2009 NFL Playoffs

[logoman]

HaHa! Favre's a douche. Any Vikings fan who is upset with this loss should take their Favre jersey and burn it! He lost the game for the 'queens and I have never been happier! I hope the organization realizes it's time to move forward whether it be through draft choices or working within the talent they have available. Either way, I could not be happier that the favredouche is finally broken and bruised to the point that he finally retires (for good and the good of the game). What a total selfish prick. Brett Favre. Moron. Douchebag. Loser. HaHa!

[Cujo]

The last 2 times the Jets were in the AFC Title game, the Vikings lost the NFC Championship game in OT.

As for my Jets, what can I say? Manning is just incredible. This team gave me a hell of a ride, completely out of nowhere, and it was just a fun and enjoyable ride for once. I'm not nearly as disappointed as I thought I'd be. I realize they've now blown 10 and 11 point leads on the road in their last 2 title games (@ Elway's Broncos in Jan '99, today @ Manning's Colts) but this one just doesn't sting as much as I thought it would.

For once in my life though I finally feel like this team is moving in the right direction in general rather than just a year here and a year there with lots of sucking/mediocrity in between. I really do.

What stings most about today's loss is not knowing when the Jets will be able to make it back to this point. It was 11 long years since I last experienced this. I thought the Jets would be back after '98, especially after Elway retired. However, Vinny shredded his knee Week 1, the Tuna bailed, and Key asked out, and that was the end of that -- so you never know.

But as far as what happened on the field, I was able to walk away with my head held high. The Jets played their hearts out and gave the Colts their best shot. The Jets almost made no mistakes on offense. The defense started out on fire, but got picked apart as the game went on. However, that just comes with playing across from the great Peyton Manning. Had Shonn Greene not gone down in the 3rd, who knows if they Jets ground game doesn't sputter for the remainder of the game. But the better team won today and that's something I can definitely live with.

Regardless of what transpired today, this team is young, the defense is stellar, and Rex Ryan seems to know exactly which direction he wants to guide this team. The future is very bright and I am damn proud to be a fan of the J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!

[njmeadowlanders]

Just a quick take...I'm obviously jazzed that the Saints won but boy was that ugly. They reverted to almost every single bad behavior they'd supposedly fixed this season. I'll list them tomorrow, I'm too tired tonight (up at 4am, worked 6A to 5P, watched the game).

Funny thing, I was in a daze when Hartley kicked the FG, like I was waiting for the Vikes to call time out or something. They'd already done that of course but I just kind of sat there, watched the ball sail through the uprights, set down the remote, and said, "Holy s***!"

I went to my first Saints game in December 1969 and have lived since then believing that sooner or later, if you just hang on long enough, every dog has its day.

My dog is finally going to have his.

It would have to be against Peyton Freakin' Manning...

I'm with you. Even though I'm not as old as you the Jets haven't done it in my lifetime and I know the feeling, though not as long I understand. Just enjoy the ride. I don't know what it feels like, but I hope to one day. That's why I keep watching and following the team, as I'm sure you and millions others do.

I'm not greedy. I just want to experience it one time. And that's why I'll keep watching...and waiting...

[njmeadowlanders]

BTW Vinny tore his achillies not his knee on opening day in '99, just to set that one straight...

[HedleyLamarr]

Just a quick take...I'm obviously jazzed that the Saints won but boy was that ugly. They reverted to almost every single bad behavior they'd supposedly fixed this season. I'll list them tomorrow, I'm too tired tonight (up at 4am, worked 6A to 5P, watched the game).

Funny thing, I was in a daze when Hartley kicked the FG, like I was waiting for the Vikes to call time out or something. They'd already done that of course but I just kind of sat there, watched the ball sail through the uprights, set down the remote, and said, "Holy s***!"

I went to my first Saints game in December 1969 and have lived since then believing that sooner or later, if you just hang on long enough, every dog has its day.

My dog is finally going to have his.

It would have to be against Peyton Freakin' Manning...

Again, the parallels between the Falcons and Saints continue....both teams reach their first Super Bowl with a field goal in OT to beat the Vikings. (Coincidentally, the Jets lost in the AFC Championship by 13 points that day, too.)

Enjoy it, Skyaa. I won't be cheering for the Saints, but I know what you're going through. The Falcons ran into that buzz-saw called Elway in their Super Bowl appearance, but I didn't care.

[Viper]

Its it me or is it that the last Super Bowl in Miami (XLI) was televised on CBS with the Colts there, Now 3 seasons later, there is a Miami Super Bowl, CBS is carrying it and....the Colts are there too, hmmmmmm...coincidence no doubt.

Yes this is EXTREMELY fishy. I think the NFL needs to launch an investigation, there's noooo way that happens without some type of interference or illegal exchange of large sums of money.

That's not the half of it. This will be the Colts' fourth Super Bowl appearance overall - and all four are/were in Miami.

[rams80]

I think the overtime rule is complete garbage and it needs to be changed. Now I didn't care who won this game, but although the Vikings coughed up plenty of chances, the calls blown in overtime really ruined this for me. Overtime in the NFL is always going to be garbage as long as the other team does not have the opportunity to answer on the score.

Why not try and prevent the team from scoring in the first place instead of hoping to answer a score? You know, use those guys who get paid to knock the ball down when it's thrown, tackle the guy with the ball, or try and create a turnover (read: Brett Farve's last pass with the Pack). What do they call that group of guys again?

There's your answer.

No, it's not the answer. How would you like it if an overtime basketball game was determined by the first team to make a basket? How about if the road team in a baseball game scores first and the home team is not allowed to come up in the bottom half of the inning? I'm not saying re-invent the wheel here. Just kick the ball off and give their offense a shot. I just think it's a sorry way to end a football game.

Those sports are not the same as football. The chances of a game-ending bolt-from-the-blue TD at the start of O/T are remote, and there is typically enough opportunity for a defense to make a play to stop the offense. There is enough of a "blend" between the two platoons in football and what they can do on a given play that a sudden death outcome is acceptable. Both defense and offense can score on any given play, yet the chances are limited enough that sudden death is an acceptable choice.

Baseball does not give the scoring opportunity to both pitching and hitting times, so in that regard equalizing "possessions" is necessary. Conversely, basketball does make it reasonably easy to score, so sudden death O/T is not acceptable, as the game can be won based on a single tip off.

Of course...I will leave this option out there again. Onside kick. Nobody's stopping you.

[OnWis97]

You'd think the Colts won the Super Bowl with the reaction 'round these parts.

"Super Again" is the headline in the special edition of the Indy Star.

It's a spin on the cover from Super Bowl 41, not the AFC Championship Game.

Consider that the Colts just edged out the Jets, who actually played like the second best team in the NFL, today. New Orleans and Minnesota both looked incredibly trashy. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Indy blasts the NFC Champs in a couple weeks.

I wouldn't debate this fact, it seems a little premature to call them "Super Again" when they haven't won the thing yet.

"Super Again" could just mean "we're going back to the Super Bowl".

[infrared41]

Just a quick take...I'm obviously jazzed that the Saints won but boy was that ugly. They reverted to almost every single bad behavior they'd supposedly fixed this season. I'll list them tomorrow, I'm too tired tonight (up at 4am, worked 6A to 5P, watched the game).

Funny thing, I was in a daze when Hartley kicked the FG, like I was waiting for the Vikes to call time out or something. They'd already done that of course but I just kind of sat there, watched the ball sail through the uprights, set down the remote, and said, "Holy s***!"

I went to my first Saints game in December 1969 and have lived since then believing that sooner or later, if you just hang on long enough, every dog has its day.

My dog is finally going to have his.

It would have to be against Peyton Freakin' Manning...

I doubt this place has very many old timers who have been following their team for 40 years. But I know there are at least two of us. From one long suffering fan to another... Enjoy the ride! Go Saints.

[OnWis97]

I think the overtime rule is complete garbage and it needs to be changed. Now I didn't care who won this game, but although the Vikings coughed up plenty of chances, the calls blown in overtime really ruined this for me. Overtime in the NFL is always going to be garbage as long as the other team does not have the opportunity to answer on the score.

Why not try and prevent the team from scoring in the first place instead of hoping to answer a score? You know, use those guys who get paid to knock the ball down when it's thrown, tackle the guy with the ball, or try and create a turnover (read: Brett Farve's last pass with the Pack). What do they call that group of guys again?

There's your answer.

No, it's not the answer. How would you like it if an overtime basketball game was determined by the first team to make a basket? How about if the road team in a baseball game scores first and the home team is not allowed to come up in the bottom half of the inning? I'm not saying re-invent the wheel here. Just kick the ball off and give their offense a shot. I just think it's a sorry way to end a football game.

Those sports are not the same as football. The chances of a game-ending bolt-from-the-blue TD at the start of O/T are remote, and there is typically enough opportunity for a defense to make a play to stop the offense. There is enough of a "blend" between the two platoons in football and what they can do on a given play that a sudden death outcome is acceptable. Both defense and offense can score on any given play, yet the chances are limited enough that sudden death is an acceptable choice.

Baseball does not give the scoring opportunity to both pitching and hitting times, so in that regard equalizing "possessions" is necessary. Conversely, basketball does make it reasonably easy to score, so sudden death O/T is not acceptable, as the game can be won based on a single tip off.

Of course...I will leave this option out there again. Onside kick. Nobody's stopping you.

Very true. In all fairness, both baseball and basketball have a huge advantage in that how to do OT is a no-brainer. Football is much tougher.

There is no doubt in my mind that the NFL way is lacking in some "fairness" of baseball and basketball. So the questions are a: how much of a fairness disparity is given to the coin flip winner? and b: Do we want to correct that at the expense of "the real game." Baseball and basketball get the fairness without really changing the way the game is played. In football, you cannot help but notice the pleasure teams take in winning the coin flip and you cannot help but acknowledge how crazy everyone thought Detroit was for kicking that one time (cuz if it was fair, then kicking should be a viable alternative). However you also have to acknowledge that the college way, takes the "long drive" and special teams out of the game. Is it as bad as, say, a hockey shootout? I'd say no. But it's not as good as extra innings. The NFL goes for playing it the same, keeping it short. College goes for "equality."

I used to be hard core for college. But the stats don't really lie. I know in the 1990s, I heard that the team that won the flip won about 52% of the time. I do wonder whether that's moved a bit after moving the kickoff spot back 5 yards. If so, they should kick off from the 35 again.

There is still a big part of me that wants to go with the fairness, but I'll go to the "keeping it more like football" and getting the slight hint of "shootout" away from it. Therefore, I think they can "tweak" it in the best interest of the integrity of the winner. Whether it's moving the kickoff back to the 35, making it the first to four points, that the game does not end until each team has had at least one possession, etc.

Was tonight's overtime totally like a football game? One offense and one defense did not even get on the field. Is that how it's played? (And I know I have a Vikes flag in my sig, but this team fumbling it over and over deserved what it got...so I don't blame anyone but the offensive skill players...it should never have gone to OT)

But, as I said, advantage baseball and basketball.

[TopCat]

I place all blame for this loss squarely on the shoulders of... Brad Childress. He looks like Squidward for God sakes! What is this? BULL DROPPINGS. Oh my mothersnucking word, AGHHHHHHHHH! WHO DAT!? STFU THAT'S "WHO"!!! Teams with fans that celebrate with improper grammar shouldn't be allowed to participate in the playoffs! That. Is also who. BRETT FAVRE SCARES ME, I IN MY PANTS EVERYTIME WE HAND OFF! Pants on the ground you say? More like dead bodies on the ground, because that's what this is. Bull :censored:ing ! They weren't having fun, they were getting raped up the ass by the officiating crew. AND THEY DID A DAMN FINE JOB! BLURRRRRRGH AH. Congrats to the Saints on "winning"! May you participate in the most boring Super Bowl game of all time and lose by the score of 3-0.

I'm tired. Let's go Twins!

Isn't this how you got banned the first time? Speaking of banned, why are you not banned again?

No and not sure. Sorry that I got a little out of hand there, just like the ball when AP is running with it! Baa dum pssst.

[Cujo]

I place all blame for this loss squarely on the shoulders of... Brad Childress. He looks like Squidward for God sakes! What is this? BULL DROPPINGS. Oh my mothersnucking word, AGHHHHHHHHH! WHO DAT!? STFU THAT'S "WHO"!!! Teams with fans that celebrate with improper grammar shouldn't be allowed to participate in the playoffs! That. Is also who. BRETT FAVRE SCARES ME, I IN MY PANTS EVERYTIME WE HAND OFF! Pants on the ground you say? More like dead bodies on the ground, because that's what this is. Bull :censored:ing ! They weren't having fun, they were getting raped up the ass by the officiating crew. AND THEY DID A DAMN FINE JOB! BLURRRRRRGH AH. Congrats to the Saints on "winning"! May you participate in the most boring Super Bowl game of all time and lose by the score of 3-0.

I'm tired. Let's go Twins!

Isn't this how you got banned the first time? Speaking of banned, why are you not banned again?

No and not sure. Sorry that I got a little out of hand there, just like the ball when AP is running with it! Baa dum pssst.

Not sure why anyone would want to return after getting bitchslapped by Spammy under a bogus username.

[rams80]

I place all blame for this loss squarely on the shoulders of... Brad Childress. He looks like Squidward for God sakes! What is this? BULL DROPPINGS. Oh my mothersnucking word, AGHHHHHHHHH! WHO DAT!? STFU THAT'S "WHO"!!! Teams with fans that celebrate with improper grammar shouldn't be allowed to participate in the playoffs! That. Is also who. BRETT FAVRE SCARES ME, I IN MY PANTS EVERYTIME WE HAND OFF! Pants on the ground you say? More like dead bodies on the ground, because that's what this is. Bull :censored:ing ! They weren't having fun, they were getting raped up the ass by the officiating crew. AND THEY DID A DAMN FINE JOB! BLURRRRRRGH AH. Congrats to the Saints on "winning"! May you participate in the most boring Super Bowl game of all time and lose by the score of 3-0.

I'm tired. Let's go Twins!

Isn't this how you got banned the first time? Speaking of banned, why are you not banned again?

No and not sure. Sorry that I got a little out of hand there, just like the ball when AP is running with it! Baa dum pssst.

He's only the second best back in the Conference. You should cut his fumbling arse.

[NEW.ERA]

Really sad for Favre and the Vikes, but I'm more concerned about the play call what do you have to lose. You have arguably the best kicker in the game that could make it from 55 yards as time expired.

Oh and Go Colts!

[crashcarson15]

You'd think the Colts won the Super Bowl with the reaction 'round these parts.

"Super Again" is the headline in the special edition of the Indy Star.

It's a spin on the cover from Super Bowl 41, not the AFC Championship Game.

Consider that the Colts just edged out the Jets, who actually played like the second best team in the NFL, today. New Orleans and Minnesota both looked incredibly trashy. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Indy blasts the NFC Champs in a couple weeks.

I wouldn't debate this fact, it seems a little premature to call them "Super Again" when they haven't won the thing yet.

"Super Again" could just mean "we're going back to the Super Bowl".

But not used as being a reference to this from when they won the Super Bowl:

[TopCat]

You'd think the Colts won the Super Bowl with the reaction 'round these parts.

"Super Again" is the headline in the special edition of the Indy Star.

It's a spin on the cover from Super Bowl 41, not the AFC Championship Game.

Consider that the Colts just edged out the Jets, who actually played like the second best team in the NFL, today. New Orleans and Minnesota both looked incredibly trashy. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Indy blasts the NFC Champs in a couple weeks.

I wouldn't debate this fact, it seems a little premature to call them "Super Again" when they haven't won the thing yet.

"Super Again" could just mean "we're going back to the Super Bowl".

But not used as being a reference to this from when they won the Super Bowl:

Does the paper say it is a reference to that? Or is this pure assumption?

[NEW.ERA]

Saints seriously need to fix up that defense and they have two weeks but Peyton Manning will do what Peyton Manning does best exploit defenses.

[crashcarson15]

You'd think the Colts won the Super Bowl with the reaction 'round these parts.

"Super Again" is the headline in the special edition of the Indy Star.

It's a spin on the cover from Super Bowl 41, not the AFC Championship Game.

Consider that the Colts just edged out the Jets, who actually played like the second best team in the NFL, today. New Orleans and Minnesota both looked incredibly trashy. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Indy blasts the NFC Champs in a couple weeks.

I wouldn't debate this fact, it seems a little premature to call them "Super Again" when they haven't won the thing yet.

"Super Again" could just mean "we're going back to the Super Bowl".

But not used as being a reference to this from when they won the Super Bowl:

Does the paper say it is a reference to that? Or is this pure assumption?

Well considering this paper's everywhere around Indy, I'm pretty sure it's a reference to this.

[Chawls]

Just a quick take...I'm obviously jazzed that the Saints won but boy was that ugly. They reverted to almost every single bad behavior they'd supposedly fixed this season. I'll list them tomorrow, I'm too tired tonight (up at 4am, worked 6A to 5P, watched the game).

Funny thing, I was in a daze when Hartley kicked the FG, like I was waiting for the Vikes to call time out or something. They'd already done that of course but I just kind of sat there, watched the ball sail through the uprights, set down the remote, and said, "Holy s***!"

I went to my first Saints game in December 1969 and have lived since then believing that sooner or later, if you just hang on long enough, every dog has its day.

My dog is finally going to have his.

It would have to be against Peyton Freakin' Manning...

December 1969? Damn, that's when my mom was born.

Manning is tough. But let's not forget, Brady and Favre were both thought to be tough too. But the Saints beat them both.

[DEAD!]

Its it me or is it that the last Super Bowl in Miami (XLI) was televised on CBS with the Colts there, Now 3 seasons later, there is a Miami Super Bowl, CBS is carrying it and....the Colts are there too, hmmmmmm...coincidence no doubt.

Yes this is EXTREMELY fishy. I think the NFL needs to launch an investigation, there's noooo way that happens without some type of interference or illegal exchange of large sums of money.

That's not the half of it. This will be the Colts' fourth Super Bowl appearance overall - and all four are/were in Miami.

Don't we all know this by now? CBS likes to kiss Manning's butt like Fox does with Favre....