ddub53 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/15/2024 at 11:13 PM, Cujo said: What a fxxking rip.. This is what you get when you have essentially a private equity group creating apparel and not an apparel company that takes pride in its materials. Quality is not a priority, only profit margin. And printing numbers is less labor intensive and cheaper than sewing several tackle twill letters, numbers and patches onto a uniform. 8 1 Quote Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, ddub53 said: This is what you get when you have essentially a private equity group creating apparel and not an apparel company that takes pride in its materials. Quality is not a priority, only profit margin. And printing numbers is less labor intensive and cheaper than sewing several tackle twill letters, numbers and patches onto a uniform. With the swoosh on the front, Nike has the first and final say. I think it’s fair to say that the division at Nike who thought three-tiers of retail baseball jerseys would be popular had no idea how baseball fans would react. The team at Nike who thought MLB jerseys were in dire need of a template change also had no idea what the reaction would be amongst fans or many of the players (bringing in five or six guys to test the template is clearly not a sizable sample). Thin, printed twill numbers and logos have been on Swingman jerseys for years…that’s Nike. These techniques aren’t anything new. 1 Quote Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/16/2024 at 11:43 AM, OnWis97 said: Question. Would you rather have: Previous quality fabrics, stitching, etc. with ads This garbage material but with no ads? I'd take #2. The "Quickrete" patch is still the cheapest-looking part of Atlanta's uniform. And while that might be the worst add, I think they're all tasteless. I honestly couldn't disagree more. Yes, ads suck but they're (at least currently) a detail confined to just one part of the jersey and could technically go completely unnoticed from certain angles. With these new uniforms, the whole thing looks like cheap garbage. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmackman Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, ddub53 said: This is what you get when you have essentially a private equity group creating apparel and not an apparel company that takes pride in its materials. Quality is not a priority, only profit margin. Unfortunately, you could probably say that about the majority of businesses today. I also fully realize that by stating this, I sound like an old man yelling at a cloud. 3 Quote "Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be eaten. Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve. It doesn't matter whether you're a lion or a gazelle. When the sun comes up, you'd better be running." - Unknown | Check out my articles on jerseys at Bacon Sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenTino Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, Ark said: This guy goes over some of the changes in detail Good breakdown of the differences. I would argue that getting rid of the mesh inserts on the sides and the tail in the back was an upgrade, but otherwise, yeah, these new authentics are a debacle. Someone belongs in jail for what they did to that beautiful Blue Jays logo on the front. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 https://uni-watch.com/2024/02/18/all-but-two-mlb-teams-scrapping-spring-training-jerseys-this-year/ Uni-Watch confirming what Chris hinted at on Twitter a few days ago: Every team but the Yankees and Tigers are scrapping their Spring Training-specific jerseys. There’s an interesting implication to this in that several teams still wear ST jerseys that are never worn during the regular season, such as the Reds’ red jersey with Mr. Redlegs and the Dodgers’ blue jerseys, which seems to imply those jerseys may now be worn during regular season games. Are there any others that I missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsarebad Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2024 at 9:18 PM, CitizenTino said: Good breakdown of the differences. I would argue that getting rid of the mesh inserts on the sides and the tail in the back was an upgrade, but otherwise, yeah, these new authentics are a debacle. Someone belongs in jail for what they did to that beautiful Blue Jays logo on the front. mesh inserts on the sides and the tail in the back was to improve airflow, and the players have them tucked into the jersey, pretty sure it helped them not overheating their behinds. So this new jersey might look better in the back, but i am sure the previous one was better for the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 The "Elite" jerseys are now for sale. Blank: $355 Pre-customized: $395 Pick your own name and number: $430 At least they are listed as being made in the USA. I thought for sure they'd pull an NHL and start selling non-authentic Authentics. 2 1 Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian E Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 a thought randomly occurred to me over the weekend: you think the mets changed their black uniform because they (team or nike or both) knew that a tri-color with dropshadow name and number would look horrible in the smaller font size? may have just been to sell a new batch of jerseys, but it could explain the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, Sodboy13 said: The "Elite" jerseys are now for sale. Blank: $355 Pre-customized: $395 Pick your own name and number: $430 At least they are listed as being made in the USA. I thought for sure they'd pull an NHL and start selling non-authentic Authentics. 4 Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krona Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I'm not sure why shabby unis weren't excpected. It's Nike's MO. Doesn't anybody remember the NBA rollout? Nike's new NBA jerseys cannot stop falling apart. https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/11/6/16612728/nike-nba-jerseys-ripping-tearing-lebron-james Also, I'm tired of everyone parroting their line about "xx% lighter/engineered/etc". It's simple: every millimeter of fabric saved, every patch printed, every fabric swapped is multiplied by millions. It's not bad enough they pay slave wages, More for the bottom line. We complain for a few weeks and then just eat the slop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Invader Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Guardians... https://imgur.com/gallery/iSSYdKE Edited February 20 by Captain Invader Photo imbedding correction 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 21 minutes ago, Captain Invader said: Guardians... https://imgur.com/gallery/iSSYdKE Literally nothing. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M59 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, Captain Invader said: Guardians... https://imgur.com/gallery/iSSYdKE I wonder if the two guys on the viewer's left are minor league call-ups. They certainly got a different (and larger) NOB font than the guy on the viewer's right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 You guys talked about this BS yet? First of all, the headspoon piping looks like it's off a bootleg that got the proportions incorrect, but the biggest issue here is the piping on the sleeves is no longer piping, as in another layer of fabric sewn on top of the sleeve. Instead it's a cuff with a stripe that's supposed to approximate piping and it's thicker than the headspoon piping. Don't like it! The Reds themselves have a history of striped cuffs, but that was a deliberate choice with their pullover unis from 72-92, but this is the work of the current template cutting corners. Are the other teams with sleeve/headspoon piping doing the same thing? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Sport said: Are the other teams with sleeve/headspoon piping doing the same thing? Yes, yes they are. The Braves and Padres both got forced into this switch, and I am certain there are plenty of other examples. This is the RBK Edge "We can't put straight stripes on jersey sleeves anymore, it's detrimental to performance" lie all over again, except this time every team in the league bit on it. 7 Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Wind of Doom Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Does anyone know what causes some sleeves to bunch up and shrink and others to stick out? Sometimes they look like an elastic band tighter than the rest and others like that Reds sleeve seem the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 10 minutes ago, Sodboy13 said: Yes, yes they are. The Braves and Padres both got forced into this switch, and I am certain there are plenty of other examples. This is the RBK Edge "We can't put straight stripes on jersey sleeves anymore, it's detrimental to performance" lie all over again, except this time every team in the league bit on it. Good point. That's what this reminds me of. Templated changes designed to reduce drag across teams in terms of manufacturing are framed as "Innovation". Same thing is how the Jets went from this to this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenTino Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 This is interesting. The backlash from the players over the new uniforms has gotten so loud that the union is now getting involved and demanding remedies. I doubt we are going to see wholesale changes, but I think things for MLB/Nike/Fanatics have gotten past the point of hoping this just blows over if they wait it out. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinM6 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, CitizenTino said: This is interesting. The backlash from the players over the new uniforms has gotten so loud that the union is now getting involved and demanding remedies. I doubt we are going to see wholesale changes, but I think things for MLB/Nike/Fanatics have gotten past the point of hoping this just blows over if they wait it out. This is very promising. Hopefully fans can hold out for a year from buying new jerseys and they revert to the previous templates or a better version in 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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