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22 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:


 I mean, I think you know exactly why people find it off putting.

 

These two had some mutual interest in each other and as soon as that got public everyone pounced on it like piranhas, and have spent the entire season trying to cram these stories down our throats

 

It’s just yet another example of how empty and meaningless so much of our society has become.

 

I'm sure you do think that, but I really don't know. Why anyone would get upset over cutaway shots during an NFL broadcast is a mystery to me. It's a cutaway shot. In terms of directing a telecast, it's a time killer. No one gets pissed when it's Fireman Ed or some shirtless, morbidly obese :censored: at an NFL game. If people find cutaways of Taylor Swift off putting, they may be taking the whole thing a little too seriously.

 

FWIW, I haven't found it difficult at all to avoid the whole affair. Maybe that's why I find the blow back to be absurd. I don't know.

 

It's cotton candy. It's harmless. I don't see it as an example of anything other than that. It's just a football telecast. No more, no less.

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I think the thing I’m taking most from it is that the Taylor Swift machine and the NFL machine are really similar in that they’re there mostly to extract cash from people. But they kind of go after what’s usually diametrically opposed sides of that dollar. Seems like a funny coincidence that the affable dummy the league has really been pushing as their friendly face just so happened to end up with the friendly face of that other economic machine. It could totally be a coincidence because like I said people date. But you have to understand that this more of a combination of entertainment ventures than it is a relationship (at least for anyone who isn’t those two), and yeah, I’m sorry but that can be annoying some times! In that sense, it’s sort of the crossover that neither side actually asked for. 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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1 hour ago, infrared41 said:

 

Tell me you've never seen Terry Bradshaw play without telling me you've never seen Terry Bradshaw play. I was there and he was much more than "Brad Johnson but on a team full of HOFers."

 

I'll defer to your judgement since I'm basing mine on watching a lot of old NFL Films and reading talking to my friends' families who lived through that era.  But I'm not old enough to have seen any of it first hand.  I still think we'd agree he's not in the same discussion with Mahomes, yeah?

 

I should probably be suspended for posting a Reddit link, but in here, people saying he was one of the original "gunslinger" types, who happened to be clutch in the post season, but equal parts great and horrible in the regular season when not being carried.  

 

Among the top guys for his era, but not overall in the convo for a top guy overall.  I'd love to know a modern comparison, and I'd love to know if, on another team that wasn't among the greatest dynasties in sports, how would he have done.

 

Is there a BBTV-era comparison (mid-80s on - basically starting with '85 Bears) you could make to help me visualize?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Red Comet said:

And as far as I’m concerned, I have this thing called a “remote control” that allows me to turn a television off if I don’t like what I see. What a concept!
 

 

I guess, but the complaint is about the 6 seconds Taylor Swift is shown on screen at a time.

 

How are you supposed to be prepared for that?

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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I'm angry because the Bills have an amazing roster and a great QB and it's looking like they'll be looking up at a generational QB for another 20 years.

 

I don't know why everyone else is so upset.

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1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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46 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

 

I guess, but the complaint is about the 6 seconds Taylor Swift is shown on screen at a time.

 

How are you supposed to be prepared for that?

 

Not giving a :censored: seems to work for me.

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2 hours ago, BBTV said:

 

I'll defer to your judgement since I'm basing mine on watching a lot of old NFL Films and reading talking to my friends' families who lived through that era.  But I'm not old enough to have seen any of it first hand.  I still think we'd agree he's not in the same discussion with Mahomes, yeah?

 

I should probably be suspended for posting a Reddit link, but in here, people saying he was one of the original "gunslinger" types, who happened to be clutch in the post season, but equal parts great and horrible in the regular season when not being carried.  

 

Among the top guys for his era, but not overall in the convo for a top guy overall.  I'd love to know a modern comparison, and I'd love to know if, on another team that wasn't among the greatest dynasties in sports, how would he have done.

 

Is there a BBTV-era comparison (mid-80s on - basically starting with '85 Bears) you could make to help me visualize?

 

 

 

 

I'm too young too have seen Bradshaw play either, but from what I have seen and from what people describe, I'd say he's "Matt Stafford, but on a team full of HOFers"

 

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3 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

I think the thing I’m taking most from it is that the Taylor Swift machine and the NFL machine are really similar in that they’re there mostly to extract cash from people.

 

Whether or not the NFL and/or Taylor Swift extract that cash is entirely up to the people who have the cash they're trying to extract. Ain't no one forcing people to spend their money on the NFL or Taylor Swift.

 

3 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

Seems like a funny coincidence that the affable dummy the league has really been pushing as their friendly face just so happened to end up with the friendly face of that other economic machine. It could totally be a coincidence because like I said people date.

 

My limited understanding of the situation is Kelce had a thing for Taylor Swift for a while before he finally decided to say :censored: it,  rolled the dice, and asked her out. Maybe I'm naive, but I don't believe there is anything more to it than that. The NFL capitalized on their relationship and I don't have a problem with it. Frankly, I can't blame the league for taking advantage of the opportunity to possibly bring in new fans any more than I can blame her for being on camera at games. She's not in the production truck calling the camera shots.

 

3 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

But you have to understand that this more of a combination of entertainment ventures than it is a relationship (at least for anyone who isn’t those two), and yeah, I’m sorry but that can be annoying some times!

 

I don't think that's what is happening here, but even if it is, what's the issue? As I said before, no one is being forced to spend money on any of it.

 

That being said, I can understand how it might be annoying at times.

 

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I’m not saying I even necessarily buy into a lot of that, but that’s the common explanation. It’s a league who’s main TV event is one of the biggest TV events of the year, and they had the ability to combine it with one of the highest grossing pop stars of all time. I don’t necessarily blame them for that, but there’s definitely an element to it comes across as annoying. It just feels like the further consolidation of entertainment (and for the producers, wealth) that we’ve basically seen everywhere else.
 
Plus you have to understand the trend of people wanting sports to be kind of a “safe space” from some of the other residuals. As ridiculous as that may be, I kind of think some of that is fueling it, too. 

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She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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1 hour ago, infrared41 said:

My limited understanding of the situation is Kelce had a thing for Taylor Swift for a while before he finally decided to say :censored: it,  rolled the dice, and asked her out. Maybe I'm naive, but I don't believe there is anything more to it than that.


Im pretty sure it was actually Dick Vermeil that somehow fixed them up. He was doing something with the chiefs, his TV contacts knew hers, blah blah blah. 

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12 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

I’m not saying I even necessarily buy into a lot of that, but that’s the common explanation. It’s a league who’s main TV event is one of the biggest TV events of the year, and they had the ability to combine it with one of the highest grossing pop stars of all time. I don’t necessarily blame them for that, but there’s definitely an element to it comes across as annoying. It just feels like the further consolidation of entertainment (and for the producers, wealth) that we’ve basically seen everywhere else.

 

I don't know that it's nefarious illuminati stuff or anything, but it does generally reflect the overall cultural moment of monoculture and everything having to be all-or-nothing. Which, if you're not a superfan, I can relate to that being tiring and fatiguing. Also they're both too good and too famous so that the endless content about them is pretty dull, it really brings out the most vapid space-filling tendencies of the TV guys. Like anything else, there's more fun in rooting for an underdog.

 

Personally I think these pairings are much funnier when it's like, a septuagenarian play-by-play guy who's totally oblivious to who Kate Upton is and needs it explained to him. Or the embarrassing mismatch of like, Kim Kardashian marrying Kris Humphries for a couple months.

 

Anyway, I think those are all valid reasons to be tired of Swiftce or whatever it is, but the way the invalid reasons have made the worst people in the world completely lose their minds has made it all worthwhile IMHO.

   

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