NFL 2023 Changes

[SportsFan12]

9 hours ago, Cujo said:

Knowing the Cards will be doing something ultra-modern, I suppose something like this would be acceptable.

 

I could’ve sworn everyone on here hates gradients.

[Old School Fool]

The helmet at least has to inevitably leak soon right?

[HOOVER]

1 hour ago, Kiltman said:

Yeah it’s fun to think about, hopefully something happens there. No part of the identity they just got is worth saving.

 

It’s a cool sounding name, and I loved the Union in Philly leaning into that a bit. But yeah, especially with what side of things every general was in Virginia…probably a non-starter ha.

 

I wonder if the Jags would move down there once their Stadium “needs” replaced. Or if they move out of state at that point, would Orlando get a bump in expansion talk (which seems like it’s on the mind of the league again)

I feel like Jacksonville would be the team most easily enticed into loving to London.   Haven’t been following but I know a few years back the Khans had a master plan developed for that site and were intent on transforming that stadium area.
 

I truly hate the logistics of international expansion and I can’t imagine, unless those franchises are given a different salary cap limit to entice players to live overseas, that those teams would be able to be competitive.   I think free agents would avoid them and I could see draft picks refusing to report.  Imagine growing up dreaming of playing for an NFL team and then getting drafted to play in Frankfurt.

 

Expansion just seems tricky; at 32 teams now, you’d have to add 4 franchises (crazy) and go back to 3 divisions in each conference (w/6 teams each) or add 8 teams, which is doubly insane,  to keep 4 divisions in each conference (with 5 teams each).

 

 

[chcarlson23]

4 minutes ago, Pigskin12 said:

I could’ve sworn everyone on here hates gradients.

Nope. Only gradients for the sake of gradients…

[Cujo]

37 minutes ago, Pigskin12 said:

I could’ve sworn everyone on here hates gradients.

 

Nobody over the age of 19 likes it. But like piping two decades ago, it's the current trend and is guaranteed to make an appearance.

 

Based off what the Rams, Falcons, Commanders threw at us in the most recent NFL overhauls, we're 99.99% guaranteed to get gradient in some form. The concept posted is acceptable since there's really no avoiding it. (Translation: It could be worse!)

[HOOVER]

5 minutes ago, Pigskin12 said:

I could’ve sworn everyone on here hates gradients.

They do.  I do, too.

 

However, if it made sense for any team to  do it, it’s probably the Cardinals.  Not sure if that’s because of the State Flag, the vision of the sun setting over the desert that’s easy to assign to the Southwest in general, or because the Arizona Wildcats used it on their jersey sleeve years ago.

[TruColor]

All I will say about the helmet (yes, I have a picture that I have promised NOT to share), is that when you see it, you'll think "of course...it all makes sense now".

 

I think.

 

I will also say is that from what I know of the uniforms that the helmets do tie into the uniforms, but I have a number of questions about that...the things I'm hearing don't all make sense to me.

[WBeltz]

2 minutes ago, TruColor said:

All I will say about the helmet (yes, I have a picture that I have promised NOT to share), is that when you see it, you'll think "of course...it all makes sense now".

 

I think.

 

I will also say is that from what I know of the uniforms that the helmets do tie into the uniforms, but I have a number of questions about that...the things I'm hearing don't all make sense to me.

Is there a date for the reveal? I know the 17th was mentioned, but was it set in stone? Has there been a formal announcement at all?

[TruColor]

Just now, WBeltz said:

Is there a date for the reveal? I know the 17th was mentioned, but was it set in stone? Has there been a formal announcement at all?

 

I'm still trying to get to the bottom of that as well. I've got someone who is trying to get me an official pass to the event, and I'd like to get it set.

 

Besides that, I'm about to lose my mind having to wait to see these things.

[TrueYankee26]

40 minutes ago, Pigskin12 said:

I could’ve sworn everyone on here hates gradients.

Not me, I sometimes wish the Rays go back to their 1998-2000 look if not 2001-2007

[oldschoolvikings]

4 hours ago, _RH_ said:

 

 

I think we can all agree those grey face masks have to go!  

*ahem*

[eRay]

Speaking of gradients, and trying to make sense of the info we've heard; both the Suns and U of AZ have used striped or 8-bit gradients, is there a chance the Cards go this route? It would explain the inclusion of orange, and might even explain the use of maroon and warm gray as well.

[colinturner95]

1 hour ago, Pigskin12 said:

I could’ve sworn everyone on here hates gradients.

there's a fine line for when gradients work on a sports uniform. A razor thin line too often crossed too far. 

[Cujo]

12 minutes ago, colinturner95 said:

there's a fine line for when gradients work on a sports uniform

 

It's very rare. As far as NFL goes, neither the Rams, Falcons or Commanders made it work.

 

To add, the Jaguars failed in spectacular fashion.

 

[oldschoolvikings]

So, exactly when have gradients worked on a sports uniform?  I’m coming up blank.  

[FiddySicks]

Well, these are my favorite sports uniforms of all time, so

[Cujo]

13 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said:

So, exactly when have gradients worked on a sports uniform?  I’m coming up blank.  

 

Came up with one. Just one.

 

[raz]

@TruColor Can you say anything about the colors? 

[burgundy]

3 hours ago, TruColor said:

All I will say about the helmet (yes, I have a picture that I have promised NOT to share), is that when you see it, you'll think "of course...it all makes sense now".

 

I think.

 

I will also say is that from what I know of the uniforms that the helmets do tie into the uniforms, but I have a number of questions about that...the things I'm hearing don't all make sense to me.

 

A white helmet with metallic gold/copper flakes? An anodized red facemask that can look various shades of red depending on lighting? A bit larger helmet logo that's metallic and has gradients like the one on the black helmet?

 

Am I getting warm or cold?

 

[Kiltman]

2 hours ago, HOOVER said:

I feel like Jacksonville would be the team most easily enticed into loving to London.   Haven’t been following but I know a few years back the Khans had a master plan developed for that site and were intent on transforming that stadium area.
 

I truly hate the logistics of international expansion and I can’t imagine, unless those franchises are given a different salary cap limit to entice players to live overseas, that those teams would be able to be competitive.   I think free agents would avoid them and I could see draft picks refusing to report.  Imagine growing up dreaming of playing for an NFL team and then getting drafted to play in Frankfurt.

 

Expansion just seems tricky; at 32 teams now, you’d have to add 4 franchises (crazy) and go back to 3 divisions in each conference (w/6 teams each) or add 8 teams, which is doubly insane,  to keep 4 divisions in each conference (with 5 teams each).

 

 

Yeah feels like if they do expand over there, Jacksonville is going to be part of it. It’s hard to imagine them just doing 4 new teams all overseas. Some sort of hybrid makes sense with Jacksonville. I know the Glazers were looking at selling ManU maybe, but could see them also shifting to that division and having annual games over there. Maybe those international teams have their base of operations US side in Orlando, because they’d need that.

 

Yeah it’s really hard to picture how it’d be balanced. I get you are doing that as owners to try and grow the most. But could also taking for less risk and logistical burden to just do North American cities.

 

The 3 divisions of 6 in each conference seems doable, but gets tricky when you try to break a division up in both the AFC and NFC. Easiest target seems to be just dissolve the southern divisions. But as to what it’d be would depend on what 4 cities are being added.

 

Like if they are adding 2 teams + the jags overseas. Putting in the Bucs, Atlanta and Carolina makes sense. Hubs them more. But obviously if they add like San Antonio, Portland, St Louis and Orlando/Toronto/Mexico City it’d be different.