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23 hours ago, Dilbert said:

Agreed, bring in a natural grass surface. But yeah even venues outside current MLS markets. Maybe get Atlanta to Birmingham, Orlando to Tampa, DC to Baltimore. Heck even get New England at Fenway would be interesting.

 

Fun fact, DCU is considering setting up an MLS Next Pro club in Baltimore in the coming years.

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On 9/27/2022 at 9:06 AM, Dilbert said:

LA Galaxy will host LAFC to open next season at their former home, the Rose Bowl, in February 2023. The league will have an unbalanced schedule next season and LAFC and LA Galaxy will play each other three times. One at LAFC, one in Carson and a second Galaxy home game played in Pasadena.

 

I like this idea. I could see many of the teams play three derby games each year with one at a larger site.  I like the Galaxy and Earthquakes at Stanford. I could see others like Red Bulls and NYCFC at MetLife, Columbus and Cincinnati at Ohio Stadium, Houston/Austin at Dallas in the Cotton Bowl. This could bring an edge to the rivalries and bring in higher attendance.

 

I'll definitely try to make that game, seems like a great idea to me. I love the Rose Bowl and haven't been to a Galaxy game in years. Getting down to Carson is kind of a hassle and I refuse to go to a LAFC game even though their stadium looks amazing. Idk why but LAFC just gives me weird vibes and I also don't like overly try hard fans who think they're in Europe or South America.

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2 hours ago, BrySmalls said:

 

Fun fact, DCU is considering setting up an MLS Next Pro club in Baltimore in the coming years.

I heard about that. They cant have it in Loudoun because the contract for the stadium says it has to be a division 2 club, while MLS Next Pro is division 3. While Id love to see Baltimore have a club I dont want DCUs reserve team there. Baltimore belongs in USL Championship. Huntsville was gunning for a USL League One club but Nashville outbid the USL bid and now fans in Huntsville are stuck with MLSNP. I dont want to see Baltimore get screwed the same way Huntsville did. Id much rather see DCU2 in DC or in the DC suburbs.

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9 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

 

That might be Nashville's permanent home going forward, should Las Vegas, Phoenix, or San Diego be awarded 30th club; unless, of course, the League does something radical like divides itself into three divisions of 10 clubs.

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2 hours ago, Digby said:

Didn't really understand the need to move Nashville around when this was obviously inevitable. STL in the West makes sense and their rivalry with KC will be the next one the league beats relentlessly I'm sure.

 

To be fair, Nashville started in the Western Conference their inaugural 2020 season. The pandemic forced the League to move them to the Eastern Conference for the rest of the 2020 and the 2021 seasons. The League moved  Nashville to the Western Conference for the 2022 season because of Charlotte FC entering the League, which would have created at 15/13 club imbalance.

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11 minutes ago, BrySmalls said:

which would have created at 15/13 club imbalance.

 

Given that the schedules are unbalanced anyway, I don't think this is a problem -- would be better to reduce travel and let Nashville foment those future rivalries. Like the glory days of the 16 NL / 14 AL baseball. But maybe the math doesn't pencil out.

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36 minutes ago, Digby said:

 

Given that the schedules are unbalanced anyway, I don't think this is a problem -- would be better to reduce travel and let Nashville foment those future rivalries. Like the glory days of the 16 NL / 14 AL baseball. But maybe the math doesn't pencil out.

 

You're right, it wouldn't have been a problem. The 2020 season ended with 14 Clubs in the East and 12 Clubs in the West. 

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On 9/28/2022 at 12:18 PM, BrySmalls said:

 

That might be Nashville's permanent home going forward, should Las Vegas, Phoenix, or San Diego be awarded 30th club; unless, of course, the League does something radical like divides itself into three divisions of 10 clubs.

 

I hope MLS expands to 36 or 40 so Vegas, Phoenix, San Diego, and Sacramento can all get in. Orange County would be awesome too. 

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I could definitely see MLS expanding beyond 30 or 32.

 

Sacramento-if they get new owners and investors.

San Diego-Now that Snapdragon is open I think it can work at that venue.

Phoenix

Las Vegas- honestly I see Phoenix or Vegas.

Tampa

Louisville

San Antonio-Honestly I think both and them and Austin can work despite close distance.

Indianapolis

Louisville- Louisville honestly needs a major league club at this point. Soccer may be the best shot.

Detroit

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13 hours ago, Dilbert said:

I could definitely see MLS expanding beyond 30 or 32.

 

Sacramento-if they get new owners and investors.

San Diego-Now that Snapdragon is open I think it can work at that venue.

Phoenix

Las Vegas- honestly I see Phoenix or Vegas.

Tampa

Louisville

San Antonio-Honestly I think both and them and Austin can work despite close distance.

Indianapolis

Louisville- Louisville honestly needs a major league club at this point. Soccer may be the best shot.

Detroit

The most annoying bit about San Antonio is that had the mayor not gotten goo goo eyes for the Saints we'd already have a MLS team. Instead the Earthquakes ended up in Houston. The one advantage of the current stadium is it can be upgraded to 25,000 seats rather easily. 

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15 hours ago, Dilbert said:

I could definitely see MLS expanding beyond 30 or 32.

 

Sacramento-if they get new owners and investors.

San Diego-Now that Snapdragon is open I think it can work at that venue.

Phoenix

Las Vegas- honestly I see Phoenix or Vegas.

Tampa

Louisville

San Antonio-Honestly I think both and them and Austin can work despite close distance.

Indianapolis

Louisville- Louisville honestly needs a major league club at this point. Soccer may be the best shot.

Detroit

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Louisville in the MLS.  I find seeing new cities get their first major league team as fascinating.  Austin got their first (and likely only) with Austin FC, but only because of their frat boy owner wanting to move one of the original MLS teams to Austin. 

 

Except for Tampa and San Antonio, the rest of these teams will need some cash infusion to get into the MLS.  

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On 9/30/2022 at 8:03 PM, Dilbert said:

I could definitely see MLS expanding beyond 30 or 32.

 

Sacramento-if they get new owners and investors.

San Diego-Now that Snapdragon is open I think it can work at that venue.

Phoenix

Las Vegas- honestly I see Phoenix or Vegas.

Tampa

Louisville

San Antonio-Honestly I think both and them and Austin can work despite close distance.

Indianapolis

Louisville- Louisville honestly needs a major league club at this point. Soccer may be the best shot.

Detroit


Nope. That ship has sailed, caught fire, and sunk to the bottom of the Pacific already. Also, Sacramento as a city doesn’t deserve another pro sports franchise. They don’t deserve the one they currently have, actually. 

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On 10/1/2022 at 2:22 PM, GDAWG said:

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Louisville in the MLS.  I find seeing new cities get their first major league team as fascinating.  Austin got their first (and likely only) with Austin FC, but only because of their frat boy owner wanting to move one of the original MLS teams to Austin. 

 

Except for Tampa and San Antonio, the rest of these teams will need some cash infusion to get into the MLS.  

 

I like a league that isn't afraid to be counter-intuitive with its expansion strategy. I'm all for targeting markets that are growing and in which the team would be the only -- or one of the only -- games in town.

 

A league that's still trying to grow would seem best-served in locations where it can get a lion's share of the buzz.  It feels like an uphill battle to be the fourth or fifth major league team in a given market. MLS can too easily be cast aside as a fringe sport in those circumstances.

 

I thought Cincinnati and St. Louis were interesting expansion markets: Slow-to-no-growth Midwest metros that are easy to overlook outside of their two pro sports teams. These are places that lack the cache of a desirable NBA city, but fit the blue-collar ethic of a sports like soccer that relies so heavily on grass-roots support. 

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(Assuming women's soccer in North America also belongs in this thread and there is no separate thread for women's soccer)

 

Oh my. It gets worse for NWSL.

 

https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-nwsl/story/4760185/us-soccer-investigation-into-womens-game-finds-systemic-abusemisconduct

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