DNAsports 5,424 Posted September 16, 2019 If Tampa Bay does get new uniforms, I have a feeling they’ll end up doing what Jacksonville did. Overcompensate and remove all the life out of the uniform. No, I’m not saying the Jaguars had or have good uniforms. They just went too simplistic and Tampa Bay could be in danger of following suit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBTV 19,476 Posted September 16, 2019 7 hours ago, habsfan1 said: Sports Logos News: All the changes and rumored possible changes from news. It even says ''Discussion of sports logo news and rumors'' in the section description. I missed the word "rumors" in that title... so I guess while there wasn't even a rumor about a change, this one makes sense. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 23,678 Posted September 16, 2019 15 hours ago, habsfan1 said: The old logo's rugged-ness does kinda fit in with ancient pirate theme, old items from centuries ago sorta. But I feel they may have "cleaned" it up to make it easier to reproduce for merch purposes. I could be wrong, but this is a guess of mine. Given the improvements in technology over the past year, where even embroidery is able to make much more detailed logos, I would tend to discount that as a factor. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 23,678 Posted September 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Old School Fool said: I just felt like the skull and the football in the older logo looked off by the time they changed it. “Looked off”? Please explain. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FiddySicks 11,048 Posted September 16, 2019 I’m never going to understand people who think the “new and updated” flag logo is better than the original flag logo. Every single thing about the new logo (minus MAYBE the brighter red) is is a massive downgrade. I mean, you can think the new logo is “better” because it’s a free country, but if you sincerely look at it and say “Hey, that’s an upgrade”, you just have awful taste and we could never get along. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sport 13,776 Posted September 16, 2019 The new logo looks like a sterile version of the old one. Doesn't have any of the character or charm while using way more lines. It's one of the worst updates to a logo I've seen in the last 20 years. I hate it. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosioux76 2,192 Posted September 16, 2019 I'm hoping for a return to the creamsicles. I don't disagree that the 1997-2013 set was a great-looking football uniform -- just not for a team in Florida. That color scheme, as appealing as it was, just seems drab for the region its representing. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dont care 6,102 Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, McCarthy said: The new logo looks like a sterile version of the old one. Doesn't have any of the character or charm while using way more lines. It's one of the worst updates to a logo I've seen in the last 20 years. I hate it. I agree other logos that have been updated are taking hand drawn logos from a time before digital design and cleaning them up to work today. For the bucs the took a logo that was already made in modern times with intentional roughness to fit the theme, to trying to smooth all of that out and take all character away from the logo. Basically making it look like a weird mix of robo skeleton on a flag, rather than the Jolly Roger it’s suppose to represent. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschoolvikings 17,482 Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: I missed the word "rumors" in that title... so I guess while there wasn't even a rumor about a change, this one makes sense. I like "news" and "rumors of news" as a description. Since it's 2019, can we add "fake news" too? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGiants58 13,714 Posted September 16, 2019 The pirate ship Bucs have competitively descended to Creamsicle levels since 2002. That whole “we’re winners now” attitude has long since faded away. Why not just embrace the formerly-maligned color scheme (with a much darker red, but not quite maroon) and either do a new pirate flag logo or a modernized Bucco Bruce? Look at how artists have transformed the campy Kraven the Hunter into something far less campy. The same logic applies to Bucco Bruce. He can be salvaged into something for the team, be it a throwback or a full-time design. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBGKon 2,594 Posted September 16, 2019 Creasicle orange is such a dated color, it's solid as an accent secondary color or full throwback, but not as a complete identity Also the majority of seats in Raymond James Stadium are red, and while stadium seats shouldn't dictate team colors the red would stand out like a sore thumb. Here's a concept making the rounds from a local podcaster and design guy Samer Ali which takes the red and pewter to a simplified level while leaving a touch of the orange as accent. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosioux76 2,192 Posted September 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, AstroBull21 said: Creasicle orange is such a dated color, it's solid as an accent secondary color or full throwback, but not as a complete identity Also the majority of seats in Raymond James Stadium are red, and while stadium seats shouldn't dictate team colors the red would stand out like a sore thumb. Here's a concept making the rounds from a local podcaster and design guy Samer Ali which takes the red and pewter to a simplified level while leaving a touch of the orange as accent. I don't know why the red would seem out of place. The Bucco Bruce era used both orange and red in its color scheme. Seems like the stadium is ready made to adapt to a switch. Also, I don't understand the call for a modernized Bucco Bruce. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a lot wrong with the original. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGiants58 13,714 Posted September 16, 2019 If anything, I’d have maroon/dark red as the primary with both white and creamsicle pants. Save the creamsicle jersey for alternate status (e.g., a straight throwback). White helmets would be the standard, obviously. Just now, gosioux76 said: Also, I don't understand the call for a modernized Bucco Bruce. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a lot wrong with the original. The line work in the original is pretty rough, with inconsistent weights and some poor detailing. Also, some people (myself included) don’t really like the wink, as it makes it too campy. An Errol Flynn lookalike leering at you just looks silly. Making him aggressive, like @Buc‘s brilliant concept, gives him some much-needed menace. It’s one of the few times a “menacing” upgrade works. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FiddySicks 11,048 Posted September 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: I don't know why the red would seem out of place. The Bucco Bruce era used both orange and red in its color scheme. Seems like the stadium is ready made to adapt to a switch. Also, I don't understand the call for a modernized Bucco Bruce. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a lot wrong with the original. Two things: 1). That concept is trash. It still uses the same oversized, garbage flag logo that they use now, and the designer genuinely thinks that's a good look. 2). Samer Ali is an absolute dickhead of a human being. everything he's ever designed. I've never encountered a more arrogant designer than that dude. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosioux76 2,192 Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said: If anything, I’d have maroon/dark red as the primary with both white and creamsicle pants. Save the creamsicle jersey for alternate status (e.g., a straight throwback). White helmets would be the standard, obviously. The line work in the original is pretty rough, with inconsistent weights and some poor detailing. Also, some people (myself included) don’t really like the wink, as it makes it too campy. An Errol Flynn lookalike leering at you just looks silly. Making him aggressive, like @Buc‘s brilliant concept, gives him some much-needed menace. It’s one of the few times a “menacing” upgrade works. That sounds great, actually. I'd be in favor of an update like this. But modernizing it too much strip the logo of its charm. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGiants58 13,714 Posted September 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said: 2). Samer Ali is an absolute dickhead of a human being. everything he's ever designed. I've never encountered a more arrogant designer than that dude. Is he really worse than Jesse Alkire? P.I.L.L.? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FiddySicks 11,048 Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said: Is he really worse than Jesse Alkire? P.I.L.L.? Yes. Those two were just argumentative and stubborn. Samer Ali is an :censored:. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CS85 10,487 Posted September 16, 2019 HELMETS: Hey Buccos, this is a prime time to bring back the white helmets. The Titans have entered an "Why are the Oilers wearing copper and navy?" phase of their uniform existence, and your current uniforms will be remembered as the "Eat a W"/Jameis Sucks/Staph Infection era of Tampa Bay Buc uniform history. You play in a hot-ass state wear everybody wears white at home. White is IN these days. Go nuts. White helmets, lads. White helmets. COLORS: White, creamsicle, red, pewter. There are your colors in order. You're welcome. I'm doing this for free. NUMERALS: The current ones you have should be set afire. Here's some better ones: 1 2 3 UNIFORM: See these two uniforms? Mix them together. Insert your team colors. White matte helmet. Some pirate logo that's of a normal size. Done. Fixed. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FiddySicks 11,048 Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, CS85 said: HELMETS: Hey Buccos, this is a prime time to bring back the white helmets. The Titans have entered an "Why are the Oilers wearing copper and navy?" phase of their uniform existence, and your current uniforms will be remembered as the "Eat a W"/Jameis Sucks/Staph Infection era of Tampa Bay Buc uniform history. You play in a hot-ass state wear everybody wears white at home. White is IN these days. Go nuts. White helmets, lads. White helmets. COLORS: White, creamsicle, red, pewter. There are your colors in order. You're welcome. I'm doing this for free. NUMERALS: The current ones you have should be set afire. Here's some better ones: 1 2 3 UNIFORM: See these two uniforms? Mix them together. Insert your team colors. White matte helmet. Some pirate logo that's of a normal size. Done. Fixed. Counter to this: No. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBGKon 2,594 Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Bucfan56 said: Two things: 1). That concept is trash. It still uses the same oversized, garbage flag logo that they use now, and the designer genuinely thinks that's a good look. 2). Samer Ali is an absolute dickhead of a human being. everything he's ever designed. I've never encountered a more arrogant designer than that dude. Agree to disagree, honestly I like the large logo on the helmet, and i am indifferent to the new updated flag logo. I've seen you and Samer have Twitter beef, so lets leave that away from here....i just posted the concept to show an option of what "could be" a direction the Bucs go. No one's right or wrong, we all can and should have our own opinions. You might agree with me or disagree with me on this, but i feel no return to creamsicle orange and no white helmets should be looked at. Red primary jersey and pewter helmets should be where to start. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites