as well as keep the quality of play at a high level.So here's how the premier league would look:EASTERN CONFERENCEATLANTICWashington WizardsMiami HeatNew York KnicksBrooklyn NetsBoston CelticsOrlando MagicPhiladelphia 76ersCENTRALMilwaukee BucksAtlanta HawksCleveland CavaliersChicago BullsDetroit PistonsIndiana PacersToronto RaptorsWESTERN CONFERENCEMIDWESTHouston RocketsDenver NuggetsNew Orleans Captains (personal favorite for new name)San Antonio SpursDallas MavericksMemphis Grizzlies (switched with Minnesota)Oklahoma City Thunder (switched from Pacific with Utah)PACIFICPhoenix SunsLos Angeles ClippersUtah Jazz (switched from Midwest with OKC)San Francisco WarriorsLos Angeles LakersPortland TrailblazersMinnesota Timberwolves (switched with Memphis)Now under this scenario, Charlotte and Sacramento have been relegated to the new Developmental League, which I'll dub the Pro League. This would be the breeding ground for other markets that haven't had an NBA team; basically they'd be fighting for the right to join the Premier League.WESTERN CONFERENCESacramento KingsSeattle SupersonicsSan Diego Missions San Jose DigitsAlbuquerque CoyotesKansas City RidersLas Vegas LightsMexico City Eagles/Ciudad de México ÁguilasEASTERN CONFERENCEBaltimore MonumentsJacksonville SnappersCharlotte BobcatsCincinnati GladiatorsNew Jersey ElitesKentucky ColonelsProvidence JacketsBirmingham RebelsSo, with this setup, let's say that over the next four years Toronto and San Francisco bottom out in the Premier League and the New Jersey Elites and the revived Seattle Supersonics do the best in their respective conference in the Pro League. The teams would switch, putting New Jersey in Toronto's place and Seattle in San Francisco's place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Here's my idea for the NBA...essentially convert it to a two-tier league, with the regular league shrunk down to 28 and a 16-team lower-tier league. Basically, if a team in the premier tier has a lower winning percentage than the highest team in the lower league after four years, then the two teams would switch places til the following cycle. So a team like Charlotte or Sacramento would switch out with two of the teams in the lower bracket. This would prevent tanking as well as keep the quality of play at a high level.So here's how the premier league would look:EASTERN CONFERENCEATLANTICWashington WizardsMiami HeatNew York KnicksBrooklyn NetsBoston CelticsOrlando MagicPhiladelphia 76ersCENTRALMilwaukee BucksAtlanta HawksCleveland CavaliersChicago BullsDetroit PistonsIndiana PacersToronto RaptorsWESTERN CONFERENCEMIDWESTHouston RocketsMinnesota TimberwolvesNew Orleans Captains (personal favorite for new name)San Antonio SpursDallas MavericksMemphis GrizzliesOklahoma City Thunder (switched from Pacific with Utah)PACIFICPhoenix SunsLos Angeles ClippersUtah Jazz (switched from Midwest with OKC)San Francisco WarriorsLos Angeles LakersPortland TrailblazersDenver NuggetsNow under this scenario, Charlotte and Sacramento have been relegated to the new Developmental League, which I'll dub the Pro League. This would be the breeding ground for other markets that haven't had an NBA team; basically they'd be fighting for the right to join the Premier League.WESTERN CONFERENCESacramento KingsSeattle SupersonicsSan Diego Missions San Jose DigitsAlbuquerque CoyotesKansas City RidersLas Vegas LightsMexico City Eagles/Ciudad de México ÁguilasEASTERN CONFERENCEBaltimore MonumentsJacksonville SnappersCharlotte BobcatsCincinnati GladiatorsNew Jersey ElitesKentucky ColonelsProvidence JacketsBirmingham RebelsSo, with this setup, let's say that over the next four years Toronto and San Francisco bottom out in the Premier League and the New Jersey Elites and the revived Seattle Supersonics do the best in their respective conference in the Pro League. The teams would switch, putting New Jersey in Toronto's place and Seattle in San Francisco's place.Fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Here's my idea for the NBA...essentially convert it to a two-tier league, with the regular league shrunk down to 28 and a 16-team lower-tier league. Basically, if a team in the premier tier has a lower winning percentage than the highest team in the lower league after four years, then the two teams would switch places til the following cycle. So a team like Charlotte or Sacramento would switch out with two of the teams in the lower bracket. This would prevent tanking as well as keep the quality of play at a high level.So here's how the premier league would look:EASTERN CONFERENCEATLANTICWashington WizardsMiami HeatNew York KnicksBrooklyn NetsBoston CelticsOrlando MagicPhiladelphia 76ersCENTRALMilwaukee BucksAtlanta HawksCleveland CavaliersChicago BullsDetroit PistonsIndiana PacersToronto RaptorsWESTERN CONFERENCEMIDWESTHouston RocketsDenver NuggetsNew Orleans Captains (personal favorite for new name)San Antonio SpursDallas MavericksMemphis Grizzlies (switched with Minnesota)Oklahoma City Thunder (switched from Pacific with Utah)PACIFICPhoenix SunsLos Angeles ClippersUtah Jazz (switched from Midwest with OKC)San Francisco WarriorsLos Angeles LakersPortland TrailblazersMinnesota Timberwolves (switched with Memphis)Now under this scenario, Charlotte and Sacramento have been relegated to the new Developmental League, which I'll dub the Pro League. This would be the breeding ground for other markets that haven't had an NBA team; basically they'd be fighting for the right to join the Premier League.WESTERN CONFERENCESacramento KingsSeattle SupersonicsSan Diego Missions San Jose DigitsAlbuquerque CoyotesKansas City RidersLas Vegas LightsMexico City Eagles/Ciudad de México ÁguilasEASTERN CONFERENCEBaltimore MonumentsJacksonville SnappersCharlotte BobcatsCincinnati GladiatorsNew Jersey ElitesKentucky ColonelsProvidence JacketsBirmingham RebelsSo, with this setup, let's say that over the next four years Toronto and San Francisco bottom out in the Premier League and the New Jersey Elites and the revived Seattle Supersonics do the best in their respective conference in the Pro League. The teams would switch, putting New Jersey in Toronto's place and Seattle in San Francisco's place.So Albuquerque, Jacksonville, Providence, Birmingham and Mexico City get a team and St. Louis, a 3-sport major league city with an NBA-ready arena, doesn't? I'm not advocating they actually get an NBA team, but it just goes to show the level of quality of the selected cities in this concept. This all, of course, overlooking the obvious that a European style tier system wouldn't work over here, nor is one truly wanted. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Zephyr III Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well, true, likely never going to happen but it would make competition in the bottom of the league compelling in its own right. To be fair, some of those teams I had to kinda stretch in their marketability.Upon reflection, 16 teams would be WAY too much. Just taking it down to 12 might make it more efficient since it'd be a 17% changeover as opposed to a 8% change.PRO LEAGUEWESTERNSeattle SupersonicsSacramento KingsSt. Louis ArchersSan Diego MissionsCiudad de México ÁguilasAlbuquerque CoyotesEASTERNCharlotte BobcatsBaltimore MonumentsNew Jersey KnightsKentucky ColonelsAlabama RebelsProvidence Jackets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Radical NHL realignment proposal (assuming all current teams stay put for now):NATIONAL CONFERENCEEast: Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, NY Rangers, OttawaCentral: Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, St. Louis, TorontoWest: Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Vancouver, WinnipegAMERICAN CONFERENCEEast: New Jersey, NY Islanders, Florida, Philadelphia, WashingtonCentral: Columbus, Carolina, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Tampa BayWest: Anaheim, Dallas, Los Angeles, San Jose, PhoenixRegular-season format: Reduced from 82 back to 80 gamesGames 1-58: Two games (one home + one away) vs. all other teams in leagueGames 59-80: One game vs. all other teams in same conference (each matchup alternates home teams each year), plus two additional games (one home + 1 away) vs. each division rivalIn games 59-80, division rivals that are set to play twice in the same city may schedule those games back-to-back (this is to minimize travel)Points:2 points for a regulation win1 point for an OT/shootout win0 points for a loss of any kindPlayoff format: Similar to the current format, with one tweak: The top at-large team may be seeded #2 or #3 if it finishes with more points than the second- and/or third-ranked division winners in its conference.Other comments:The general concept is to put the traditional markets, particularly the Canadian and Original Six teams, in one conference and newer markets in the other, then divvying up the remaining pre-'90s expansion teams to fill out the divisions.If an American Conference team (all U.S.-based) moves to a Canadian market, they are to be swapped with one of the U.S.-based non-Original-Six teams in the National Conference. All other divisional moves will be handled on a case-by-case basis.Generally I have tried to set the divisions so that they each span no more than two time zones, for travel and TV purposes. Unfortunately there aren't enough teams in the Mountain and Pacific Time Zones to make that possible for the West divisions. In the National West, I was at least able to partially compensate travel-wise by including Winnipeg with the western Canadian teams to minimize border crossings.Yes, the National Central is a Norris Division reunion. The National West is also an 80% Smythe reunion. It could have been made a full reunion by swapping the Avs and Kings (which would also give SoCal a presence in both conferences), but that also would make for long Kings road trips just to face their division rivals.You know how the Blue Jackets nickname is a Civil War reference to the Union army? Notice that I have them in the same division as several teams from former Confederate states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 NBA in 2017-2018EASTERN CONFERENCEAtlanticBoston Brooklyn New York PhiladelphiaToronto CentralChicago ClevelandDetroit IndianaMinnesotaSoutheastAtlantaCharlotteMiamiOrlandoWashingtonWESTERN CONFERENCEMidwestDenverKansas CityOklahoma CityPhoenixUtahSouthwestDallasHoustonNew OrleansMemphisSan AntonioPacificL.A. ClippersL.A. LakersPortlandSan FranciscoSeattleFranchise shifts:Milwaukee to Kansas CitySacramento to SeattleGolden State (Oakland) to San Francisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 In this nightmare scenario, the NBA lets the Kings move to Anaheim. All hell breaks loose with teams moving to larger markets left and right.Pacific DivisionVancouver PacersPhoenix SunsSeattle BucksDenver NuggetsPortland Trailblazers CaliforniaLA LakersLA ClippersAnaheim RoyalsSan Francisco WarriorsSan Jose WolvesSouthwestHouston RocketsSan Antonio SpursDallas MavericksNew Orleans HornetsOklahoma City ThunderCentralChicago BullsChicago GrizzliesDetroit PistonsColumbus CavaliersToronto RaptorsAtlanticBoston CelticsNew Jersey BobcatsNew York KnicksBrooklyn NetsMontreal Jazz ...le Jazz become France's team, playing two home games in Paris each year SoutheastWashington WizardsMiami HeatOrlando MagicAtlanta HawksPhiladelphia 76ers Quote "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Can somebody provide me a map of the Florida State League and California League? It would benefit my realignment plans if I get some geographic bearings on the teams' current locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Can somebody provide me a map of the Florida State League and California League? It would benefit my realignment plans if I get some geographic bearings on the teams' current locations.I will do you one better. This link should be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Aware Eagle Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Here's what I've come up with for NBA realignment. I wanted Atlanta to be in the same division as Memphis and New Orleans. I think this set-up makes quite a bit of geographic sense. But the playoff logistics are yet to be figured out. This is a pointless thread, after all.BIRD DIVISIONNYKBKLBOSTORWASPHIJORDAN DIVISIONMILCHIMINDETCLEINDWILKINS DIVISIONATLCHAMIAORLMEMNOROLAJUWAN DIVISIONHOUSASDALPHXDENOKCJOHNSON DIVISIONPORSACUTALALLACGSWEdit: Can anyone come up with a better name for the Wilkins division? There aren't any huge names coming out of that division's teams that I can think of. Quote Yes, I root for teams all over the place. And I apparently favor birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Edit: Can anyone come up with a better name for the Wilkins division? There aren't any huge names coming out of that division's teams that I can think of.O'Neal Division or Maravich Division (Yes, I know he played for the Jazz, but the New Orleans connection is there) Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 ^^^ James Division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysox Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 US/Canada soccer pyramid with relegation. Bottom 3 go down, top 3 go up. There could probably be a 3rd tier too. I just feel like there isn't that much connection and under the MLS it's all just sort of a cluster . Plus, as tonight shows, teams can compete.MLSChivas USAFC DallasReal Salt LakeRed Bull NYSporting KCChicago FireColorado RapidsColumbus CrewDC UnitedHouston DynamoLA GalaxyMontreal ImpactNew England RevolutionPhiladelphia UnionPortland TimbersSan Jose EarthquakesSeattle SoundersToronto FCVancouver WhitecapsNew York CosmosMLS 2Atlanta SilverbacksCarolina RailhawksFC EdmontonFt Lauderdale StrikersMinnesota StarsPuerto Rico IslandersSan Antonio StrikersTampa Bay RowdiesAntigua BarracudasCharleston BatteryCharlotte EaglesDayton Dutch LionsHarrisburg City IslandersLos Angeles BluesOrlando CityPittsburgh RiverhoundsRichmond KickersRochester RhinosWilmington HammerheadsDetroit City FC Quote @MichaelDanger19 | Dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 In this scenario, would Chivas USA relocate elsewhere, say San Diego, or will the club stay at the HDC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I didn't know that Antigua was a part of Canada or the States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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