2024 NFL Changes

[mattr1198]

7 hours ago, rfraser85 said:

With all the talk about the Jets making their throwbacks the primary uniforms next season, I wonder if the Giants should follow suit. Their current uniforms are badly mismatched and the only gray they use anymore is their facemasks and a couple stripes on the home white pants. They don't have to change to the old colors, they can just do what the 49ers did with their jerseys in 2009, using darker colors on a classic look.

As a Giants fan, I think given how ridiculously popular the throwbacks have been for the Giants, combined with the fact they're 4-0 in them and just look way more interesting, I think we should see the blue throwback and white color rush/throwback go full time home and road, with probably the white and red jersey becoming an alternate given the team won two super bowls in those unis.

[ruttep]

7 hours ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

Texans have already confirmed four jerseys. If one each is red white and navy, what color would the fourth be?

Considering the jersey set being retired includes two navy jerseys, that isn't a guarantee of four jersey colors.

[WBeltz]

Why is it that people are clamoring for teams to revert to throwbacks for their primary uniforms (in many cases it makes sense), but with the Jets rumors of going to the NYSE era, people seem, underwhelmed? Like The Dolphins could go back (I like their current set tbh) and the teams that I could see doing it (i.e. Falcons, Saints) probably won't consider it since they have their current uniforms that are servicable.

[Lights Out]

On 1/20/2024 at 5:10 PM, tBBP said:

I may be one of the few who don't hate the Jets' current uniform, even with the numbers outlines in black. The problem is the alternate black uniform for which they shoehorned the black into the uniforms in the first place.

 

I also like the Jets' modern uniforms for the most part. The one problem for me isn't even BFBS, it's their helmets. For whatever reason, that shiny finish looks fine in still photographs but terrible in motion on TV. And it doesn't appear that they'll be fixing that problem, so I don't know what switching to the throwbacks will accomplish other than giving Woody a low-effort way to pander to fans while their on-field product remains a joke.

[MJD7]

31 minutes ago, WBeltz said:

Why is it that people are clamoring for teams to revert to throwbacks for their primary uniforms (in many cases it makes sense), but with the Jets rumors of going to the NYSE era, people seem, underwhelmed? Like The Dolphins could go back (I like their current set tbh) and the teams that I could see doing it (i.e. Falcons, Saints) probably won't consider it since they have their current uniforms that are serviceable .

Because not all throwbacks are created equal.
 

For the two teams that people seem to most often clamor to return to their throwbacks, the Dolphins and the Saints, I think most would agree that those throwback designs themselves are far & away better than the teams’ primary sets, and would be among the best uniforms in the league if they were full-time. 
 

In the case of the Jets, the NYSE uniforms are probably better than their current set, almost by default due to not having black. But I don’t think many people would put them among the best in the league, like the Dolphins’ & Saints’ throwbacks are. If anything, this discussion has revealed that a lot of people think the Jets have another throwback that’s better in their own repertoire, i.e. the Namath era uniforms.

[Carolingian Steamroller]

32 minutes ago, MJD7 said:

In the case of the Jets, the NYSE uniforms are probably better than their current set, almost by default due to not having black. But I don’t think many people would put them among the best in the league, like the Dolphins’ & Saints’ throwbacks are. If anything, this discussion has revealed that a lot of people think the Jets have another throwback that’s better in their own repertoire, i.e. the Namath era uniforms.

The Jets were wearing the Namath era uniforms just 5 years ago. As much as I like the green helmet Jets (both the NYSE era and the early Parcels years) this to me remains my favorite look of theirs.

[rfraser85]

1 hour ago, MJD7 said:

Because not all throwbacks are created equal.
 

For the two teams that people seem to most often clamor to return to their throwbacks, the Dolphins and the Saints, I think most would agree that those throwback designs themselves are far & away better than the teams’ primary sets, and would be among the best uniforms in the league if they were full-time. 
 

In the case of the Jets, the NYSE uniforms are probably better than their current set, almost by default due to not having black. But I don’t think many people would put them among the best in the league, like the Dolphins’ & Saints’ throwbacks are. If anything, this discussion has revealed that a lot of people think the Jets have another throwback that’s better in their own repertoire, i.e. the Namath era uniforms.

 

I'd say there are three major guidelines for throwbacks to be brought back full time.

 

1. The uniform looks good.

2. The uniform is unique (colors, styles, etc.)

3. The uniform has ties to a significant event in the franchise's history.

 

The Jets NYSE uniforms only meet point one. The nickname is great, but other than the '82 postseason, I don't remember any major post-season runs. And while the look is a classic NFL look, the helmet is the only way you would know it's the Jets.

[HOOVER]

38 minutes ago, rfraser85 said:

 

I'd say there are three major guidelines for throwbacks to be brought back full time.

 

1. The uniform looks good.

2. The uniform is unique (colors, styles, etc.)

3. The uniform has ties to a significant event in the franchise's history.

 

The Jets NYSE uniforms only meet point one. The nickname is great, but other than the '82 postseason, I don't remember any major post-season runs. And while the look is a classic NFL look, the helmet is the only way you would know it's the Jets.

#1 is really the only guideline, in my opinion.  You can call the Brady-era Patriots uniforms "unique" and tied to significant events in franchise history, but that doesn't mean it's what they should be wearing.  

While the Namath-era uniforms check all 3 of your boxes, I don't think they should be wearing those, either.  The darkness of the Green and the tendency for White helmets to get dingy as the season progresses leads to a rather dull look.  Being that they're so closely tied to one player (Namath) also casts a shadow.

Lot of variables go into what a team should be wearing.  Ultimately it comes down a uniform that looks great, but feels right for the time.  Moving on from these Jets unis, that are most closely tied to the Zach Wilson, to a brighter, cleaner throwback 80's look that never quite achieved greatness and might become synonymous with the Aaron Rodgers era in a time in pop culture where clean vintage looks are in just seems like the right choice for where the franchise is.  If Rodgers leads them to a Super Bowl victory, they may never change out of them, and that's not a bad thing, that's a good thing.

[Brian E]

on namath era vs. sacks exchange:

 

to me, the namath era was the perfect '60's uniform. but with the modern tailoring, i don't think any ucla striping looks good. while i'd gladly take the namath era (only in kelly green) as their alternate uniform, i think the sacks exchange is superior, especially for the year 2024.

 

it can't be ignored that, in my opinion, the '80's era jets logo is the only good logo they've ever had. 

 

perfect scenario to me is:

 

NYSE era in green over white as primary home

NYSE era in white over white as primary road (both paired with current green helmet with the 80's logo)

namath era in kelly green as their alternate (paired with an alternate white shell and the namath-era throwback logo)

NYSE era in white over white (paired with the alternate white shell with the '80's logo rendered in metallic green)

 

[The Impaler]

Put me in the category that the only constant thing with the Jets is that they consistently underwhelm with their uniforms.  For me, it all comes down to the logo on the helmet.  Right now it's garbage, but I'd say the only halfway decent logo they've ever had is the 80's era as it's the only one that has a jet on it (I forgot about that hideous logo back in the early days).  I really wish they'd get more creative with their branding and do more than just a wordmark on their helmet.  

[AstroCreep]

2 hours ago, Carolingian Steamroller said:

The Jets were wearing the Namath era uniforms just 5 years ago. As much as I like the green helmet Jets (both the NYSE era and the early Parcels years) this to me remains my favorite look of theirs.

This is also my favorite Jets jersey. Perhaps a little bias because it's what I grew up watching. Say what you will about the last decade and a half, but they did have a lot of good seasons and playoff moments in this.

It's been said but all they haver to do is:

-Put the classic wordmark in the current football logo 

-Inverse the shoulder stripes

-Use current shade of green or kelly green

and you have the perfect Jets uniform. It's classic, unique and it ties to their only major accomplishment. 

 

If the Jets are going back to the NYSE set (which all signs point to yes), then that's also fine. Is it basic, maybe but you can argue the Giants and Raiders wear a basic jersey and those are classics. Bottom line, it's a good jersey with a great logo and ties to their only other era that can also be considered good. 

 

I just need their current set to be gone. I needed it gone 5 years ago. It's a bad uniform with the most boring logo you can ask for. I can't even consider it a modern version of the NYSE sets because it gives more the 90s Rich Kotite era. Is that what we wanna remember or pay tribute?

Namath or NYSE, give me any of those 2. Just throw this current set away already. 

[TBGKon]

Let's be honest, those Namath era unis weren't the best since the Starter version.  Every other version was shoehorned to a template and didnt look the best.

 

 

[FiddySicks]

49 minutes ago, The Impaler said:

Put me in the category that the only constant thing with the Jets is that they consistently underwhelm with their uniforms.  For me, it all comes down to the logo on the helmet.  Right now it's garbage, but I'd say the only halfway decent logo they've ever had is the 80's era as it's the only one that has a jet on it (I forgot about that hideous logo back in the early days).  I really wish they'd get more creative with their branding and do more than just a wordmark on their helmet.  

YES. And that is so frustrating. You’re called the Jets , for Christ’s sake. Why are you trying to emulate the boring ass Giants with a script helmet rather than, I dunno, use an actual jet, which is one of the COOLEST things on the planet, as a logo? It’s legit SO easy, and they’ve fumbled the bag every single time outside of that one 80s logo which I still don’t think is all that good. 

[raz]

All things considered, that AAF Memphis Express logo ain't so bad:

[Brian E]

1 hour ago, TBGKon said:

Let's be honest, those Namath era unis weren't the best since the Starter version.  Every other version was shoehorned to a template and didnt look the best.

 

 

 

bingo. if you could assure me the 1998 version of the modern namath era could return, i'd be into it. but we'll never get that again, so c'est la vie. 

[MJD7]

5 hours ago, Carolingian Steamroller said:

The Jets were wearing the Namath era uniforms just 5 years ago. As much as I like the green helmet Jets (both the NYSE era and the early Parcels years) this to me remains my favorite look of theirs.

It's hard to believe it was really that recent, but yeah. I think what did that set in, and why so many people wanted a change (myself included) was the green becoming so unnecessarily dark and drab over the years, along with the template issues (remember the sweat stains?) and the off-white effect with the helmet, which you can see in that photo and others.

 

I do think the 2019 set upgraded the Jets in those regards, in that they got a better shade of green, and that the new helmet finish was/is pretty awesome. Everything else was kind of a wash. Implementing those changes to the Namath uniforms would have made me fine with the Jets having that as their forever uniform.

 

I personally think there is a way to combine the Namath era, the NYSE jet, and the current uniforms, though. I don't want to infest the Sports Logos discussion with a concept, and I also don't want to show all my cards before I'm ready to do the series, but it'd look something like this, just for the sake of discussion, even though it's very crude:

 

(Here's a gif for comparison's sake)

It's got the 80's era jet, with a modern touch of also adding it onto the jerseys, along with referencing the Namath era general striping style. I'd also probably remove the football from the helmet logo and add the jet back above the name. Not to mention that I'd brighten up the green even more to kelly green across the board.

 

If it were completely up to me, they'd do something like that, or simply go back to the Namath set with all of the aforementioned adjustments.

[ManillaToad]

[rfraser85]

17 hours ago, mattr1198 said:

As a Giants fan, I think given how ridiculously popular the throwbacks have been for the Giants, combined with the fact they're 4-0 in them and just look way more interesting, I think we should see the blue throwback and white color rush/throwback go full time home and road, with probably the white and red jersey becoming an alternate given the team won two super bowls in those unis.

 

I like that idea. The best thing is the Giants aren't that far away from doing this now, so they could do that anytime they want.

 

One thing I would be curious to see is a red version of the throwbacks, just to see how it would look.

[ruttep]

Even this small change with the striping could've helped with the Namath era uniforms

[JakeH28]

I personally think the Jets need to do something a bit different than just mix and match historical stuff. Obviously, they need a change, and have 2 solid options to go back to, but not everything needs to be a throwback. Here's my idea

- New helmet, old 80's logo but current colors. No shininess
- New jersey  design, striping is like the Namath era, but without the shoulder being a different color (in other words, the sack exchange stripes are angles like UCLA)
-Pants take on the Namath era stripes
-Helmet colors is where I have a divide. On one hand, both a green and white option would be nice, but I have been a fan of that black helmet ever since it got revealed. I think the white helmet is more wanted overall, so keeping that over the blackout uniform might be the right call for the Jets to make