See Red Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Rumors circulating that Utah is making a last second effort & trying to talk Charlotte into a S&T for Hayward before he signs the QO at 12:01AM. They reportedly want Kidd-Gilchrist & Biyombo.I'm sure Cho will agree to send Utah a 20 year old SF who has the most potential on his roster & a 21 year old Center who is already the best rim protector in the NBA in exchange for Hayward.Cho called your bluff Jazz, time to pay up or shut up.you are the worst homer I've ever seen. You say Love, and Irving are far worse than an old wade and bosh, and then say Biyombo is the best rim protector in the league? he had 1 block per game, 4.8 rebounds, 3 points. the guy is a scrub. Then saying Kidd-Gilchrist has the most potential on the roster means he also sucks but maybe could get better.Bismack Biyombo was #1 in the NBA in rim protection. He allowed a league low 38.4 opponent FG% at the rim. Roy Hibbert was 2nd at 41.7%.Per 100 possessions:Biyombo- 17.7 Rebounds, 4.2 BlocksIbaka- 12.8 Rebounds, 4.1 BlocksDwight- 18.0 Rebounds, 2.7 BlocksBiyombo's total numbers are low because he played limited minutes last season. Partially because he's only 21 & had only played basketball for 5 years, and partially because he backs up one of the best post players in the league.Advanced stats say he is the best rim protector in the game. But go ahead, call me a homer and argue against facts and statistics.Weird... because advanced stats say Kyrie Irving is a top ten point guard. Or are those only relevant when they benefit your argument? There is, admittedly, concern with how he handled Cleveland being bad and he did regress last year as a result, but that likely wouldn't be much of a concern with Lebron around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ateles fusciceps Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Rumors circulating that Utah is making a last second effort & trying to talk Charlotte into a S&T for Hayward before he signs the QO at 12:01AM. They reportedly want Kidd-Gilchrist & Biyombo.I'm sure Cho will agree to send Utah a 20 year old SF who has the most potential on his roster & a 21 year old Center who is already the best rim protector in the NBA in exchange for Hayward.Cho called your bluff Jazz, time to pay up or shut up.you are the worst homer I've ever seen. You say Love, and Irving are far worse than an old wade and bosh, and then say Biyombo is the best rim protector in the league? he had 1 block per game, 4.8 rebounds, 3 points. the guy is a scrub. Then saying Kidd-Gilchrist has the most potential on the roster means he also sucks but maybe could get better.Bismack Biyombo was #1 in the NBA in rim protection. He allowed a league low 38.4 opponent FG% at the rim. Roy Hibbert was 2nd at 41.7%.Per 100 possessions:Biyombo- 17.7 Rebounds, 4.2 BlocksIbaka- 12.8 Rebounds, 4.1 BlocksDwight- 18.0 Rebounds, 2.7 BlocksBiyombo's total numbers are low because he played limited minutes last season. Partially because he's only 21 & had only played basketball for 5 years, and partially because he backs up one of the best post players in the league.Advanced stats say he is the best rim protector in the game. But go ahead, call me a homer and argue against facts and statistics. Weird... because advanced stats say Kyrie Irving is a top ten point guard. Or are those only relevant when they benefit your argument? There is, admittedly, concern with how he handled Cleveland being bad and he did regress last year as a result, but that likely wouldn't be much of a concern with Lebron around.Per 100 Possessions:Kyrie- 43% Fg 30 Pt 5 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 4 TovKemba- 40% Fg 26 Pt 6 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 3 TovKemba is also a much better defender, & doesn't miss 20 games a year due to injury.If Kyrie is a top 10 PG, so is Kemba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Rumors circulating that Utah is making a last second effort & trying to talk Charlotte into a S&T for Hayward before he signs the QO at 12:01AM. They reportedly want Kidd-Gilchrist & Biyombo.I'm sure Cho will agree to send Utah a 20 year old SF who has the most potential on his roster & a 21 year old Center who is already the best rim protector in the NBA in exchange for Hayward.Cho called your bluff Jazz, time to pay up or shut up.you are the worst homer I've ever seen. You say Love, and Irving are far worse than an old wade and bosh, and then say Biyombo is the best rim protector in the league? he had 1 block per game, 4.8 rebounds, 3 points. the guy is a scrub. Then saying Kidd-Gilchrist has the most potential on the roster means he also sucks but maybe could get better.Bismack Biyombo was #1 in the NBA in rim protection. He allowed a league low 38.4 opponent FG% at the rim. Roy Hibbert was 2nd at 41.7%.Per 100 possessions:Biyombo- 17.7 Rebounds, 4.2 BlocksIbaka- 12.8 Rebounds, 4.1 BlocksDwight- 18.0 Rebounds, 2.7 BlocksBiyombo's total numbers are low because he played limited minutes last season. Partially because he's only 21 & had only played basketball for 5 years, and partially because he backs up one of the best post players in the league.Advanced stats say he is the best rim protector in the game. But go ahead, call me a homer and argue against facts and statistics. Weird... because advanced stats say Kyrie Irving is a top ten point guard. Or are those only relevant when they benefit your argument? There is, admittedly, concern with how he handled Cleveland being bad and he did regress last year as a result, but that likely wouldn't be much of a concern with Lebron around.Per 100 Possessions:Kyrie- 43% Fg 30 Pt 5 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 4 TovKemba- 40% Fg 26 Pt 6 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 3 TovKemba is also a much better defender, & doesn't miss 20 games a year due to injury.If Kyrie is a top 10 PG, so is Kemba.(Bringing out my inner CS85)Player efficiency ratingIrving - 20.14Walker - 16.82WS/48 (Win shares per 48 minutes)Irving - .128Walker - .093eFG% (FG% adjusted to account for the fact that three's are harder to make but are worth one more point)Irving - 48.0%Walker - 44.1%ORtg (Points Produced per 100 possessions)Irving - 109Walker - 105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I like how taking Kevin Pritchard's leavings, dropping two games overall, and otherwise having the exact same outcome as the previous season (6th seed in Western Conference, unceremonious 6-game posteason exit) is now proof of basketball genius. Haven't the faintest idea why Portland was unimpressed with Cho. Or are we basing that purported acumen on the last two Thunder drafts he was in on? Mind you, year one in OKC was kind of bad too, and year two only landed them the 8 seed and a first round exi....I'm beginning to sense a pattern here. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ateles fusciceps Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Rumors circulating that Utah is making a last second effort & trying to talk Charlotte into a S&T for Hayward before he signs the QO at 12:01AM. They reportedly want Kidd-Gilchrist & Biyombo.I'm sure Cho will agree to send Utah a 20 year old SF who has the most potential on his roster & a 21 year old Center who is already the best rim protector in the NBA in exchange for Hayward.Cho called your bluff Jazz, time to pay up or shut up.you are the worst homer I've ever seen. You say Love, and Irving are far worse than an old wade and bosh, and then say Biyombo is the best rim protector in the league? he had 1 block per game, 4.8 rebounds, 3 points. the guy is a scrub. Then saying Kidd-Gilchrist has the most potential on the roster means he also sucks but maybe could get better.Bismack Biyombo was #1 in the NBA in rim protection. He allowed a league low 38.4 opponent FG% at the rim. Roy Hibbert was 2nd at 41.7%.Per 100 possessions:Biyombo- 17.7 Rebounds, 4.2 BlocksIbaka- 12.8 Rebounds, 4.1 BlocksDwight- 18.0 Rebounds, 2.7 BlocksBiyombo's total numbers are low because he played limited minutes last season. Partially because he's only 21 & had only played basketball for 5 years, and partially because he backs up one of the best post players in the league.Advanced stats say he is the best rim protector in the game. But go ahead, call me a homer and argue against facts and statistics. Weird... because advanced stats say Kyrie Irving is a top ten point guard. Or are those only relevant when they benefit your argument? There is, admittedly, concern with how he handled Cleveland being bad and he did regress last year as a result, but that likely wouldn't be much of a concern with Lebron around.Per 100 Possessions:Kyrie- 43% Fg 30 Pt 5 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 4 TovKemba- 40% Fg 26 Pt 6 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 3 TovKemba is also a much better defender, & doesn't miss 20 games a year due to injury.If Kyrie is a top 10 PG, so is Kemba. (Bringing out my inner CS85)Player efficiency ratingIrving - 20.14Walker - 16.82WS/48 (Win shares per 48 minutes)Irving - .128Walker - .093eFG% (FG% adjusted to account for the fact that three's are harder to make but are worth one more point)Irving - 48.0%Walker - 44.1%ORtg (Points Produced per 100 possessions)Irving - 109Walker - 105Kyrie- another year, another losing recordKemba- 43 wins, playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS729 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Rumors circulating that Utah is making a last second effort & trying to talk Charlotte into a S&T for Hayward before he signs the QO at 12:01AM. They reportedly want Kidd-Gilchrist & Biyombo.I'm sure Cho will agree to send Utah a 20 year old SF who has the most potential on his roster & a 21 year old Center who is already the best rim protector in the NBA in exchange for Hayward.Cho called your bluff Jazz, time to pay up or shut up.you are the worst homer I've ever seen. You say Love, and Irving are far worse than an old wade and bosh, and then say Biyombo is the best rim protector in the league? he had 1 block per game, 4.8 rebounds, 3 points. the guy is a scrub. Then saying Kidd-Gilchrist has the most potential on the roster means he also sucks but maybe could get better.Bismack Biyombo was #1 in the NBA in rim protection. He allowed a league low 38.4 opponent FG% at the rim. Roy Hibbert was 2nd at 41.7%.Per 100 possessions:Biyombo- 17.7 Rebounds, 4.2 BlocksIbaka- 12.8 Rebounds, 4.1 BlocksDwight- 18.0 Rebounds, 2.7 BlocksBiyombo's total numbers are low because he played limited minutes last season. Partially because he's only 21 & had only played basketball for 5 years, and partially because he backs up one of the best post players in the league.Advanced stats say he is the best rim protector in the game. But go ahead, call me a homer and argue against facts and statistics. Weird... because advanced stats say Kyrie Irving is a top ten point guard. Or are those only relevant when they benefit your argument? There is, admittedly, concern with how he handled Cleveland being bad and he did regress last year as a result, but that likely wouldn't be much of a concern with Lebron around.Per 100 Possessions:Kyrie- 43% Fg 30 Pt 5 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 4 TovKemba- 40% Fg 26 Pt 6 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 3 TovKemba is also a much better defender, & doesn't miss 20 games a year due to injury.If Kyrie is a top 10 PG, so is Kemba. (Bringing out my inner CS85)Player efficiency ratingIrving - 20.14Walker - 16.82WS/48 (Win shares per 48 minutes)Irving - .128Walker - .093eFG% (FG% adjusted to account for the fact that three's are harder to make but are worth one more point)Irving - 48.0%Walker - 44.1%ORtg (Points Produced per 100 possessions)Irving - 109Walker - 105Kyrie- another year, another losing recordKemba- 43 wins, playoffsWell technically, Kemba Walker had "Superstar post-player Al-Jefferson" and "Best rim protector in the league Bismack Biyombo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Rumors circulating that Utah is making a last second effort & trying to talk Charlotte into a S&T for Hayward before he signs the QO at 12:01AM. They reportedly want Kidd-Gilchrist & Biyombo.I'm sure Cho will agree to send Utah a 20 year old SF who has the most potential on his roster & a 21 year old Center who is already the best rim protector in the NBA in exchange for Hayward.Cho called your bluff Jazz, time to pay up or shut up.you are the worst homer I've ever seen. You say Love, and Irving are far worse than an old wade and bosh, and then say Biyombo is the best rim protector in the league? he had 1 block per game, 4.8 rebounds, 3 points. the guy is a scrub. Then saying Kidd-Gilchrist has the most potential on the roster means he also sucks but maybe could get better.Bismack Biyombo was #1 in the NBA in rim protection. He allowed a league low 38.4 opponent FG% at the rim. Roy Hibbert was 2nd at 41.7%.Per 100 possessions:Biyombo- 17.7 Rebounds, 4.2 BlocksIbaka- 12.8 Rebounds, 4.1 BlocksDwight- 18.0 Rebounds, 2.7 BlocksBiyombo's total numbers are low because he played limited minutes last season. Partially because he's only 21 & had only played basketball for 5 years, and partially because he backs up one of the best post players in the league.Advanced stats say he is the best rim protector in the game. But go ahead, call me a homer and argue against facts and statistics. Weird... because advanced stats say Kyrie Irving is a top ten point guard. Or are those only relevant when they benefit your argument? There is, admittedly, concern with how he handled Cleveland being bad and he did regress last year as a result, but that likely wouldn't be much of a concern with Lebron around.Per 100 Possessions:Kyrie- 43% Fg 30 Pt 5 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 4 TovKemba- 40% Fg 26 Pt 6 Reb 9 Ast 2 Stl 3 TovKemba is also a much better defender, & doesn't miss 20 games a year due to injury.If Kyrie is a top 10 PG, so is Kemba. (Bringing out my inner CS85)Player efficiency ratingIrving - 20.14Walker - 16.82WS/48 (Win shares per 48 minutes)Irving - .128Walker - .093eFG% (FG% adjusted to account for the fact that three's are harder to make but are worth one more point)Irving - 48.0%Walker - 44.1%ORtg (Points Produced per 100 possessions)Irving - 109Walker - 105Kyrie- another year, another losing recordKemba- 43 wins, playoffsTeam accomplishments aren't an accurate indication of individual abilities or successes. You yourself have claimed that Kemba Walker played with one of the best players in the entire league (and he had the "best rim protector in the NBA" spelling him), didn't you? Surely that would have something to do with Kemba's ability to make the playoffs.edit: Scruggy beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 In how comical the NBA CBA and rules are, Dallas has signed Chandler Parsons to an offer sheet, but they have yet to deliver the offer to Houston, thus the 72 hour clock has not started.Here is the Parsons signing...in a nightclub.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzqWW71EmBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxy8s Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Houston and Dallas are working on a sign and trade. No idea how that benefits anyone but Houston. Now Dallas might have to pay Parsons more, give up assets for him, and give Houston more time so they aren't put in a situation where they have to decide between keeping Parsons or letting him walk in the hopes of Chris Bosh.Edit: ...nvm. Dallas has delivered the offer sheet to Houston. 72 hours to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 i wonder if there is a rule saying you can't have a player sign a contract if they are under the influence of alcohol or drugs, because i feel that rule could have been broken even if it existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The Sixers and Rockets have agreed to a trade that would send Jeremy Lin and a #1 to the Sixers for... well nothing. The Sixers just want the pick and the expiring contract (which highlights what's messed up about the NBA... well, other than guys I've never heard of getting $20M/yr contracts.)The deal is contingent on the Rockets signing a "max deal" FA, presumably Bosh. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltere Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Nothing in the literal sense, or the figurative?Because if it's the former then that fails at the basic nature of being a trade. 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: sorry sweetie, but I don't suck minor-league d CCSLC Post of the day September 3rd 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Stories just said that they agreed to acquire Lin and required a #1 in exchange for taking on the contract. I assume they'll give something back, but nothing has mentioned what. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Soooo this means Bosh to the Rockets, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Soooo this means Bosh to the Rockets, right?Amongst other dominoes that will fall. They have to finalize a trade of Jeremy Lin to open the cap space and Bosh will probably ink this afternoon. Also Woj tweets that the Rockets will match the offer sheet for Parsons. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Houston's going to be real good if everything plays out as expected. This will be the first NBA season I've looked forward to in a while just to see how everything plays out. Any updates on Melo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Houston's going to be real good if everything plays out as expected. This will be the first NBA season I've looked forward to in a while just to see how everything plays out. Any updates on Melo?ESPN reports that Melo is deciding between Knicks and Bulls. Lakers are out.Also from the LeBron thread:Deal has been proposed to Minnesota and Wiggins isn't involved.Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, and a package of picks for Love. There is now another deal in place from Boston for Love. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxy8s Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Stephen A. Smith is reporting that Melo has ruled out the Lakers. He's deciding between the Knicks and Bulls.Bulls would have to win the East with him, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Stephen A. Smith is reporting that Melo has ruled out the Lakers. He's deciding between the Knicks and Bulls.Bulls would have to win the East with him, no?I think the Cavaliers have to be the favorite to win the East if they get Kevin Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Stephen A. Smith is reporting that Melo has ruled out the Lakers. He's deciding between the Knicks and Bulls.Bulls would have to win the East with him, no?Nah. The Bulls haven't proved anything. Even with Carmelo there's always health questions, fatigue issues, and some other bullcrap turmoil that is all self-inflicted. It would help their cause and make them a much better team, but until there is court evidence to counter the known product, I'd be skeptical.Edit:Lin to Lakers soon, it looks likeEdit 2:Dallas looking to sign Deng or ArizaEdit 3: Stein on SC says Bulls may go after Melo and Wade. Why they'd want another knee-less pricetag on their roster is beyond me, but this is the Bulls we're talking about. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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