DarkJourney Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Here's a panorama of the Kings/Coyotes game yesterday:Yeah, no way in hell is that 7,000 peopleI don't even think that's 1,200 peopleIf Bettman still insists on keeping this team in Phoenix he needs to be locked in a small box for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Maybe they did like they do for wrestling shows, and pack one side of the house and fill in the other as time goes on. Quote Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Maybe they did like they do for wrestling shows, and pack one side of the house and fill in the other as time goes on.I like the premise. It'd make more sense to fill the side you're looking at in the picture. That's the TV broadcast angle.I don't know why they'd have people sit in the upper deck if the entire population of the arena could half-fill the lower bowl. Give everyone a seat upgrade. Who is it hurting? Just you, Coyotes. Quote | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Just to be clear, the proposal in Columbus is not a "tax-payer bailout". They're using a small portion of the will-be tax revenue from the new casino to purchase the arena. Nobody will have to pay more taxes to buy the arena from Nationwide Insurance (so that the Blue Jackets aren't handcuffed by a lease twice as much as other teams pay). Nationwide is also investing 52 million of its own dollars into the team to become a 30% owner. Noone is going to pay an extra cent in taxes to "save the Blue Jackets". They're decreasing the burden of the financial problems onset by the arena expenses towards the team and they're doing it without increasing taxes and without taking away the money previously earmarked for schools, fire, police etc. They'll all get theirs too. It's actually a pretty creative solution if you ask me and nobody is really hurt by it.I dunno, "creative financing" has become kind of a euphemism for "bullsh-t," and not wrongly so. I mean, this isn't exactly the found money it's being made out to be, either. You can say that this isn't directly taking away from money earmarked for public services, but operating under the premise that government pretty much always runs a deficit, what happens if actual public services require additional funding while tax dollars have already been committed to buying a playplace for a sports team? What happens if the casino doesn't bring in the projected tax revenue? There are hidden costs and unintended consequences with everything once you start getting the government involved in sports facilities; none of this can ever be as cut and dried as "we took out a loan and paid it off" like Palace of Auburn Hills/United Center/TD Garden/etc. Maybe this is just the simple cheapass midwesterner in me that can't comprehend what them there fancy number men in tall towers do.Maybe, but you just kept calling it a tax-payer bailout and it's not. So, that's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Here's a panorama of the Kings/Coyotes game yesterday:Yeah, no way in hell is that 7,000 peopleMaybe its 7,000 paid and not 7,000 attenders? Or they are counting the concessions employees in that number. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Do you really think they have 5,500 employees working at each game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Do you really think they have 5,500 employees working at each game?Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the use of sarcasm? Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Do you really think they have 5,500 employees working at each game?Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the use of sarcasm? I understand. I was just pointing out that there was at best 1/3 of the announced attendees in the actual stadium. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here and say that picture was taken during warmup, but there can't be more than 500 people in the seats right then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Do you really think they have 5,500 employees working at each game?Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the use of sarcasm? I understand. I was just pointing out that there was at best 1/3 of the annouced addentee in the actual stadium. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here and say that picture was taken during warmup, but there can't be more than 500 people in the seats right then.Unfortunately that pic is not from warm ups. Notice the position of the players on the ice, not to mention the refs. Sadly that is game action. Quote PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I like to think they're counting people Gary Bettman imagines were there. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Holy crap. That's ridiculous. This looks really bad for the sport. You can't even give the "all the season ticketholders no-showed but that upper deck was a madhouse" excuse. There's no one up there, either! Pathetic. It's done. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njmeadowlanders Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Do you really think they have 5,500 employees working at each game?Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the use of sarcasm? I understand. I was just pointing out that there was at best 1/3 of the annouced addentee in the actual stadium. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here and say that picture was taken during warmup, but there can't be more than 500 people in the seats right then.Unfortunately that pic is not from warm ups. Notice the position of the players on the ice, not to mention the refs. Sadly that is game action.If you zoom in you can see there's 17-someodd minutes to play in the first. Also the benches are full which wouldn't happen in warmups.Hello Les Nordiques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Here's a panorama of the Kings/Coyotes game yesterday:Yeah, no way in hell is that 7,000 peopleHoo boy.... The local govt paid how much & how many season tickets were sold?Viva Le Quebec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 The worst part of that picture is that we're going to be seeing it repeated a year from now, while the Stars, Blues, or Blue Jackets are filling up Le Colisee. Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Found on this on the HFboards but no source...Although Gretzky said he isn't returning to the NHL anytime soon, he believes that Quebec City could be awarded a team in the near future."I anticipate and expect that around the corner you will probably see Quebec City in the National Hockey League. I don't know when but I just have a feeling they will be back," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 The Blues have a verbal agreement with Hulsizer. I think with him controlling the arena, the new Peabody Operahouse opening (attached to the Scottrade Center), and him living an hour plane ride away in Chicago, that the Blues aren't going anywhere. At least that's what I'm going to keep telling myself.The Stars are in a planned bankruptcy, and a guy in Vancouver is the only one who has shown interest. He also gets half of the AAC, which is not as lucrative if he moves the Stars. So I think they will be fine.In Columbus, the city is taking casino revenue, buying Nationwide Arena, and Nationwide insurance will then take that money and invest in the team. This locks the Blue Jackets into Columus until 2039.So Gary, just move the Coyotes already to Quebec City and be done with it. Quote "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Once the Coyotes move to Quebec (Bettman wake up bro!) hopefully the NHL can stabilize and avoid anymore franchises relocating. I agree with DaytonBlue about Columbus, Dallas and St. Louis. I think they will be alright in the long run. The Florida Panthers might be the only other team I could see relocating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The Blues have a verbal agreement with Hulsizer. I think with him controlling the arena, the new Peabody Operahouse opening (attached to the Scottrade Center), and him living an hour plane ride away in Chicago, that the Blues aren't going anywhere. At least that's what I'm going to keep telling myself.Except for the whole "Everything is now owned by a purported Nigerian Prince" problem. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 November 31, 2005ATTN: FansWell come Blues fans!I can guaranty you that the St. Louis Blues ixperience will be vastly emproved. All so, we plan on maxamizing revenues by recaliberating strategic price points thruout the arena.All so, I need tax money.You'res truly,Matt Huslizer Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcan'tseeme Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Purchased the Nordiques jersey yeserday, lets get this support rain roling like we had in Winnipeg. We'll then get Florida into Hartford, and our work is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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