infrared41 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Because we're not out of our goddamn gourds, probably.Well I guess you told me eh? Geez, what was wrong with me to float such an asinine idea. Thank goodness there's a voice of reason out there to set us all straight. I guess I'd better go crawl back into my "goddamn gourd" and fall in line. All roads lead to Dollar General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've never heard a serious relocation discussion that involved Mexico City. I'm sorry for coming down on you like that. Even the mentions of Monterrey, which is supposed to be the more realistic alternative to sports in Mexico City, are shot down because of too much pollution and poverty. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've never heard a serious relocation discussion that involved Mexico City. I'm sorry for coming down on you like that. Even the mentions of Monterrey, which is supposed to be the more realistic alternative to sports in Mexico City, are shot down because of too much pollution and poverty.And crime. And near civil war. And imminent state failure. And you get the picture. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakland ehs Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 As an A's fan who isn't from anywhere close, but had the pleasure of finally seeing a couple home games last year - I'm pulling for the team to stay in Oakland too.What'd be glorious would be the Raiders getting their own stadium, and the Coliseum being put into a time machine back to 1993, with modern updates of course.In reality, it'd be nice if they could figure out a solution in the Oakland area though. Obviously it had to be brought up at some point, but I don't see why they can't build in the parking lot. That thing is HUGE.The Raiders are talking their own stadium, and I even read a rumbling of the 49ers and Raiders sharing. So build that, build a baseball stadium in the coliseum lot, then demolish the damn thing.Of course, I'm talking in the world where money grows on trees.I'm just happy I won't be hearing of the Oakland Athletics of Fremont anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Now is the city ready to either choose to either bid for the Athletics or to save the Kings? For the forseeable future, their is not enough money for Sacramento to do both and you have a former NBA player as your mayor. Easily expanded still will cost millions as the demands of an MLB will just increase. Raley Field has what 35 suites, less than a 1,000 club seats and a capacity of what? 15, 000? What would they consider to be MLB ready in terms of overall capacity and premium seats?Same region different cities. The stadium would be in West Sacramento (in Yolo County) on the other side of the river from Sacramento. Any improvements to Raley Field is on them. As for the Kings, they haven't made any progress because the former mayor was stonewalling things and the economy tanked. However, if they were to build a new arena for the Kings it should either be built where Arco is now (move them to Stockton until it's ready), where Downtown Plaza is or over in West Sac just south of Raley Field. Cal Expo is a bad location for an arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Pittsburgh could use a major league baseball team; let's move the A's there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I don't know. Now's just a bad time to worry about this stuff. The A's are just going to have to make the best of their situation, I guess. Look back just 15 years or so at some of the dumps around the bigs: Three Rivers, the Vet, Riverfront, Busch II, the Astrodome, Olympic Stadium, both County Stadia, the Kingdome, Dolphin Stadium (oops that's still there, huh), and Candlestick. Baseball fans tolerated some horrible venues in order to watch the game. The Oakland Coliseum isn't ideal, but it's still a better park than all of those places, and the A's have been able to get people in the building before. Maybe AT&T Park is going to fall out of people's price ranges, and cheaper tickets to A's games will look more attractive. After all, don't most Bay Area fans claim to like both teams? I don't know why, but I want to believe in Oakland.Actually, Busch Stadium II (the one before the current one) was probably one of, if not, the best of the multi-purpose, aka "Cookie-Cutter" ballparks. And that's not just my opinion.You would think the Giants wouldn't be too opposed to the A's moving down to San Jose. As is, their ballparks are about, what, 15 miles apart? Why wouldn't they be delighted to see them move down to the south end of the bay and have the north end all to themselves? https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarrDogg Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 In the next 10 years I just don't see any new stadiums being built in the Bay Area, unless the teams pay for it themselves. Remember it's the Bay Area we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Pittsburgh could use a major league baseball team; let's move the A's there!DEAD! beat you to that one by quite a few posts --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I don't know. Now's just a bad time to worry about this stuff. The A's are just going to have to make the best of their situation, I guess. Look back just 15 years or so at some of the dumps around the bigs: Three Rivers, the Vet, Riverfront, Busch II, the Astrodome, Olympic Stadium, both County Stadia, the Kingdome, Dolphin Stadium (oops that's still there, huh), and Candlestick. Baseball fans tolerated some horrible venues in order to watch the game. The Oakland Coliseum isn't ideal, but it's still a better park than all of those places, and the A's have been able to get people in the building before. Maybe AT&T Park is going to fall out of people's price ranges, and cheaper tickets to A's games will look more attractive. After all, don't most Bay Area fans claim to like both teams? I don't know why, but I want to believe in Oakland.Actually, Busch Stadium II (the one before the current one) was probably one of, if not, the best of the multi-purpose, aka "Cookie-Cutter" ballparks. And that's not just my opinion.You would think the Giants wouldn't be too opposed to the A's moving down to San Jose. As is, their ballparks are about, what, 15 miles apart? Why wouldn't they be delighted to see them move down to the south end of the bay and have the north end all to themselves?The Giants single A team is based in San Jose. In addition, their local TV affiliate (non-cable) is NBC 11, who is based in San Jose. Since they came from New York, they have done their best to penetrate the market to the south as far as Fresno. Giving up on the South Bay may also alienate those in teh central valley. The A's don't even have radio broadcasts as far south as Fresno, but the Dodgers and Giants do (or did as late as 2007). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm looking at the vaunted Raley Field. I dunno, guys. It's not blowing me away.That's basically every AAA park. Small grandstand, lawn beyond the outfield, so on, so forth. I guess you could add more seats down the foul line, but it would look somewhat tacked-on (not that Mt. Davis is a beauty), and that's not taking into account luxury suites and all that really important stuff. After all the expenses to make it acceptable to host visits from the Yankees and Red Sox, it still wouldn't be a permanent solution. They'd probably have to build another park, and Sacramento is struggling to keep the Kings in town, which wouldn't even be nearly as expensive as bringing the A's to town. As for being one of the best parks in the league, by what metric, exactly? Yankee Stadium is bigger. Fenway Park is more iconic. Camden Yards is cooler. Kauffman Stadium is just plain beautiful. Angel Stadium is probably a better all-around entertainment experience. I guess it'll be better than Tropicana Field and the Skydome just by virtue of having natural grass, but a repurposed minor league park is not going to surpass established quality ballparks. You're fooling yourself if you say that and mean it.I don't know. Now's just a bad time to worry about this stuff. The A's are just going to have to make the best of their situation, I guess. Look back just 15 years or so at some of the dumps around the bigs: Three Rivers, the Vet, Riverfront, Busch II, the Astrodome, Olympic Stadium, both County Stadia, the Kingdome, Dolphin Stadium (oops that's still there, huh), and Candlestick. Baseball fans tolerated some horrible venues in order to watch the game. The Oakland Coliseum isn't ideal, but it's still a better park than all of those places, and the A's have been able to get people in the building before. Maybe AT&T Park is going to fall out of people's price ranges, and cheaper tickets to A's games will look more attractive. After all, don't most Bay Area fans claim to like both teams? I don't know why, but I want to believe in Oakland.If they stay in Oakland I'll most certainly be happy, but the thing with Raley Field is that it was built for the purposes of expansion. The ENTIRE area around the stadium is an old abandoned train yard so if they're really looking to go with the whole ballpark village thing, which was the original idea in Fremont, it's the perfect spot. I wish I could find the plans, but the next time I'm down at the stadium I'll take a picture of how the proposal would work to expand the park. And I say it could be one of the nicest parks for many reasons. First off the skyline is beautiful (Sacramento doesn't have an iconic skyline like places such as St. Louis, obviously. But it has it's own charm), access would be tremendously easy, the park is already one of the nicest in the PCL as it is, and could only get better with expansion. So I guess one of the best in the league would be a bit over the top, but surprisingly nice is a good possibility. And the thing with keeping the Kings in town has more to do with the Maloofs alienating the entire fan base more than the city struggling to keep the team in town. Honestly, I don't think the area really wants the Kings anymore. It's to the point where a lot of locals even wouldn't mind seeing them leave. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHoJoe Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Pittsburgh could use a major league baseball team; let's move the A's there!How about moving the A's back to Philly? A new Connie Mack Park would sound nice! BRING BASEBALL BACK TO MONTREAL!!!! MON AMOURS SIEMPRE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Pittsburgh could use a major league baseball team; let's move the A's there!How about moving the A's back to Philly? A new Connie Mack Park would sound nice!I think that if they built a stadium in the Northeast section of the city, they'd actually do quite well. Up until last season's Phillies championship, I'd have said that a second team in this market would be able to succeed instantly based on 1. the sheer size of the market, and 2. the dissatisfaction with and decreased loyalty that the fans had for the Phillies.Based on all of the books I've read, and old timers I've talked to, Philadelphia was an American league town for the better part of the first half of the century - the Phillies were second-class citizens in the town, and never, even 50+ years after the A's left, developed the type of fan die-hard-loyal fan base that the Eagles and Flyers were able to attract. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Pittsburgh could use a major league baseball team; let's move the A's there!How about moving the A's back to Philly? A new Connie Mack Park would sound nice!The Vancouver Athletics, anyone?Yes!!!! If not, Portland, Oregon!Knowing your track record, I thought you were going to advocate Philadelphia. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Well apparently, San Jose might be back into the fold.Lew Wolff tells San Jose to limit lobbying for the A'sEditorial on possibility of a downtown San Jose A's stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrousoxide66 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Contraction is stupid. No.I don't know the region all that well, but there has to be somewhere in Alameda County that they can build a park. I know the Giants are popular and all, but just because there's another team across town doesn't mean they should just abandon the whole thing and move out to Sacramento. The Mets, Angels, and White Sox are all able to survive despite a more popular team in the market. If teams can co-exist with the New York Yankees and Chicago Cubs, two of the most popular sports teams in America, certainly the A's can co-exist with the Giants. So maybe they need a new and aesthetically pleasing park. Okay. I'd still rather have the SFBA media market to make money in than Sacramento.Let's all be glad that we escaped that horrible "Silicon Valley A's at Fremont" proposed name. Yeesh.Contraction is stupid? We've got franchises collapsing upon themselves. We've run out of viable locations to run to and grab the gleaming new ballpark prize. And no, there are no viable locations in Alameda County. With the massive cash shortfall that's hitting the county very hard, schools closing across the board, companies being hit left and right, jobs gutted, this is no time for a frivolous ballpark. Oakland in particular is in shambles. Contra Costa County (the more affluent county adjacent to Alameda that contains many A's fans) is in dire straits financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 The A's are a cornerstone of the major leagues. They cannot be allowed to stop existing. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 :lol: Thanks, I needed that. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 They have history! Connie Mack, Catfish Hunter, everyone on steroids, that book their general manager wrote except he didn't...the Athletics are too important to just get rid of. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Every team that old has "history." I don't see the A's as being more crucial to the American League than many of the other teams, and actually see them as less so.Not that I want contraction, but if it were to happen there's no reason the A's are so special as to be exempted from the conversation.I'm still hoping that they can work out a deal in Oakland. Maybe it's time to re-examine the Coliseum parking lot. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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