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I always liked the Lambeau renovations. Amazing that the Packers did that while the Bears were doing Parthenon Spaceship. On second thought, no it isn't.

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43 minutes ago, TBGKon said:

Bring this back on topic.  Pinellas County has joined the City of St Petersburg in approving the Rays new stadium partnership.

 

Pinellas County BCC approves historic Rays stadium partnership

 

Groundbreaking is expected to be January 2025 with a goal of opening for the beginning of the 2028 season.

 

The Rays Stadium saga has finally ended.  

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2 hours ago, GDAWG said:

The Rays Stadium saga has finally ended.  

 

How many of us really thought it'd turn out like this? Especially when this thread started? It felt like a forgone conclusion at one point a move to Orlando, Montreal or Nashville felt imminent. 

 

I doubt this thread will truly die, especially with the A's situation. I bet we're far from done with that saga. It just feels like we're going to get some major curveballs before they get into a permanent stadium.

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1 hour ago, kolob said:

 

How many of us really thought it'd turn out like this? Especially when this thread started? It felt like a forgone conclusion at one point a move to Orlando, Montreal or Nashville felt imminent. 

 

I doubt this thread will truly die, especially with the A's situation. I bet we're far from done with that saga. It just feels like we're going to get some major curveballs before they get into a permanent stadium.

I will say in a sense it feels anti-climatic that after all the drama that I've seen in the area over the stadium situation, the solution was basically just moving a few feet into what is now parking lot. Tampa and St. Pete had a war of words, and even Oldsmar threw their hat into the ring, and I'm just understating the drama involved. I guess it adds to the anti-climatic nature that the final votes got overshadowed by the trade deadline. That said, the closest they came to threatening to leave the area was the hair-brained "Sister Cities" plan with Montreal which rightly got laughed at by Manfred and the PA. In the end after that plan got thrown into the garbage the combination of that plan getting thrown out, Manfred essentially saying they didn't want the TV market to be lost, St Pete's new mayor being willing to meet the Rays demands (land and development rights), and the fact the 2027 lease expiration date was getting closer led to the perfect storm of this solution. Of course the cynical part of me says we might be back here in this thread in the 2050s. We shall see. 

 

As for our green and gold friends in Oakland Sacramento? Las Vegas? I have a feeling we're going to be in here a while talking about them.

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The next decade or two is going to be telling in regards to their attendance. The new ballpark takes away one reasoning to their low numbers, so if they continue to struggle then that should give us more insight into what is the larger problem.

 

None the less, this was clearly the most jarring issue they had and I'm glad they got it taken care of.

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3 hours ago, kolob said:

How many of us really thought it'd turn out like this? Especially when this thread started? It felt like a forgone conclusion at one point a move to Orlando, Montreal or Nashville felt imminent. 

 

I never thought any big moves would happen. Orlando intrigued me, but I had a feeling there was always going to be an AL presence somewhere in that part of Florida. What I didn't think would happen would be following up years and years of pointing out all the infrastructural and demographic issues with their location in St. Petersburg and then claiming the problem was solved by building a new place right next to their location in St. Petersburg. I really thought they'd wind up close to the Bolts.

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7 hours ago, LMU said:

Only time will tell if the new St. Pete park will be as much of a white elephant as Miami is dealing with, 

Marlins Park was plunked down at the site of the old Orange Bowl, surrounded by residential and not much else to draw in other than the ballpark.  The Rays ballpark is at least downtown adjacent and will have other surrounding businesses and entertainment for the offseason times.

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40 minutes ago, TBGKon said:

Marlins Park was plunked down at the site of the old Orange Bowl, surrounded by residential and not much else to draw in other than the ballpark.  The Rays ballpark is at least downtown adjacent and will have other surrounding businesses and entertainment for the offseason times.

 

Yeah Marlins Park is in a very weird spot. I don't imagine there's a whole lot of free real estate downtown or really anywhere along the oceanfront, but a stadium along the ocean in Miami would be awesome.

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4 hours ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

 

Yeah Marlins Park is in a very weird spot. I don't imagine there's a whole lot of free real estate downtown or really anywhere along the oceanfront, but a stadium along the ocean in Miami would be awesome.

I know that long before the current Marlins ballpark was built, there were considerations to build at the city park just north of the Heat arena on the harbor.  I don't know why that fell apart, but that would have been the best waterfront option.

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3 hours ago, TBGKon said:

I know that long before the current Marlins ballpark was built, there were considerations to build at the city park just north of the Heat arena on the harbor.  I don't know why that fell apart

Me neither but I am staring in the direction of Jeffrey Loria and David Samson

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38 minutes ago, schlim said:

That rendering looks like something some overly ambitious middle manager put together in SimCity.

 

It's just the real rendering (minus the tower) copied and pasted onto the waterfront.

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