2014 NCAA Football Thread

[Tigers6884]

Anyone else think that the University of Michigan should hire Jim Harbaugh as their next head coach, if he is offered the job?

He's not coming. Give up.

Being the coach of a college football team is better than not being a coach of any team at all, and I like his coaching style. After the dysfunctional cluster- that has been the Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke eras, it would be nice if Michigan could hire a coach who actually gets good results from his players and doesn't make a damn fool out of himself. In the coaching world the old saying is true, nice coaches do finish last. Jim Harbaugh is a proven winner and he should be hired for this quote alone:

Ok, so, two things.

1) Have you watched the Niners, like, at all this season?

2) You do realize this is Jim Harbaugh you're talking about, right?

So what if the Niners aren't playing well this season? Sounds like front office management has been something of a joke, and the players don't listen to Harbaugh like they should. Jim Harbaugh has taken cellar-dwelling teams like San Diego University, Stanford, and the 49ers and turned them into championship contending teams during his years coaching for each team. While it might take a few years, I believe Harbaugh could pull Michigan out of the hole they seem to be trapped in.

[FiddySicks]

Anyone else think that the University of Michigan should hire Jim Harbaugh as their next head coach, if he is offered the job?

He's not coming. Give up.

Being the coach of a college football team is better than not being a coach of any team at all, and I like his coaching style. After the dysfunctional cluster- that has been the Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke eras, it would be nice if Michigan could hire a coach who actually gets good results from his players and doesn't make a damn fool out of himself. In the coaching world the old saying is true, nice coaches do finish last. Jim Harbaugh is a proven winner and he should be hired for this quote alone:

Ok, so, two things.

1) Have you watched the Niners, like, at all this season?

2) You do realize this is Jim Harbaugh you're talking about, right?

So what if the Niners aren't playing well this season? Sounds like front office management has been something of a joke, and the players don't listen to Harbaugh like they should. Jim Harbaugh has taken cellar-dwelling teams like San Diego University, Stanford, and the 49ers and turned them into championship contending teams during his years coaching for each team. While it might take a few years, I believe Harbaugh could pull Michigan out of the hole they seem to be trapped in.

Granted, I agree with you that a good chunk of the issue has to do with the complete and total incompetence of the cheap ass Yorks (The same owners who tried to charge their players for Gatorade in the locker room), but don't you think it reflects just a little bit poorly on a coach when "The players don't listen to Harbaugh like they should?" And Jim Harbaugh has basically written the book on making a damn fool out of himself. He's definitely turned the Niners around, but I swear it's done something to his head. He's always been the guy who, while talented, is always about one step away from totally Schiano-ing it. Despite their recent success, this Niners team is about a Harbaugh post game locker room pants drop away from being a "dysfunctional cluster :censored:".

And I say this as someone who roots for the Niners and generally likes Jim Harbaugh.

[HedleyLamarr]

Jim has three NFC Championship Game appearances and a Super Bowl appearance in his first three seasons, right? If that's "dysfunction", I'll take it.

Kinda like Matheny with the Baseball Cardinals...be happy with what you have.

[CLEstones]

Anyone else think that the University of Michigan should hire Jim Harbaugh as their next head coach, if he is offered the job?

He's not coming. Give up.

Being the coach of a college football team is better than not being a coach of any team at all, and I like his coaching style. After the dysfunctional cluster- that has been the Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke eras, it would be nice if Michigan could hire a coach who actually gets good results from his players and doesn't make a damn fool out of himself. In the coaching world the old saying is true, nice coaches do finish last. Jim Harbaugh is a proven winner and he should be hired for this quote alone:

Ok, so, two things.

1) Have you watched the Niners, like, at all this season?

2) You do realize this is Jim Harbaugh you're talking about, right?

So what if the Niners aren't playing well this season? Sounds like front office management has been something of a joke, and the players don't listen to Harbaugh like they should. Jim Harbaugh has taken cellar-dwelling teams like San Diego University, Stanford, and the 49ers and turned them into championship contending teams during his years coaching for each team. While it might take a few years, I believe Harbaugh could pull Michigan out of the hole they seem to be trapped in.

Granted, I agree with you that a good chunk of the issue has to do with the complete and total incompetence of the cheap ass Yorks (The same owners who tried to charge their players for Gatorade in the locker room), but don't you think it reflects just a little bit poorly on a coach when "The players don't listen to Harbaugh like they should?" And Jim Harbaugh has basically written the book on making a damn fool out of himself. He's definitely turned the Niners around, but I swear it's done something to his head. He's always been the guy who, while talented, is always about one step away from totally Schiano-ing it. Despite their recent success, this Niners team is about a Harbaugh post game locker room pants drop away from being a "dysfunctional cluster :censored:".

And I say this as someone who roots for the Niners and generally likes Jim Harbaugh.

Making a fool out of yourself and winning isn't an issue. Making a fool out of yourself and losing is an issue (Hoke).

Letting go of Rich Rod was a huge mistake, in my opinion. Rich Rod was his own worst enemy, trying to completely tear down the program and rebuild it from its bootstraps. No one questions that he had to tear it down completely, but the Michigan fan base didn't understand that. They wanted to remain "competitive" while Rodriguez rebuilt. I think another 2 years (5 total) and Michigan would have been a power house under him. Look at what he is doing at Arizona. You mean to tell me he couldn't do the same thing in the Maize and Blue... with Michigan's brand and recruiting power?

The "success" Hoke had in his first 2 years were with Rich Rod recruits. I think Hoke is completely out of his league in major college football. He may be able to recruit well, but his players don't get much better while they are at Michigan. That is a huge issue. Sure, they may get better... but none of them seem to take that big step, or make a big jump, to being one of those big time, elite players. That is Hoke's downfall.

Personally, I would love to see either of the Harbaugh's at Michigan. I think they could bring a winner back to Michigan. The B1G TEN needs Michigan to be more than just good. Ohio State needs Michigan to be more than just good. College football is better when Michigan is more than just good.

[Lights Out]

Jim Harbaugh reminds me a bit of Marty Schottenheimer. Great at teaching bad teams how to win, but his act wears thin quickly once the turnaround is complete.

[CLEstones]

Jim Harbaugh reminds me a bit of Marty Schottenheimer. Great at teaching bad teams how to win, but his act wears thin quickly once the turnaround is complete.

Ask any Big Blue fan what they would rather have: Turning around the program and being relevant again... or 4 or 5 losses per season, and continuing to lose against Ohio State.

[Sport]

I think if most intelligent Ohio State fans (oxymoron harhar) were being honest with themselves they'd say they want to see Michigan turn it around again. There's no fun in hating Brady Hoke because he's such a jackass and he's destroying the program from within. Harbaugh, though....Now there's a guy the Buckeyes fanbase could truly despise and they already do. My mom is a saint and she'd spit on Jim Harbaugh if she got the chance.

I said this a few weeks ago, but the rivalry has lost its luster, bite, and fun because Michigan can't get out of their own way.

[Billy B]

Anyone else think that the University of Michigan should hire Jim Harbaugh as their next head coach, if he is offered the job?

He's not coming. Give up.

Being the coach of a college football team is better than not being a coach of any team at all, and I like his coaching style. After the dysfunctional cluster- that has been the Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke eras, it would be nice if Michigan could hire a coach who actually gets good results from his players and doesn't make a damn fool out of himself. In the coaching world the old saying is true, nice coaches do finish last. Jim Harbaugh is a proven winner and he should be hired for this quote alone:

Ok, so, two things.

1) Have you watched the Niners, like, at all this season?

2) You do realize this is Jim Harbaugh you're talking about, right?

So what if the Niners aren't playing well this season? Sounds like front office management has been something of a joke, and the players don't listen to Harbaugh like they should. Jim Harbaugh has taken cellar-dwelling teams like San Diego University, Stanford, and the 49ers and turned them into championship contending teams during his years coaching for each team. While it might take a few years, I believe Harbaugh could pull Michigan out of the hole they seem to be trapped in.

1) Harbaugh won't be out of a coaching job next year unless he wants to be. A lot of coaches also don't want to go back to college. Recruiting, dealing with boosters, and being responsible for 18-22 year olds is a lot more involved than an NFL job while getting paid less.

2) The players not buying in to what the coach is saying usually means the coach isn't doing something right.

3) People usually don't care if a coach makes a fool out of himself if he wins. Tim Beckman gets caught dipping on the sidelines and had one win in 3 years? People bring it up all the time. If he actually started winning, people wouldn't care at all that he looked like an idiot in year one.

4) It's great that Harbaugh is a "Michigan Man" and all, but that should be one of the last factors looked at while evaluating candidates.

[CLEstones]

I think if most intelligent Ohio State fans (oxymoron harhar) were being honest with themselves they'd say they want to see Michigan turn it around again. There's no fun in hating Brady Hoke because he's such a jackass and he's destroying the program from within. Harbaugh, though....Now there's a guy the Buckeyes fanbase could truly despise and they already do. My mom is a saint and she'd spit on Jim Harbaugh if she got the chance.

I said this a few weeks ago, but the rivalry has lost its luster, bite, and fun because Michigan can't get out of their own way.

Agreed. When Michigan is better, Ohio State is better. When Michigan is better, the B1G TEN is better. When Michigan is better, college football is better.

[Sanic]

Is it bad to have a "second team" in terms of CFB, since there's like 100+ teams?

[JayMac]

Is it bad to have a "second team" in terms of CFB, since there's like 100+ teams?

I don't think so. Then again, I don't think it's wrong to have a second favorite in a any sport.

[PSUcelticsWON95]

Is it bad to have a "second team" in terms of CFB, since there's like 100+ teams?

I don't think so. Then again, I don't think it's wrong to have a second favorite in a any sport.

I have a lot of teams that I like. Penn State is my favorite by far, but I also consistently root for Oklahoma, Florida State, Oregon, Colorado, and I like to see many more teams win.

[alxy8s]

Is it bad to have a "second team" in terms of CFB, since there's like 100+ teams?

Root for whatever you want.

I have a "second team," but it's a pretty distant second. I don't really know how anyone can root for both members of a rivalry or have 2+ teams with whom they "live and die," but to each his own.

[crashcarson15]

Anyone else think that the University of Michigan should hire Jim Harbaugh as their next head coach, if he is offered the job?

I'd hope they'd hire him after they offered him the job...

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In college, I totally think it's cool to have multiple schools — especially where you've got ties to a few. My parents both did undergrad at Youngstown State so I'll root for the 'Guins — was at Saturday's game in fact. My mother holds a Master's from Ball State so I like to see them do well. I could use that as a reason to back them full-time but, meh, I don't really follow them that hard.

Of course, I go to Notre Dame but was also raised an Irish fan. My dad's grandfather — as a Catholic that turned 20 the year ND won its first national title – was a huge fan. My dad ended up picking up the allegiance and growing up a little over two hours from campus meant that we made at least one trip up to South Bend each year.

I'll be after a Master's degree when I'm done with undergrad — I'll probably do that at Notre Dame but if I did it elsewhere, I'd have another school to pull for.

Granted, nothing will top ND but hey.

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Speaking of Notre Dame... really excited for the rest of the season. At the very least, Saturday's made the list of "teams to root against the rest of the year" a hell of a lot longer.

I'm not miffed about them missing the player taking off his helmet. It would've been first-and-goal from the 9 and I like our chances with 13 seconds on the clock but fundamentally, that's the least-important thing that happened on that play. Ready to be done talking about it though.

[sportstar1212]

I see nothing wrong with supporting two teams, as long as they're in different conferences (or states). I cheer for Michigan State because my uncle has his MBA from there. I also used to like Florida when Tebow was there, but I don't really care about them anymore.

Obviously, I'll adopt whatever school I end up going to next year, and right now I really want to go to Ohio State. So that means I'll have to drop them if I do end up going there, since they're both in the same conference. But if I go somewhere else, I'll still keep Sparty as my second team.

[DS729]

I see nothing wrong with supporting two teams, as long as they're in different conferences (or states). I cheer for Michigan State because my uncle has his MBA from there. I also used to like Florida when Tebow was there, but I don't really care about them anymore.

Obviously, I'll adopt whatever school I end up going to next year, and right now I really want to go to Ohio State. So that means I'll have to drop them if I do end up going there, since they're both in the same conference. But if I go somewhere else, I'll still keep Sparty as my second team.

I wouldn't even stretch it that far... I think it's perfectly fine to like 2 teams from the same conference as long as they're not direct, insane rivals (i.e. Ohio State-Michigan, Alabama-Auburn)

My own allegiance is to Virginia Tech, my whole father's side has roots to school from literally the day it opened (my great-great grandparents were 1874 graduates!.) as well as my brother is a student there. My mother's side is a bit more broad, but it has mostly JMU and UVA ties. I like JMU, I'm not going to go to any of their games anytime soon, but if I spot them somewhere, I hope they win. But I really can't like UVA and Tech, so a line had to be drawn there. Case and point, my father got his masters at NC State after he was done with Tech. There's no blood feud between Tech and State, since they really only play each other once every 2-3 years in opposite divisions, so I support the Wolfpack against any other ACC team besides the Hokies.

[hailstateunis]

Having two teams is okay. What's not okay is cheering for USC in the early 2000s, cheering for Florida in the late 2000s, cheering for Alabama for the last 5 years, etc....

As for me, besides Mississppi State, I'll cheer for Southern Miss because I live an hour away from it. I'll generally cheer for the more likable team otherwise. This is really the first year I've had a team in the national spotlight.

[FiddySicks]

In college, I feel like you kinda have to have multiple allegiances at least in some ways. I grew up just outside of Reno, so I'm a huge Nevada Wolf Pack fan, but I'm also an Arizona State student. I may do grad work at another major PAC 12 school (not sure which one yet, though), so I'll be affiliated with them too. I also grew up in a family of DIE HARD Tennessee Volunteers fans, so that allegiance won't ever totally die.

Plus, you gotta root for certain other teams just due to the nature of how much another competing team can effect your position.

Plus, yeah. Root for whoever you want because it's your life and nobody should tell you how to live it.

Oh, but don't ever root for Arizona. They suck.

[BlackBolt3]

Yeah, you can have two+ different teams. College sports are very "pick-up", for lack of a better word. For my whole life, I've been a Wake Forest fan. In March, my brother receives an orange acceptance letter from Clemson, and now I'm down in Death Valley every home game. So, as long as you don't jump around teams like a fly in a dead cow, it's fine.

[Billy B]

Just don't cheer against the school you attend. Those people are the worst.