Digby Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, FiddySicks said: I have to wonder though if local corporate money would be an issue with SLC. it’s basically beginning and ending with: how much money can we convince Ryan Smith to contribute? My big takeaway from this conversation is that there aren’t really any good ideas for expansion or relocation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowler2 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I think the Carolinas (Charlotte or Raleigh) is probably the best spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 There is 0.0% chance of a permanent MLB team in SLC. I'll change my user name to "I__am_a_flaming_Dbag" for a year (like we made that one guy do) if it happens. Let's take it to the next level: "I_am_a_flaming_communist_dbag_whore". We can pressure the 30ish members of the XII to get that cleared. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, BBTV said: There is 0.0% chance of a permanent MLB team in SLC. I'll change my user name to "I__am_a_flaming_Dbag" for a year (like we made that one guy do) if it happens. Let's take it to the next level: "I_am_a_flaming_communist_dbag_whore". We can pressure the 30ish members of the XII to get that cleared. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 3/1/2024 at 5:56 PM, pmoehrin said: I agree with most of what the Census Bureau does, but I don't know why Raleigh and Durham would be considered two separate metro areas. They share an airport, it's less than 30 miles between the two cities, and there's no natural or state border diving the two cities. Chatman County is considered part of the Durham metro area, but it's no further to get to Durham than to get to Raleigh from there. They don't separate Tacoma from Seattle on a metro level, and they're just as far apart from each other. Maybe someone from the area can explain because I don't get it. I am from the area and I don't consider Durham to be in the Raleigh metro but I can't fully explain why. Also, I think Raleigh would be a better market for MLB than Charlotte. Charlotte is less risky because of its much larger population and is overall a nicer city. But Raleigh has clearly shown itself to be a far superior sports market. The area has a top 5 in attendance NHL team, a top 5 in attendance MiLB team, and 2-3 college basketball and football teams that get high pro level support. Charlotte's two teams are notoriously two of the least supported teams in their leagues. And I say that as a fan of both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, throwuascenario said: I am from the area and I don't consider Durham to be in the Raleigh metro but I can't fully explain why. There is a clear difference between what the two regions do. Raleigh is a traditional, modern American city. Office-centric and with numerous research hubs in the surrounding area, just like Charlotte. Durham is a clear manufacturing hub that also specializes in pharmaceuticals and healthcare. Duke has a medical school, NC State does not. But even these tend to bring in a lot of blue-collar jobs. You still need people to mop the floors of the hospitals and labs and provide cafeteria food. There is a clear difference there, but the same dynamic exists in many other places where the metro areas aren't split. That's why I'm curious as to why here but not there. They're in the same state, share the same airport, and I don't see a natural geographic border. 540 appears to be the effective border between the two cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 G'dA's, mate! 3 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrutigerAero Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Pretty exciting to see an MLB concept not from populus, the company that has designed basically every other stadium the past 20 years. I really like it. It's a really smart use of natural light and everything. Well done on their part. Still is strange how they have not released as detailed plans as the Kansas City Royals (who had a great concept that isn't even approved yet). Ballys initially claimed that they were building a big casino next to this so strange to hear silence from them on this, as I had assumed we were waiting on them for more stadium details. Brodie Brazil will be asking where the casino is and if this can really fit on 9 acres lol. However, I'm not a pure hater. As an architectural concept for a baseball stadium on the strip it's really good. Trying to look like the Sydney Opera House fits into Vegas' fakery and the view is really good, I didn't think they would manage a view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, TrueYankee26 said: I was just gonna bring this up in a joke about how Las Vegas houses replicas of other well-known international structures (Statue of Liberty, Eiffel Tower). "We'll have the Sydney Opera House, too!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Burmy said: G'dA's, mate! Just one rule MLB fans should request from this ballpark: Ban Zack Hample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I am so, so tired of gigantic screens bigger than the playing surface. Everyone has tiny screens and then there's also huge screens. It's all too much. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Digby said: I am so, so tired of gigantic screens bigger than the playing surface. Everyone has tiny screens and then there's also huge screens. It's all too much. Yep. I've been refraining from commenting on the new stadium renderings because I'm just so damn defeated about the whole thing, but I'm glad to see someone else express the sentiment. The big screen is just something folks look at occasionally when they look up from their little screens. The game is taking place in front of us. Do we really need a big screen the size of the entire outfield to watch the game on? Just look in front of you! I'm also quite certain a good chunk of this screen space will soon enough be used for sports betting graphics. Not just in Vegas, not just in MLB, but in all sports. Live betting at the game. Anyway, I'm only in my early 30's and feel like an old man yelling at a cloud. 2 Quote https://www.behance.net/bmatukewic8043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I’m just amazed that the ballpark with the best view of the New York skyline will be 2,500 miles from New York. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 They should just let Caesar's have the team and make the stadium a replica of the Roman Coliseum 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 21 hours ago, FrutigerAero said: Ballys initially claimed that they were building a big casino next to this so strange to hear silence from them on this, as I had assumed we were waiting on them for more stadium details. Brodie Brazil will be asking where the casino is and if this can really fit on 9 acres lol. However, I'm not a pure hater. As an architectural concept for a baseball stadium on the strip it's really good. Trying to look like the Sydney Opera House fits into Vegas' fakery and the view is really good, I didn't think they would manage a view. These renderings underwhelm me mainly because of the absence of what Gaming and Leisure Properties, Inc. (the ultimate owner of that 35-acre plot of land) and Bally's might build next to the ballpark. To me, that detail — or lack thereof — prevents the renderings from having a discernible sense of scale and thus keeps alive the big question of whether the ballpark can and does genuinely fit in a mere nine-acre corner of the plot, with a new Bally's-operated resort presumably filling the other 26 acres. On another note, while some contributors to this thread have discussed the proposed ballpark's resemblance to the Sydney Opera House, it should be noted also that the head of one of the architecture firms for the project claims that (a) the shape of traditional baseball pennants inspired the roof and (b) the ballpark's overall design resembles a "spherical" armadillo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 16 minutes ago, Walk-Off said: it should be noted also that... the ballpark's overall design resembles a "spherical" armadillo. From the Oakland Athletics to the Las Vegas Armadillos, while still being dubbed the A's. At the very least, perhaps we'll see the A's adopting an alternate mark that replaces an elephant standing atop a baseball with an armadillo mounting a baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Brian in Boston said: From the Oakland Athletics to the Las Vegas Armadillos, while still being dubbed the A's. At the very least, perhaps we'll see the A's adopting an alternate mark that replaces an elephant standing atop a baseball with an armadillo mounting a baseball. An armadillo-baseball concept is kind of cool but the prospect of that as the basis for a creepy, uncanny, bastardized A's rebrand is nauseating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Digby said: An armadillo-baseball concept is kind of cool but the prospect of that as the basis for a creepy, uncanny, bastardized A's rebrand is nauseating. I was only joking... though I wouldn't put anything past the clown car of a pro sports franchise that is the John Fisher-owned Athletics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 22 hours ago, pmoehrin said: There is a clear difference between what the two regions do. Raleigh is a traditional, modern American city. Office-centric and with numerous research hubs in the surrounding area, just like Charlotte. Durham is a clear manufacturing hub that also specializes in pharmaceuticals and healthcare. Duke has a medical school, NC State does not. But even these tend to bring in a lot of blue-collar jobs. You still need people to mop the floors of the hospitals and labs and provide cafeteria food. There is a clear difference there, but the same dynamic exists in many other places where the metro areas aren't split. That's why I'm curious as to why here but not there. They're in the same state, share the same airport, and I don't see a natural geographic border. 540 appears to be the effective border between the two cities. People just didn't seem to live in Durham and work in Raleigh or vice versa in the numbers that I would consider necessary to be considered part of the same metro. Cary, Apex, Morrisville all have so much intermingling between residents, employers, and things to do and that just doesn't seem to be the case in Durham. I haven't done any research on this though, this is just how it seemed to me when I lived there as a child and a teenager. People seemed to always be travelling between Raleigh and all of those western suburbs but I'd rarely hear of anyone going to or coming from Durham for any reason besides a baseball game or a musical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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