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34 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:


Yeah you can’t hate on the Suns for that pick. Ayton was not only a monster in college, but also was the star of the (semi) local powerhouse (frauds) college basketball team. That combo sort of made him a couldn’t pass kinda guy for the Suns. 
 

Who you can blame, though, is the Sacramento Kings for just straight up PASSING on Luka for Marvin Bagley.

Marvin :censored:ing Bagley. They did that. The Kings. Who are somehow still in Sacramento. For reasons. That I can’t explain. 

 

Looks like you lost your passion for your Norcal/Nevada roots. Maybe Arizona is the place for you. 

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32 minutes ago, Fowler said:

 

Looks like you lost your passion for your Norcal/Nevada roots. Maybe Arizona is the place for you. 


Went back to AZ two weeks ago for the first time since graduating a decade ago. Had a great time. Brought back a lot of great memories of living there. Had an even stronger appreciation that I didn’t get stuck there for the last decade. Great visit. As for living there? Not for me.

 

Kings are still run by dopes (Although they’ve learned some lessons, apparently), but hey, so is their soccer team. Win some lose 🤷‍♂️

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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4 hours ago, FiddySicks said:


Yeah you can’t hate on the Suns for that pick. Ayton was not only a monster in college, but also was the star of the (semi) local powerhouse (frauds) college basketball team. That combo sort of made him a couldn’t pass kinda guy for the Suns. 
 

Who you can blame, though, is the Sacramento Kings for just straight up PASSING on Luka for Marvin Bagley.

Marvin :censored:ing Bagley. They did that. The Kings. Who are somehow still in Sacramento. For reasons. That I can’t explain. 

The most confusing part with Luka and the Suns is that they hired his old coach not too long before the draft. I actually get why they passed on him (it had been 10 since a euro guy went 1, a lot of recent high euro picks weren't working out, the Booker stuff, Ayton being great at Arizona etc), but I would say it did work out for them, at least in the sense of staying with Booker.

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I kinda think that was just them doing their due diligence. Teams need coaches, and there’s a chance if you coached a guy like Luka, you’re probably pretty good. They in the very least kicked the tires on him, but just decided that Ayton was a better prospect. I think people are kind of underrating Ayton’s value coming out of college. He was sort of a Zion type guy, in that he had that same explosiveness, but who had the potential for a good mid range game on top of that (sort of, that never really materialized). Suns were also pretty small, and he seemed like an excellent fit. In retrospect, it was a bad pick, but it was the right pick at the time. 
 

The Kings, on the other hand? People were absolutely SCREAMING at the front office to make the Luka pick. Luka was the obvious choice, here’s this generational talent that just so happened to fall into their laps due to nothing but luck, but their GM at the time was a racist dope, so he passed on him for a dude that everyone down to the ticket agents knew was a bad fit. I worked relatively closely with people in that front office at the time and the level of dejection was palpable. People were pissed. And rightly so. Basketball was saved in Sacramento by the skin of its teeth, yet here are these morons who were associated with the previous loser ownership group making more and more poor decisions. I’m glad to see the current ownership group has the sense enough to put the ego aside now, but man was that a frustrating time. It was like, why did we even bother saving this clown ass team if they’re just gonna keep up this dumb :censored:? 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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6 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

Luka was the obvious choice, here’s this generational talent that just so happened to fall into their laps due to nothing but luck, but their GM at the time was a racist dope, so he passed on him for a dude that everyone down to the ticket agents knew was a bad fit.

 

Divac passed on a Slovene because he's a Serb? Man, South Slavs can't let anything go.

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He thought Luka’s dad was a “bad influence”. Which, I have no idea. Hasn’t seemed to make any difference so far with him in Dallas. 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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The Kings have had some treasures in the GM chair. Divac was the IT of his era, but I think I remember the guy before him (Pete D'Alessandro) saying he wanted to crowdsource draft picks or something; he didn't last long. And then before that the Maloofs were still burning the place down and nobody could do much of anything.

 

Tyreke Evans would have been a perennial all-star had he not been drafted into that ongoing disaster.

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I'm not sure how he thinks acting like an unprofessional child is going to help him get traded sooner. At this point I can't imagine anyone is offering Philly any sort of substantial package for him, and this is just going to make it worse. If I'm the Sixers I'd just let him sit out the year out of spite.

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I assumed that going back to E-W would be unpopular because people seemed to like it when it came out, but maybe it's growing stale. I prefer it simply because I know who's playing on which team. I also don't find the whole "all-star draft" compelling in the least. I hope they go back. While nobody cares about the conferences they way we used to care about the AL and NL, nothing about East/West was the reason the game stinks.

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2 minutes ago, OnWis97 said:

I assumed that going back to E-W would be unpopular because people seemed to like it when it came out, but maybe it's growing stale. I prefer it simply because I know who's playing on which team. I also don't find the whole "all-star draft" compelling in the least. I hope they go back. While nobody cares about the conferences they way we used to care about the AL and NL, nothing about East/West was the reason the game stinks.

with so many guys refusing to play defense, and the fact you needed to have two sets of uniforms for each player last year, going to anything that lets one side of the league say they're better than the other works for me. We'll still get crazy uniforms for the game because Nike can't help themselves, but at least I can expect Giannis and Wemby to be on opposite teams this year. Mainly because I don't expect Wemby to be in the main All Star Game. 

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The playground thing has run its course but it was fun for a bit.

 

I think the best path forward is to pick the all stars but not play the game. Just have them show up and play Xbox or roast each other or something. The game itself is a farce.

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1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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We should be due for a changing of the guard pretty soon in the East, maybe not this season, but probably by next year. The Bucks and Celtics are going for broke with their recent moves but I don't know much better either team really got, and I know the Celtics are going to be in cap hell pretty soon as a result. The Sixers window was closing anyway and the Harden situation isn't going to help. Miami is always somewhat of a wild card (and also what the hell is this).

 

I don't know who the emergent teams would be, though. Cleveland is clearly on the way up, so that should be one, especially if Mobley makes the leap. Orlando is the proverbial spooky loaded young team but they haven't actually done anything yet and even if Banchero and Wagner are the real deal, they have to be a couple of years out at least. The Knicks are cursed until they prove otherwise. The Hawks and Pacers are what they are. Nobody else as constructed looks like anything more than a play-in team for the forseeable future.

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On 10/19/2023 at 10:38 AM, OnWis97 said:

I assumed that going back to E-W would be unpopular because people seemed to like it when it came out, but maybe it's growing stale. I prefer it simply because I know who's playing on which team. I also don't find the whole "all-star draft" compelling in the least. I hope they go back. While nobody cares about the conferences they way we used to care about the AL and NL, nothing about East/West was the reason the game stinks.

 

Well, we know they can't steal "North America v. the World" from the NHL like they did the playground draft, we're not ready for that one

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On 10/10/2023 at 8:54 PM, FiddySicks said:


Yeah you can’t hate on the Suns for that pick. Ayton was not only a monster in college, but also was the star of the (semi) local powerhouse (frauds) college basketball team. That combo sort of made him a couldn’t pass kinda guy for the Suns. 
 

Who you can blame, though, is the Sacramento Kings for just straight up PASSING on Luka for Marvin Bagley.

Marvin :censored:ing Bagley. They did that. The Kings. Who are somehow still in Sacramento. For reasons. That I can’t explain. 

 

Ayton didn't have an outstanding playoff run in 2021.

 

Say what you want about his playoffs the last 2 years, but the Valley Oop did happen.

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