Arizona Cardinals new uniform extravaganza

[Silver_Star]

10 hours ago, pepis21 said:

Overall is an upgrade yet downgrade in some way. First of all when teams or nike or whoever designed those learn that big ass wordmarks don't works in NFL? It's not NCAA ffs! Second those wordmarks inside stripes are really necessary? Third, home uniform is so boring, they could at least put stripes like on 1994 to put some life into it.

Good thing is they kept numbers font and not went with some crazy custom one. Stripes are nice too although silver stripe on white is almost invisible. I hope they gonna mixing pants instead of force monochrome look.

The classic home reds never has stripes. It was a plain big red jersey.

[Bruhammydude]

I did point out in my overview post I made that TruColor had his doubts about his source of information, and this is all pretty meaningless anyway since we now know the real uniforms. Ultimately I'm not mad at him, but I'm disappointed because we were getting so much information to run with from a reputable source, and none of it was true. In the future I need to not waste my time with anything associated with Reddit or any unofficial source. I wonder what those mockups could've been, though.

 

Still appreciate ya, @TruColor. 

[AdobeDesignBG]

https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/preschool-arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-nike-cardinal-game-jersey/t-36150108+p-91887744361986+z-8-3287375501?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r7c2:po-23

 

The wordmark is smaller. These aren't horrible

[walkerws]

3 minutes ago, AdobeDesignBG said:

https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/preschool-arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-nike-cardinal-game-jersey/t-36150108+p-91887744361986+z-8-3287375501?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r7c2:po-23

 

The wordmark is smaller. These aren't horrible

It's the template and it looks like they shrunk it so it won't stretch into the armpit.  They still could have done this with the new template. I think they went big because it's so plain. 

[SportsFan12]

50 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said:

Mildly relevant:

Washington Commanders uniform combinations 2022:

Mono White/Burgundy (including socks): 3

Mono White/Burgundy (contrasting socks): 1

Contrasting Jersey/Pants: 10

I'm not sure how relevant this is. The Cardinals specifically referred to each of these monochrome suits as the home, road, and alternate looks and specified the colors of each uniform element:

The Commanders only modeled monochrome as well, but they also kept plain pants for all colors, whereas Arizona has red pants without a stripe, but white ones with a stripe. This shouldn't matter, but I fear that this was on purpose and they will use it as an excuse to stick with the same three combos.

[MJD7]

7 minutes ago, j'villejags said:

He absolutely nailed it. I’m guessing it was less of a prediction and more that he actually saw them and mocked up the design. Or had someone with intimate knowledge telling him how to draw it up. 

He told me as much on Twitter:

 

[AdobeDesignBG]

These would have been sooooo much better if they replaced the middle stripe with the state flag. Can anyone mock that up?

[Carolingian Steamroller]

That looks pretty good.

[HOOVER]

12 minutes ago, j'villejags said:

He absolutely nailed it. I’m guessing it was less of a prediction and more that he actually saw them and mocked up the design. Or had someone with intimate knowledge telling him how to draw it up. 

Considering he mocked up the actual uniforms unveiled last night, it's a given that this account was given access ahead of time, or someone leaked to him, since he was apparently pushing for new uniforms for so long.  

Definitely didn't just "guess" right.

[HOOVER]

10 minutes ago, AdobeDesignBG said:

https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/preschool-arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-nike-cardinal-game-jersey/t-36150108+p-91887744361986+z-8-3287375501?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r7c2:po-23

 

The wordmark is smaller. These aren't horrible

That's also a preschool jersey.

 

It's big on the replica:  https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/mens-arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-nike-cardinal-vapor-fuse-limited-jersey/t-25264586+p-2733136519612+z-9-3829348406?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r0c1:po-1

[Lumbergh]

4 hours ago, bowld said:

These honestly dont look too bad. In fact, I really like them when paired like this. Modern take on the Tillman era Cards

 

Totally agree. Nothing crazy but it's not hard to connect these to the Tillman era. Overall, huge upgrade IMO.

[WSU151]

5 hours ago, Bathysphere said:

With all due respect, this all utterly perplexes me. Youre a connected guy who has provided invaluable information, whether archival or new and noteworthy, to these boards across decades. Youre so deep in that, of course, you already saw the actual helmet that was to be unveiled: white with silver speckle, a silver face mask and the airbrushed normal Cardinal logo from the alt helmets in the normal Cardinal logo color scheme. All of which is very plausible based on what they’ve done before and recently. That’s just the TruColor power at work.

 

Then, along comes Some Guy From Reddit, or, in this case, u/ISniffButts50. No credentials, no established credibility, hardly so much as an internet footprint whatsoever; just a guy who likes smelling rears and made a post telling Cardinals fans to wait to buy jerseys. He then goes on to describe then render the most schizo idea possible for the Cardinals to try to revive their tired brand: change their 100 year old color scheme that theyre literally named after to maroon, orange, and silver. Basically a rejected Virginia Tech pro combat alt from 2009. Probably the dumbest idea of all time.
 

It was enough for you to go investigate, and somehow in this interaction, he relayed to you enough specific information for you to feel confident coming back here and saying “Yeah this might happen.” Even though youve already seen the real helmet which completely contradicted the entirety of what u/ISniffButts50 was telling you, yet those hex codes and “regional” color names that he gave were enough to make you consider that they could possibly put that helmet with a red and yellow cardinal on it with uniforms that look like that. That was all we knew before that he gave you, hex codes that anyone can look up to specific colors and color names that anyone with a little sly creativity could come up with. The gradient pants is news to us, which drives the idea even further into stupid hole.

 

Which is just the thing: the whole idea was just so incomprehensibly stupid that I refused to believe for a second that an NFL team would destroy their brand on such a caliber. Nike has done some weird things, but there are some things that if you’ve been paying attention, you know they won’t mess with till the end of time. The Cardinals are a red and white team and they proved that final last night by committing to that for at least another five goes round the sun. It was absolutely surreal to just watch 100+ pages of pure discussion fly by assuming that the Cardinals were really going to do that, just because of your credibility when you took the plunge and semi-verified them.
 

What’s truly crazy is that I’ve only posted here for ten years, and already I’ve seen a million incidents, like @IceCap said, of Some Guy On Reddit turning out to be full of complete horse:censored:. It just feels like it should’ve been a no brainer to dismiss him swiftly and completely for no other reason than that his credential was Reddit. I’ve felt that this entire time, yet felt like I was going insane reading page after page of maroon and orange fantasies when it was so obviously false. Just exhausting to even think about engaging with from what ultimately turned out to be the sane standpoint. Its like nobody’s been paying attention to how NFL teams actually carry their brands; all they can do is say “Nike bad” as though that justifies that they could actually do something as bad as what u/ISniffButts50 proposed. Guess what: they haven’t to date and they probably never will.

 

I really don’t want to grill you for something like this since the difference in our legacies here speaks for itself. I just wanted to provide some context to this being probably the most bizarre two weeks I’ve experienced on here, and as a cautionary tale about the responsibility that comes with credibility. There is a lot that could have been avoided here by simply never ever believing “leaks” from Reddit.

 

This is a totally unhinged and bizarre post.

 

The first ISniffButts50 post about the helmet (your first linked post) turned out to be true...the helmet indeed is a white and silver version of the black helmet, and silver did feature more prominently in the new set.  If I was Tru, and saw that that particular description matched what I'd seen, I'd believe other posts from the same guy.

 

The fact that you think people had low reading comprehension because we put out trust in a guy who has been incredibly reliable is just asinine. Tru had doubts...but he also said everything he was told was believable.  He had details that seemed far more credible than the average leak. We believed him. We were tricked by a reddit user. 

 

In 2005 I would have thought a Cardinals uniform with piping and random shapes and cardinal shoulder yokes would have seemed completely schizo...yet that's actually what they went with.  We really didn't know what path the team was going to take...I mean there are hundreds of concepts of "What the team should do" and none of them were close. 

 

Were there things that reduced credibility along the way? Sure...the bad claim about the hats, the guy suddenly disappearing after the  bad soft reveal...but I (and maybe others) was pretty sure if the team  wasn't changing to maroon and orange, then they were going with cardinal, copper, navy, (more) yellow and/or sand...which is still way off and nothing close to what was revealed.

 

I don't fault Tru at all...and the 20/20 hindsight in this particular post filled with "all of you should have known better" is just laughable

 

 

[CaliforniaGlowin]

that false reddit dude is probably laughing his head off over what he stirred up 

[AdobeDesignBG]

https://imgur.com/8sdHyUu

[AdobeDesignBG]

1 minute ago, AdobeDesignBG said:

https://imgur.com/8sdHyUu

How do I upload a normal image on here?

[j'villejags]

Just now, AdobeDesignBG said:

How do I upload a normal image on here?

On imgur, I right click and copy the image address to paste here.

 

[AdobeDesignBG]

1 minute ago, j'villejags said:

On imgur, I right click and copy the image address to paste here.

 

I mean my stripes arent bad are they

[eRay]

In less than 24 hours I've totally swung around on these, but only based on the mockups with white/red/white and red/white/red. Without those existing, the sets they released are still played out. When the non-monochrome is shown I actually really like the look.

[IceCap]

50 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

This is just saying you want the pre-05 uniforms with extra steps

Not exactly but close, yes

 

 

[DCarp1231]

18 minutes ago, WSU151 said:

 

This is a totally unhinged and bizarre post.

 

The first ISniffButts50 post about the helmet (your first linked post) turned out to be true...the helmet indeed is a white and silver version of the black helmet, and silver did feature more prominently in the new set.  If I was Tru, and saw that that particular description matched what I'd seen, I'd believe other posts from the same guy.

 

The fact that you think people had low reading comprehension because we put out trust in a guy who has been incredibly reliable is just asinine. Tru had doubts...but he also said everything he was told was believable.  He had details that seemed far more credible than the average leak. We believed him. We were tricked.

 

In 2005 I would have thought a Cardinals uniform with piping and random shapes and cardinal shoulder yokes would have seemed completely schizo...yet that's actually what they went with.  We really didn't know what path the team was going to take...I mean there are hundreds of concepts of "What the team should do" and none of them were close. 

 

I don't fault Tru at all...and the 20/20 hindsight in this particular post filled with "all of you should have known better" is just laughable