C's Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 So slightly unbalanced conferences (an issue, sure) is a bigger problem than putting a team in a market that WILL NOT WORK and have the franchise become an epic fail. I know it's an owner that said it but all know the head honchos feel that way as well. I don't understand the NHL. I think there's an acronym for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I'm still looking forward to seeing Arizona's new uniforms. Hopefully we'll see a new unveiling not long after that.I wonder if/ hope they'll bring back the original set just to maybe use the nostalgia factor to try to breathe some life into the team and bring back some fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers6884 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I'm still looking forward to seeing Arizona's new uniforms. Hopefully we'll see a new unveiling not long after that.Hey guys, their new jerseys were unveiled today!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I'm still looking forward to seeing Arizona's new uniforms. Hopefully we'll see a new unveiling not long after that.Hey guys, their new jerseys were unveiled today!!!That looks like a christmas sweater my aunt bought me when I was in school. It didn't have a seattle 'S' but it had a similar pattern. Quote Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 As much as I love to see hockey (or any sport) thrive in non-traditional markets, it's just not going to nor will it ever in Phoenix. Move the franchise somewhere it will be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Seattle Mets Quote www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 As much as I love to see hockey (or any sport) thrive in non-traditional markets, it's just not going to nor will it ever in Phoenix. Move the franchise somewhere it will be successful.You don't have to worry about them being in a successful situation. The franchise is moving to Las Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan33 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm still looking forward to seeing Arizona's new uniforms. Hopefully we'll see a new unveiling not long after that.Hey guys, their new jerseys were unveiled today!!!If that does happen, hopefully they do better with the uniforms. These are just garish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Thought this would get more notice/traction in this thread. From DarkJourney in the NFL Merry-Go-Round thread: From Field of Schemes:San Jose could be about to approve $100m+ in lease breaks for Sharks in exchange for diddly-squat Posted on May 18, 2015 by Neil deMause The San Jose city council is set to vote tomorrow on a lease extension for the Sharks on their current arena while talking about whether to build a new one. You can read the proposal here; it’s a bit convoluted and I haven’t made sense of it all yet, but Marc Morris of Better Sense San Jose has sent along his analysis, which is this: 1. The Sharks get immediate relief from previously obligated rent payments (total reduction is $7.25M = $2M for the Arena and $5.25M for the Ice Center, where the Sharks and their new AHL farm team practice). 2. Starting in 2018, the Sharks stop paying any rent at all (that’s $0 per year) for the city owned Arena, down from roughly $5M per year. 3. The City in the short term kicks in $6M and then, starting in 2018, pays $2.6M for ‘capital and modernization needs’ for the Arena. That of course will be financed by the $0 a year rent. 4. The Sharks get to spend a lot of this ‘capital’ money for revenue enhancing improvements; for its efforts, the City gets precisely none of the enhanced revenue. 5. Just to rub it in, the agreement also explicitly prohibits the City from getting any new revenue from its own Arena, like maybe adding a ticket tax. 6. It appears that the City will take on the interest rate risk for the bonds on the Ice Center, making the current ultra-low rates the new baseline for the rent calculation. After all, there’s little to no probability that rates will go up in the next 10 to 20 years. 7. And, although this never gets mentioned, the City will continue to pay over $10M a year in interest on the bonds that paid for construction of the Arena in the first place. In the best case, the net loss to the City from the Arena is over $8M a year. Like I said, I haven’t done the math on this myself, but if Morris is correct, that could easily be more than $100 million in concessions that the city would be providing to the Sharks — all for a team that doesn’t have an immediate alternative option to play in, and which isn’t even agreeing to a long-term lease deal in exchange. (They’d have to stay put through 2025, but it’s unlikely they could get a new arena built much before then anyway.) That’s the kind of thing you might think you’d want to have a hearing on, or even a financial study, before voting on whether to approve it, but that’s apparently not the way the San Jose city council rolls. So the Sharks would pull a Red Wings and stop paying rent in 2018, all while essentially getting an extra $100 million out of the city, all the while trying to edge for a NEW arena? A lot of things wrong with this, most of all that Tank needs a replacement. I mean, I guess they're talking about 10 years down the road. But besides it's sterility and brightness, the Shark Tank is a fine facility. Quote | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I donno. I'd vote to toss them $25 or so they can buy a CD with a better goal song. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 There's the real reason they dropped hem stripes and three layer twill numbers - couldn't afford em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Former Islanders "owner" pleads guilty to forgery charges.http://sports.yahoo.com/news/man-scammed-nhl-pleads-guilty-forgery-charges-ohio-140613921--nhl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Former Islanders "owner" pleads guilty to forgery charges.http://sports.yahoo.com/news/man-scammed-nhl-pleads-guilty-forgery-charges-ohio-140613921--nhl.htmlClearly Spano is at a maniacal level of thinking he's above the law and maybe white collar, minimum security prison isn't really that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 John Spano is the ultimate conman Quote www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Nick Foligno is offically the new "Captain" of the Blue Jackets. Couldn't of picked a better guy in my opinion. Can't wait for next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 John Spano is the ultimate conmanThe fact that he's been caught says otherwise. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Nick Foligno is offically the new "Captain" of the Blue Jackets. Couldn't of picked a better guy in my opinion. Can't wait for next season!You accidentally posted this in the correct thread. 2 Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's been a while...http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/glendale/2015/05/26/glendale-arizona-coyotes-attendance-revenue-dips-arena/27792029/But the losses suffered by the city of Glendale and the ole Jobberdome have increased. Shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Jim Rutherford is so incompetent that he can't even game the OITGDNHL system of demanding compensation for people you fired: When the Buffalo Sabres hired Dan Bylsma to serve as the team’s bench boss, they agreed to provide the Pittsburgh Penguins with a third-round draft pick as compensation. That’s because Bylsma was still under contract with the Penguins, even though he had been fired. And yet the Penguins didn’t seek compensation when the New Jersey Devils hired Ray Shero under similar circumstances. So why the double standard? “The rule is not as clear as it should be,” Penguins GM Jim Rutherford told Trib Total Media. “We felt that the intent of the rule was for employees that were still with the team, that were working with the team, not terminated employees. “Once Edmonton (gave Boston) a pick for (former Bruins GM) Peter Chiarelli — when he was a terminated employee — we decided to ask for picks for future employees.” In Rutherford's rickety defense, it really is a stupid system. Thank the Red Wings for being so butthurt over Jim Nill boogieing off to Dallas to build a team with no defensemen. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Friedman: 11. One last note about meetings: expect to see some clarification on the compensation issue when the GMs and Board of Governors sit down in Las Vegas. Some of the biggest supporters of the idea didn’t expect it to involve Dan Bylsma or Peter Chiarelli, who were fired by their previous teams. Mike Babcock? Yes. No question. The wildcard in all this is one exec said Commissioner Gary Bettman made it very clear he wanted a black-and-white rule without controversy, which didn’t happen. Could he scrap it altogether? Not sure, and, right now, he’s got other things to worry about. I also wondered if it’s possible Buffalo and Edmonton could get their picks back, but there’s no answer at this point. But I do think the fired-employee issue gets cleared up. They didn't read the terms before they voted for it, did they. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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