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On 8/10/2024 at 3:24 PM, TrueYankee26 said:

I have not heard the rumors of Camden trying to lure the Sixers in a while.

 

It's constantly there in the background.  Especially since they've already given them so much to get them to move their entire non-game day operation there.  It'll never happen, as they really wanted their arena on the West Bank of the river and not the East, and the idea of taking a ferry or PATCO to a game is very unappealing and I'd not want to go, and for the car-users, paying an increasing toll to get back into PA isn't attractive either.

 

 

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Do they dare bring back Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire to any kind of closing ceremony?  AFAIK, McGwire has laid pretty low since his playing days and subsequent disgrace, but Canseco seems like a total train wreck even to this day.

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Do they dare bring back Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire to any kind of closing ceremony?  AFAIK, McGwire has laid pretty low since his playing days and subsequent disgrace, but Canseco seems like a total train wreck even to this day.

McGwire was a hitting and bench coach for many years with the Cardinals, Dodgers and Padres.

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Do they dare bring back Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire to any kind of closing ceremony?  AFAIK, McGwire has laid pretty low since his playing days and subsequent disgrace, but Canseco seems like a total train wreck even to this day.

McGwire was a hitting or bench coach for the Cards, Dodgers, and Padres from 2010-2018.  Not really laying low.

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4 minutes ago, McCall said:

McGwire was a hitting and bench coach for many years with the Cardinals, Dodgers and Padres.

 

3 minutes ago, TBGKon said:

McGwire was a hitting or bench coach for the Cards, Dodgers, and Padres from 2010-2018.  Not really laying low.

 

I meant staying out of the news and staying away from any controversies.  Not that I follow him, but I haven't heard anything other than the initial controversy of him getting into coaching, which seems to have been going well.

 

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1 hour ago, BBTV said:

Do they dare bring back Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire to any kind of closing ceremony?  . . . Canseco seems like a total train wreck even to this day.

 

The A's have had Canseco involved. They gave away a dual bobblehead, showing him hitting and stealing a base.  And he was interviewed by Brodie Brazil and Dave Stewart.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

The A's have had Canseco involved. They gave away a dual bobblehead, showing him hitting and stealing a base.  And he was interviewed by Brodie Brazil and Dave Stewart.

 

 

 

Wow - cannot believe he's 60.  Obviously it makes sense given I have all his rookie cards from '86, but it's still a little jarring.

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Sweet. Now Roots and Sac Republic will both have similar stadium situations. Playing in public facilities born of the late 1960s that nobody else really wants to use anymore. It honestly makes a lot of sense. 

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I made some remark the other day about how the Sox got their dicks smacked for demanding a new stadium and pretty much backed off ever since. Well, apparently I reverse-manifested, because they stuck a sandlot at Roosevelt/Clark to demonstrate how awesome a new ballpark would be there if someone else paid for it:

 

The temporary baseball diamond at The 78.

 

I'm just thinking of how much sense a football/soccer stadium would make instead.

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So the Sixers saga has taken a new interesting turn:

NJ has now guaranteed $400M to move them across the river to a "world class sports and entertainment arena".

 

Additionally, Comcast Spectator has just swooped in with a plan to turn the area where the Sixers want their arena into a bio-medical research center which could open in 2028 - 3 years before the Sixers project would be complete.  Apparently their proposal (which I don't think was made public) was so detailed, it had the Pantone values of the paint.

 

So basically the mayor and council have to decide whether to let the Sixers build a stadium in the middle of the city, let the Flyers build a bio-medical research facility, or do nothing and let it be a dilapidated blight on the city like it's been for most of my life.

 

Meanwhile, the Sixers can take New Jersey's money (which they've already done once when they moved their headquarters and practice facility there) and leave the city altogether.  I don't think they'll do that... but I genuinely have no idea how this ends, just that it should end by EOY.

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lol, "meanwhile at the Comcast-Spectacor Biomedical Research Facility, doctors announced the discovery of a genetic marker that predicts the likelihood of your child being born Gritty" sounds like a line from a Mark Leyner novel

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I don't know why the labels aren't showing, but:

Blue outline  on the left = Sixers proposed arena

Red outlined rectangle =  Flyers "Gritty Genealogical Research Lab" that they say they can build super duper fast

solid-blue square on the top right = NJ's proposal for the new Sixers arena

small-black square on bottom left = current Sixers headquarters after NJ got on their knees for Josh Harris

 

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Do the 76ers already have the same sweetheart deal that the Celtics have at the Garden? I think they've been getting free rent in exchange for not building a competing arena down the street. Seems like that's a better play than the mutually assured destruction of building a new place over the river.

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10 minutes ago, The_Admiral said:

Do the 76ers already have the same sweetheart deal that the Celtics have at the Garden? I think they've been getting free rent in exchange for not building a competing arena down the street. Seems like that's a better play than the mutually assured destruction of building a new place over the river.

 

I don't know the details, but I don't think it's a "sweetheart" deal at all.  The Flyers are so desperate to keep them there that they're offering them an equity stake in the FKA Wells Fargo Center, though the details of that aren't clear either.

 

Harris wants his own place.  I don't think he has any interest in sharing something that he can't have 100% control of, and despite any equity concessions, the Sixers will always be second (or third or fourth) fiddle in that place.

 

I  don't think NJ is a realistic scenario for him.  In general, it's very realistic - hell, they were slated to move there until Ed Snider bought them and dragged them into the Corestates Center - I just don't think that's what Harris wants.  I'd say it's great leverage to use against the city, but he has made exactly zero friends here, so I don't think the decision makers will factor that in at all.

 

This is a very complicated situation, given that you now have a city that doesn't really want them, a state that wants them but isn't wanted back, 90% of neighborhood groups against the plan, Comcast actively funding the protests and now trying to yoink the land out from under them, and now the bicycle community and transit advocates are getting involved.

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4 minutes ago, BBTV said:

This is a very complicated situation, given that you now have a city that doesn't really want them, a state that wants them but isn't wanted back, 90% of neighborhood groups against the plan, Comcast actively funding the protests and now trying to yoink the land out from under them, and now the bicycle community and transit advocates are getting involved.

Don't forget about Delaware's stunt, too, so you got two states doing this!

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If Philadelphia is indeed more or less a company town for Comcast as I suspect it is, then "we're going out of our way for you and also we want that land for something else" should pretty much seal the deal, with "this is culturally insensitive to the Chinese" putting the bow on it.

 

I don't see Camden happening. Having practices in Camden and getting people to drive to Camden are two very different things. And I don't see downtown happening either. I'm not a fan of the Sports Containment Zone, but a Sixers-only arena competing with the extant Flyers arena isn't a better alternative.

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