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19 minutes ago, chcarlson23 said:

What do you mean by this? The Twins literally play in one of the nicest and affluent neighborhoods in Minneapolis, at the corner of North Loop. I have no idea what you mean by urban hellscape. I mean sure, there are not great parts of Minneapolis, but geez

I think he was being sarcastic...

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10 minutes ago, B-Rich said:

I think he was being sarcastic...

Welp that’s valid. Sarcasm is hard on the internet ahahaha

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27 minutes ago, chcarlson23 said:

Welp that’s valid. Sarcasm is hard on the internet ahahaha

I was being sarcastic; I included the Twins because it's kinda fashionable...a uh, "news" organization even made a film called "the fall of Minneapolis." But...

...the opinions probably exist in every city.

41 minutes ago, McCall said:

Yeah, but that's ALL Oakland has going for it. At least the other cities have additional stuff to do in between car jackings and shoplifting flash mobs. Y'know, assuming you're out of the hospital or morgue in time to enjoy them.

 

If you plan a trip to a ballgame from the suburbs in any city, I'd bet you're a hundred more times more likely to get injured/killed in an automobile collision than at that hands of a criminal. I'm going to SF for a few days in May and will be safer on the BART to the A's game than I would driving from my in-laws place in ex-urban Atlanta to the Ballpark at Cobb County Interchange. 

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8 hours ago, McCall said:

Yeah, but that's ALL Oakland has going for it. At least the other cities have additional stuff to do in between car jackings and shoplifting flash mobs. Y'know, assuming you're out of the hospital or morgue in time to enjoy them.


Oakland has some real nasty parts, but it’s still just like any other major American city. I’ve been to Oakland like six times in the past year and it was fine. Fun, actually. Good food scene there if you know where to look, and just as much to do as any other city (probably more weed stores, though). Theres just certain parts of the city you know not to :censored: around in, especially after dark. That’s increasingly true now, but it’s always been the case with Oakland. 
 

My dad is from St. Louis and grew up in the government housing projects in an area that was bad when he was young (1940s and 50s), and only got MUCH worse after he left. He took me to St. Louis once as a kid, and even being that young I knew not to ask to see his old neighborhood because you just kinda knew it wasn’t a great spot to be lingering around in. 
 

Philly has Kensington, Chicago has parts of the south side, LA has East LA, etc. It doesn’t mean those cities are devoid of any value 😂

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Plus bonus rendering of the current Comiskey converted to soccer for the Fire and/or Red Stars. Points for creativity. I don't know that baseball-to-soccer conversions ever quite work. Though this looks better than Atlanta and Arlington if they actually manage to totally demo left-center field.

 

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10 minutes ago, Digby said:

Plus bonus rendering of the current Comiskey converted to soccer for the Fire and/or Red Stars. Points for creativity, I guess, even though baseball-to-soccer conversions don't really work. 

 

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Portland did a good job converting baseball to soccer.

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Just now, TBGKon said:

Portland did a good job converting baseball to soccer.

 

 

Portland doesn't count in my book, since it was originally a football field and race track way back in the day. Baseball was the odd fit, if anything -- a literal parking lot of foul territory, and outfield grandstand angles that make Fenway look reasonable by comparison.

 

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Huntsville was already an interesting structure to begin with, as pre-renovation it was already used for football too.  The bones for soccer were there, they just closed in the outfield with new seats.

 

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18 hours ago, FiddySicks said:


Oakland has some real nasty parts, but it’s still just like any other major American city. I’ve been to Oakland like six times in the past year and it was fine. Fun, actually. Good food scene there if you know where to look, and just as much to do as any other city (probably more weed stores, though). Theres just certain parts of the city you know not to :censored: around in, especially after dark. That’s increasingly true now, but it’s always been the case with Oakland. 

 

Hasn't San Francisco become Poop City? No one's saying the Giants should move. Bay Area income inequality is really something else.

 

I'm not really wowed by the Sox stadium. I'm a traditionalist, and the Sox have played on 35th Street for 115 years. I don't really want that to change. 

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3 minutes ago, BottomlessPitt said:

Hey, would a new Bears stadium fit where New Comiskey now sits or do the Bears just want to be the suburbs? 

 

Bears are considering a stadium across the street from Soldier Field.  

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6 hours ago, BottomlessPitt said:

Hey, would a new Bears stadium fit where New Comiskey now sits or do the Bears just want to be the suburbs? 

There's so much surface parking around Comiskey that anything could fit there, but the Bears in Bridgeport and the Sox downtown is like some Gift of the Magi deal. 

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6 hours ago, GDAWG said:

 

Bears are considering a stadium across the street from Soldier Field.  

Isn't the big knock against the Soldier Field area the lack of 'mixed-use development' they all love so much now? That and parking is minimal?

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38 minutes ago, Sykotyk said:

Isn't the big knock against the Soldier Field area the lack of 'mixed-use development' they all love so much now? That and parking is minimal?

 

1. Too hard to drive to from the suburbs

2. Too hard to walk to from train stations

3. The Blacks

4. Not enough parking

 

1 will be a problem anywhere on the map; anything that requires tens of thousands of people to drive in and out of a spot at the same time is going to be a giant pain, especially in an area as sprawling as Chicagoland. 2, not much anyone can do about that one; the rail system has been all but set in stone since the 19th century. 3, it's really more the idea of them than anything given the atomized nature of driving to the game. 4, I dunno, take a shuttle bus and forgo eating potato salad in a parking lot, you rubes. 

 

Arlington Heights would solve 3 and 4, but make 1 considerably worse, and 2 is irrelevant to most people, and the whole development appears to be a moot point since the Bears tried to big-dick Cook County and lost badly. Roosevelt/Clark where the Sox want to go (who also don't seem to have the money) would fix 2, but the rest would be about the same. There's just no perfect place to put a stadium here that I can think of, but at least we know the lakefront works well enough.

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10 hours ago, The_Admiral said:

 

1. Too hard to drive to from the suburbs

2. Too hard to walk to from train stations

3. The Blacks

4. Not enough parking

 

1 will be a problem anywhere on the map; anything that requires tens of thousands of people to drive in and out of a spot at the same time is going to be a giant pain, especially in an area as sprawling as Chicagoland. 2, not much anyone can do about that one; the rail system has been all but set in stone since the 19th century. 3, it's really more the idea of them than anything given the atomized nature of driving to the game. 4, I dunno, take a shuttle bus and forgo eating potato salad in a parking lot, you rubes. 

 

Arlington Heights would solve 3 and 4, but make 1 considerably worse, and 2 is irrelevant to most people, and the whole development appears to be a moot point since the Bears tried to big-dick Cook County and lost badly. Roosevelt/Clark where the Sox want to go (who also don't seem to have the money) would fix 2, but the rest would be about the same. There's just no perfect place to put a stadium here that I can think of, but at least we know the lakefront works well enough.

But the perception among the suburban fanbase would be that it's better. I could see that helping the suburban cause.

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