College Football Bowl Thread

[infrared41]

Oh and the Big 10 did what? Oh yeah that's right, their only win was over an average South Carolina team. The fact of the matter is and you can't handle it because you are a Big 10 honk, is that the rest of the nation has passed the Big 10 by and the Big 10 doesn't matter anymore. Oh forgive me, if the Big 10 doesn't matter and is a weak conference that kills your pride because your little team there plays in a weak conference and is irrelevant. Admit it, the Big 10 is irrelevant. Again, your big win is.... oh yeah Iowa over an average South Carolina. If Penn State is your best, you don't belong. Do I think that Buffalo would be SC? No, but at least they'd show up. Oh at least the Big 10 are a bunch of losers that people have heard of. The fact of the matter your argument about this school losing to that school kills your argument. You use Notre Dame... um who beat Michigan and Purdue. I'm not just saying comparing USC to other teams, I'm comparing the league as a whole. Of course you can't admit that Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State are average at best programs. Sure you have Ohio State and then...? Again, they are an overrated conference. How do you know, look at the bowl record. The Big 10 just doesn't belong. Seriously, your argument is Iowa beating Steve Spurrier and South Carolina? Really? That's a horrible program. Spurrier can't even stick with one quarterback. If this was the mid '90's and he was at Florida, you might have an argument, but South Carolina? If you want to say it's Ohio State and the rest of the conference, fine. When Ohio State comes out here and get pounded by SC and then Penn State who again was suppose to be the best (?) and then you go 1 for 5 or whatever in the bowls, please tell me why the Big 10 is relevant? When it comes to stepping up for big games, we know the Big 10 won't. You're just like the Raider fans, you think you're relevant and think it's 1970, it's not. The time has passed you by, and it's so sad to see that you can't deal with it.

You're a -ing idiot who is more interested in arguing than anything else. The Big Ten is far from an elite BCS conference right now but top to bottom the Big Ten is still far superior to any of the mid-majors you mentioned.

I'm done wasting my time with you. You aren't posting here to because you want to contribute anything. You're just looking for a flame war. My guess is your grades were not good enough to attend a Big Ten school. You were rejected by a real college and got stuck attending the 13th grade at some mid-major school so now you spend all your time taking out your frustrations by bashing the conference. Either that or you just take this stuff far too seriously. Either way you're not bringing anything to the table. Why don't you go find some AOL chat room where you can share your brilliance with intellectual equals.

[rams80]

The Orange Bowl doesn't look sold out, lots of seats covered in the upper reaches...

I sense this is happening a lot this year....and I sense the combination of the economic down turn and a week-to-two-week stretch of erratic, yet awful weather throughout most of the Northern United States are contributing factors.

(must spin the empty seats in the Gator Bowl somehow)

[infrared41]

The Orange Bowl doesn't look sold out, lots of seats covered in the upper reaches...

I sense this is happening a lot this year....and I sense the combination of the economic down turn and a week-to-two-week stretch of erratic, yet awful weather throughout most of the Northern United States are contributing factors.

(must spin the empty seats in the Gator Bowl somehow)

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

[HedleyLamarr]

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

Because Phoenix knows they'll be getting a boatload of money from Texas and OSU and couldn't turn that down.

And we wouldn't have the pleasure of putting down OSU if they're playing a team that's their equal....

[FiddySicks]

That Rose Bowl game was pretty lopsided, but it got pretty interesting in the 4th when Pete Carrol decided to let off the gas. He better watch out or that crap is gonna come back to bite the Trojans in the ass again like it did vs Texas. AWESOME atmosphere though, nearly 94,000 strong. Great day overall, and SC won!!! WOO!!!

The stands were easily 1/3 PSU fans. All that white is all Penn State. I've never seen a team that travels as well as they do

Thats where Penn State started, and finished during most of the first half

But they started driving when SC let up

WOW that passing number was up there

This one kinda sdays it all

[oddball]

I'm a an idiot because I'm saying give the mid-majors a chance? In 2005 the Big 10 is 1-5, and over the last 10 years in the BCS the Big 10 is 8-10 with Ohio State being 1-2 in the National Championship games. Oh and your beloved Ohio State is 5-5 over the past 10 years and 8-12 over the past 20 years. The record of Ohio State in bowl games is 18-21 and only 6-7 in the Rose Bowl. Basically, you're saying that I'm and idiot because I called the Big 10 average? It is. But I guess your blindness to the truth hurts that much. What's wrong with giving the mid-majors a shot? Are you scared of losing to them? What's your problem with giving them a chance? You sit there and blab about how the mid-majors can't compete with the big boys and yet did not Appy State go into the not-so Big House and defeat Michigan? Did LSU not almost lose to Troy and had to have a miracle comeback? Did not Alabama not lose to La-Monroe? Did not Boise State beat Oklahoma in a bowl game? What's your problem with giving mid-majors the same chance as everyone else? Are you going to tell me that Utah, Boise State, or even Buffalo couldn't beat that "great" South Carolina team that your pumping up as the only Big 10 win?

[infrared41]

I'm a an idiot because I'm saying give the mid-majors a chance? In 2005 the Big 10 is 1-5, and over the last 10 years in the BCS the Big 10 is 8-10 with Ohio State being 1-2 in the National Championship games. Oh and your beloved Ohio State is 5-5 over the past 10 years and 8-12 over the past 20 years. The record of Ohio State in bowl games is 18-21 and only 6-7 in the Rose Bowl. Basically, you're saying that I'm and idiot because I called the Big 10 average? It is. But I guess your blindness to the truth hurts that much. What's wrong with giving the mid-majors a shot? Are you scared of losing to them? What's your problem with giving them a chance? You sit there and blab about how the mid-majors can't compete with the big boys and yet did not Appy State go into the not-so Big House and defeat Michigan? Did LSU not almost lose to Troy and had to have a miracle comeback? Did not Alabama not lose to La-Monroe? Did not Boise State beat Oklahoma in a bowl game? What's your problem with giving mid-majors the same chance as everyone else? Are you going to tell me that Utah, Boise State, or even Buffalo couldn't beat that "great" South Carolina team that your pumping up as the only Big 10 win?

You're right. You're not an idiot. You're an idiot who sounds like a broken record. I never said that mid -majors shouldn't be given a chance. I also never said The Big Ten was great. All I said was that The Big Ten is still better than the mid-majors you claim should replace them in the BCS. The rest of your idiotic debate is taking place in your head.

[floydnimrod]

The Orange Bowl doesn't look sold out, lots of seats covered in the upper reaches...

I sense this is happening a lot this year....and I sense the combination of the economic down turn and a week-to-two-week stretch of erratic, yet awful weather throughout most of the Northern United States are contributing factors.

(must spin the empty seats in the Gator Bowl somehow)

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

There were more UC fans at this game than VT fans.

Many Bearcat fans (many more than 206. We could have as many fans as UOS but our "Recruit paycheck" budget isn't as big as the school in Columbus) said if not for the economy, they would be down there.

[rams80]

The Orange Bowl doesn't look sold out, lots of seats covered in the upper reaches...

I sense this is happening a lot this year....and I sense the combination of the economic down turn and a week-to-two-week stretch of erratic, yet awful weather throughout most of the Northern United States are contributing factors.

(must spin the empty seats in the Gator Bowl somehow)

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

There were more UC fans at this game than VT fans.

Many Bearcat fans (many more than 206) said if not for the economy, they would be down there.

It's your first trip to a major bowl ever! Who knows when you will come back to one! Fools!

Oh and congrats to the ACC for finally winning a BCS bowl game.

oddball, the mid-majors get their shot in the regular season. The reason they don't get into better Bowls is because Bowl assignments are dictated far more by fanbase size and willingness to travel than on field prowess. (Indeed, only the bids that go to Conference champions and the national championship game are dictated primarily by this prowess). Most of the Big Ten has large fanbases that are willing to travel to watch their team in bowls, and the rest are usually willing to go because bowl bids are so rare for them. Mid Majors cannot make the same claim.

[floydnimrod]

The Orange Bowl doesn't look sold out, lots of seats covered in the upper reaches...

I sense this is happening a lot this year....and I sense the combination of the economic down turn and a week-to-two-week stretch of erratic, yet awful weather throughout most of the Northern United States are contributing factors.

(must spin the empty seats in the Gator Bowl somehow)

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

There were more UC fans at this game than VT fans.

Many Bearcat fans (many more than 206) said if not for the economy, they would be down there.

It's your first trip to a major bowl ever! Who knows when you will come back to one! Fools!

Oh and congrats to the ACC for finally winning a BCS bowl game.

oddball, the mid-majors get their shot in the regular season. The reason they don't get into better Bowls is because Bowl assignments are dictated far more by fanbase size and willingness to travel than on field prowess. (Indeed, only the bids that go to Conference champions and the national championship game are dictated primarily by this prowess). Most of the Big Ten has large fanbases that are willing to travel to watch their team in bowls, and the rest are usually willing to go because bowl bids are so rare for them. Mid Majors cannot make the same claim.

Actually we will be back next year.

[infrared41]

The Orange Bowl doesn't look sold out, lots of seats covered in the upper reaches...

I sense this is happening a lot this year....and I sense the combination of the economic down turn and a week-to-two-week stretch of erratic, yet awful weather throughout most of the Northern United States are contributing factors.

(must spin the empty seats in the Gator Bowl somehow)

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

There were more UC fans at this game than VT fans.

Many Bearcat fans (many more than 206) said if not for the economy, they would be down there.

I was kidding. I have nothing against the Bearcats. Let's be serious here. We both know that when it comes to College Football fans in Ohio, the overwhelming majority of us are Buckeyes fans. I'm glad Cincy traveled as well as they did but you know The Buckeyes would have brought three times as many fans to Miami. I know that Cincinnati isn't crazy about Ohio State but that's about the only place in the state that isn't.

[TFoA]

Ole Miss is going to be good for a few years.

I'm scared.

[infrared41]

Ole Miss is going to be good for a few years.

I'm scared.

Don't be too concerned. Ole Miss is good but they're also playing against a Big XII team. Big XII team's can't play any type of defense. This game would be even more lopsided if Tech was up against one of the top tier SEC teams.

If the Big Ten is the most overrated conference in football then The Big XII is a close second. Actually, I think it's more like this. USC is the best team in the country. The good SEC teams are a whole lot better than everyone else, except USC. Then there is everyone else. Sure the Big XII has one some bowl games but who have they beaten? I wouldn't say any of their wins have come against upper tier opponents. That aside, at least the Big XII has won some bowl games. The same can't be said for The Big Ten.

[dfwabel]

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

Because Phoenix knows they'll be getting a boatload of money from Texas and OSU and couldn't turn that down.

And we wouldn't have the pleasure of putting down OSU if they're playing a team that's their equal....

I just came across this from USA Today.

Demand for Fiesta Bowl tour packages severly down

In metro Phoenix, hotels and resorts are pushing low rates and freebies to spur last-minute demand, with luxury Scottsdale resorts going for as little as $119 on Hotwire.com.

"The demand here is terrible," said Lisa Cisco, owner of Travel Partners in Dublin, Ohio, a travel agency that has been selling bowl packages since 1979.

Cisco said she has booked just 64 clients for a $1,649 package that includes a game ticket, round-trip airfare, four nights at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak, breakfast and more. Two years ago, she had 708 buyers travel to Arizona to see Ohio State play for the national championship in Glendale.

[infrared41]

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

Because Phoenix knows they'll be getting a boatload of money from Texas and OSU and couldn't turn that down.

And we wouldn't have the pleasure of putting down OSU if they're playing a team that's their equal....

I just came across this from USA Today.

Demand for Fiesta Bowl tour packages severly down

In metro Phoenix, hotels and resorts are pushing low rates and freebies to spur last-minute demand, with luxury Scottsdale resorts going for as little as $119 on Hotwire.com.

"The demand here is terrible," said Lisa Cisco, owner of Travel Partners in Dublin, Ohio, a travel agency that has been selling bowl packages since 1979.

Cisco said she has booked just 64 clients for a $1,649 package that includes a game ticket, round-trip airfare, four nights at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak, breakfast and more. Two years ago, she had 708 buyers travel to Arizona to see Ohio State play for the national championship in Glendale.

Not all Ohio State fans live in Ohio. Not all Texas fans live in Texas. Trust me, fans of both teams will represent come Monday night.

[Gary]

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

Because Phoenix knows they'll be getting a boatload of money from Texas and OSU and couldn't turn that down.

And we wouldn't have the pleasure of putting down OSU if they're playing a team that's their equal....

I just came across this from USA Today.

Demand for Fiesta Bowl tour packages severly down

In metro Phoenix, hotels and resorts are pushing low rates and freebies to spur last-minute demand, with luxury Scottsdale resorts going for as little as $119 on Hotwire.com.

"The demand here is terrible," said Lisa Cisco, owner of Travel Partners in Dublin, Ohio, a travel agency that has been selling bowl packages since 1979.

Cisco said she has booked just 64 clients for a $1,649 package that includes a game ticket, round-trip airfare, four nights at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak, breakfast and more. Two years ago, she had 708 buyers travel to Arizona to see Ohio State play for the national championship in Glendale.

Not all Ohio State fans live in Ohio. Not all Texas fans live in Texas. Trust me, fans of both teams will represent come Monday night.

Coming from a Glendale pov, all I see is visitors from Ohio and Texas. The city of Glendale will still earn 7-10 Million from the game. Nothing will change

[dfwabel]

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

Because Phoenix knows they'll be getting a boatload of money from Texas and OSU and couldn't turn that down.

And we wouldn't have the pleasure of putting down OSU if they're playing a team that's their equal....

I just came across this from USA Today.

Demand for Fiesta Bowl tour packages severly down

In metro Phoenix, hotels and resorts are pushing low rates and freebies to spur last-minute demand, with luxury Scottsdale resorts going for as little as $119 on Hotwire.com.

"The demand here is terrible," said Lisa Cisco, owner of Travel Partners in Dublin, Ohio, a travel agency that has been selling bowl packages since 1979.

Cisco said she has booked just 64 clients for a $1,649 package that includes a game ticket, round-trip airfare, four nights at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak, breakfast and more. Two years ago, she had 708 buyers travel to Arizona to see Ohio State play for the national championship in Glendale.

Not all Ohio State fans live in Ohio. Not all Texas fans live in Texas. Trust me, fans of both teams will represent come Monday night.

Both schools received 17,500 tickets. Texas has basically sold their alottment and OSU had a public sale for the first time in recent years for a BCS game. Seats are also $155 a pop. the game on a Monday is also another issus as kids return to school and the workforce returns from any break they may have had. At least it is not as dire as the attempt to sell out the Vikings/Eagles playoff game.

[Sport]

It's the economy coupled with a pretty weak match-up. No offense to Va. Tech or Cincinnati fans but neither of these teams is going to "travel" all that well. Especially Bearcats fans (all 206 of them.) I really don't understand why The BCS didn't split up Ohio State and Texas. Both schools pull huge crowds so why not put Ohio State in The Fiesta and Texas in The Orange?

Because Phoenix knows they'll be getting a boatload of money from Texas and OSU and couldn't turn that down.

And we wouldn't have the pleasure of putting down OSU if they're playing a team that's their equal....

I just came across this from USA Today.

Demand for Fiesta Bowl tour packages severly down

In metro Phoenix, hotels and resorts are pushing low rates and freebies to spur last-minute demand, with luxury Scottsdale resorts going for as little as $119 on Hotwire.com.

"The demand here is terrible," said Lisa Cisco, owner of Travel Partners in Dublin, Ohio, a travel agency that has been selling bowl packages since 1979.

Cisco said she has booked just 64 clients for a $1,649 package that includes a game ticket, round-trip airfare, four nights at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak, breakfast and more. Two years ago, she had 708 buyers travel to Arizona to see Ohio State play for the national championship in Glendale.

Not all Ohio State fans live in Ohio. Not all Texas fans live in Texas. Trust me, fans of both teams will represent come Monday night.

Coming from a Glendale pov, all I see is visitors from Ohio and Texas. The city of Glendale will still earn 7-10 Million from the game. Nothing will change

Plus you have to remember that this is like the 5th time this decade that OSU has gone to the Fiesta Bowl or glendale. Usually I'm able to count on two hands the number of people I know who are attending the OSU bowl game, but this year I can't think of one and the overwhelming majority are bored with the fiesta bowl, and the economy is making people think about how they spend their money. People are bored with Phoenix and they'd rather get a look at Miami or Pasadena again. Also, Ohio State has the largest alumni base of anybody in the country (which for the record Oddball is the reason for their inclusion in the BCS more than anything) so I don't doubt that Buckeye fans in Arizona will make up the difference.

As for UC last night, that was a frustrating game to watch. They could've won, but you can't make that many mistakes in the red zone and expect a victory, it just doesn't happen. Also, the Bearcats poor tackling was a key contributer to the loss.

[infrared41]

Plus you have to remember that this is like the 5th time this decade that OSU has gone to the Fiesta Bowl or glendale. Usually I'm able to count on two hands the number of people I know who are attending the OSU bowl game, but this year I can't think of one and the overwhelming majority are bored with the fiesta bowl, and the economy is making people think about how they spend their money. People are bored with Phoenix and they'd rather get a look at Miami or Pasadena again. Also, Ohio State has the largest alumni base of anybody in the country (which for the record Oddball is the reason for their inclusion in the BCS more than anything) so I don't doubt that Buckeye fans in Arizona will make up the difference.

And people said I was nuts when I said the Buckeyes would make a BCS bowl for those exact reasons. And yeah, the Fiesta Bowl is really old news. I think the folks in Glendale went to the well one time too many with The Buckeyes. I was actually hoping for the Capital One Bowl. I wanted a crack at Georgia.

[McCall]

Utah 14, Alabama 0. 8:37 to go in the 1st Quarter...

Wow.