BBTV Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Man do I hate totally round (or square) logos. Always hated the Expos update, and the Rangers too. The new 76ers is the worst of both worlds, as it's a circle inside of a square. Also add me to the group of those who find the "Baseball Club" thing redundant, especially since the logo contains an image of an actual baseball. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallWonk Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Man do I hate totally round (or square) logos. Always hated the Expos update, and the Rangers too. The new 76ers is the worst of both worlds, as it's a circle inside of a square. Also add me to the group of those who find the "Baseball Club" thing redundant, especially since the logo contains an image of an actual baseball.I don't mind circular logos -- a logo has to have a shape, and the difference between any one shape and any other is essentially arbitrary, unless there are matters of identity that lend themselves to being more clearly communicated by certain shapes. As, for example, a circle better communicates the notion of a ball team's identity than, say, a pentagon. But I'm with you on the "Baseball Club" thing. I totally understand why a team does that -- it's both a fauxback retroism and also a way to balance out the civic name at the top of the logo. You've gotta put something down on the bottom of the logo once you commit to putting "Minnesota" up at the top. But "Baseball Club" just feels like a cop-out. How about a pair of dingbats (stars, pennants, whatever) signifying the team's two World Series titles? Or something like "Est. 1901 1961"? Or even the series "1858 1901 1961"? Something different, something that would speak to the kinds of things the Twins are trying to say about the team's identity in the post-Metrodome era. (Which I think have to do with tradition, timelessness, and regional relevance.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 1961 flanked by two stars for the two world championships would be better than "baseball club." I get 1901 (Washington Senators founded), but what's 1858? Minnesota statehood? ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 signifying championships isn't really a great idea, because then everything has to be updated if / when you win another one.Not everything really has to have any kind of significant meaning - they could just put diamonds or stars or moons or clovers or horseshoes in there for balance.Or maybe something like * M N * S T P * "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJaxon Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 So far so good on the changes. I'm eager to find out which team completely screws it up this year I'll take Mets for twelve hundred, Alex. ditto.Yup, patiently waiting to get a good laugh out of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallWonk Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 signifying championships isn't really a great idea, because then everything has to be updated if / when you win another one.Not everything really has to have any kind of significant meaning - they could just put diamonds or stars or moons or clovers or horseshoes in there for balance.Or maybe something like * M N * S T P *I'm guessing the conversation would not go like this:Team Owner: Third out! Whooooooo! Yeahhhhhh! World Champions! Raaaaaaaaaah!Marketing Director: Sir, you realize this means we're going to have to spend a few thousand dollars on new stationery and website updates to add another star to our logo? Team Owner: Got-dammit! Is it too late to order the manager to forfeit? Anyway, you're right that every element of a logo doesn't have to mean something. But every element does have to have a reason for being there -- it has to communicate something within the context of the logo, even if it has no particular independent meaning of its own. Which is precisely the problem with "Baseball Club" -- it doesn't communicate anything. It's no worse than a bunch of marshmallow clovers would be, and so if I don't object to random dingbats, then I have no logical grounds for objecting to "Baseball Club." Either way, it's just random visual clutter. One of the few things I really like about the Nationals primary logo is that they fill the dead space in the bottom of the logo not with "Baseball Club" or other throwaway text, and not with a random number of stars, but with nine stars. It's a nice reference to the flag and to patriotic bunting, but it's also a reference to the team, to the sport, and even to the fact that it's a National League club. Would have much preferred if the Twins had found a similar device that's in some way meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'm guessing the conversation would not go like this:Team Owner: Third out! Whooooooo! Yeahhhhhh! World Champions! Raaaaaaaaaah!Marketing Director: Sir, you realize this means we're going to have to spend a few thousand dollars on new stationery and website updates to add another star to our logo? Team Owner: Got-dammit! Is it too late to order the manager to forfeit?It'd go that way if Pohlad weren't dead. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 signifying championships isn't really a great idea, because then everything has to be updated if / when you win another one.Not everything really has to have any kind of significant meaning - they could just put diamonds or stars or moons or clovers or horseshoes in there for balance.Or maybe something like * M N * S T P *Don't worry, with their payroll and philosophy, they'll never win another one anyway. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally1912 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Images of KC's powder blue and Minnestota's new TC road cap are on New Era's site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahatman Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Images of KC's powder blue and Minnestota's new TC road cap are on New Era's site.I like both caps but leave it to New Era to ruin the launch that these teams probably had planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 That should about do it for the "M" then. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawlmerOreos Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 That should about do it for the "M" then.Not so fast... Frank Creative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 That should about do it for the "M" then.Not so fast...Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Seeing this makes me want the Rays to at least consider a powder blue cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 That should about do it for the "M" then.Not so fast...Seconded.Damn. I was hoping so.So we're either talking an alt cap, bringing the Twins to 3 caps; the home cap, which I highly doubt; or BP, a possibility. Or perhaps the above cap is the new home cap. But I'd guess the all-blue is going to remain the primary home. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njmeadowlanders Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is it just the photo or is there a Royal Blue thread going straight down the seams of the cap (with the exception of the front two panels)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardWitham Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is it just the photo or is there a Royal Blue thread going straight down the seams of the cap (with the exception of the front two panels)?that's a BP template, no? The Danimal said: Texas is the state that gave us George W. Bush and Sarah Palin. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is it just the photo or is there a Royal Blue thread going straight down the seams of the cap (with the exception of the front two panels)?that's a BP template, no?No, and no. It's just the angle. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDixonDesign Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Really like the PB Royals cap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Prediction - the light-blue Royals cap will go the way of the gray road caps that the Orioles, Pirates, Royals, et al tried in the late '90s. They'll be back to royal by the ASG.This cap would be better if there wasn't royal around the monogram. Just like the jersey would be better if the script wasn't royal. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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