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Shock! Contempt! Outrage!

Yesh, we all saw this coming, didn't we? Sucks for the guys who got drafted into this and had that glimmer of hope.

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I completely forgot this league was going to happen. It sounded like an interesting idea way back when, but this is hardly surprising. Whether it's now or in a year, it was almost inevitable.

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Don't look now, but the UFL may not be far behind it. I was just over at OurSportsCentral where I read a thread in which an UFL employee alleged that things were on track (team names, owners, logos, etc.) for an August 8th debut. On that I checked USPTO and found they've trademarked NOTHING, which to me says that they won't be around in 2008, or 2009 for that matter.

I'm beginning to think my "United Spring Football League" idea might be worth pursuing. Apparently there are at least a few people out there with some money they're willing to lose in pursuit of owning their own football franchise.

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Maybe someone (^^^^^^^^ :rolleyes: ) should create a website about the history of the AAFL. It shouldn't take long.

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Wow, thats really a bummer. Just the other day I caught myself up to speed on the league and saw that guys like Clint Stoerner, Tee Martin, Peter Warrick, Chris Leak, Eric Crouch, and a few more joined up to play.

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Maybe someone (^^^^^^^^ :rolleyes: ) should create a website about the history of the AAFL. It shouldn't take long.

Got to have some material to work with... besides, I'm still broke from all the money I invested in USFL stuff to put USFL.INFO together. That behind-the-scenes stuff (franchise applications, league constitution, etc.) hit my wallet. Hard.

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Don't look now, but the UFL may not be far behind it. I was just over at OurSportsCentral where I read a thread in which an UFL employee alleged that things were on track (team names, owners, logos, etc.) for an August 8th debut. On that I checked USPTO and found they've trademarked NOTHING, which to me says that they won't be around in 2008, or 2009 for that matter.

I'm beginning to think my "United Spring Football League" idea might be worth pursuing. Apparently there are at least a few people out there with some money they're willing to lose in pursuit of owning their own football franchise.

I'm not entirely sure that poster is affiliated with that league.

Yeah...UFL's in trouble, though, and not at all surprised about this happening to the AAFL (well, actually I thought they might play a game or two...)

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
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Don't look now, but the UFL may not be far behind it. I was just over at OurSportsCentral where I read a thread in which an UFL employee alleged that things were on track (team names, owners, logos, etc.) for an August 8th debut. On that I checked USPTO and found they've trademarked NOTHING, which to me says that they won't be around in 2008, or 2009 for that matter.

According to a former print journalism colleague of mine who covered the NFL combine, UFL Commissioner Michael Hyughue revealed during the combine that his league had made a decision to push back its kick-off to August of 2009. Huyghue said that the move was made in order to line-up the last two franchises for an anticipated eight-team launch. He also alluded to the fact that additional ownership candidates and representatives of potential markets have been approaching the league, meaning that the 2009 launch will take place with a minimum of eight franchises.

As for whether "ItsNotScottishThenItsCrap" is actually a UFL employee, I'm going to surmise - based on the tone and content of his post - that's not the case.

Of course, as is always the case with these ventures, we shall see.

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Don't look now, but the UFL may not be far behind it. I was just over at OurSportsCentral where I read a thread in which an UFL employee alleged that things were on track (team names, owners, logos, etc.) for an August 8th debut. On that I checked USPTO and found they've trademarked NOTHING, which to me says that they won't be around in 2008, or 2009 for that matter.

According to a former print journalism colleague of mine who covered the NFL combine, UFL Commissioner Michael Hyughue revealed during the combine that his league had made a decision to push back its kick-off to August of 2009. Huyghue said that the move was made in order to line-up the last two franchises for an anticipated eight-team launch. He also alluded to the fact that additional ownership candidates and representatives of potential markets have been approaching the league, meaning that the 2009 launch will take place with a minimum of eight franchises.

As for whether "ItsNotScottishThenItsCrap" is actually a UFL employee, I'm going to surmise - based on the tone and content of his post - that's not the case.

Of course, as is always the case with these ventures, we shall see.

Oh I have no doubt the alleged employee (and I forgot to include the term alleged in my original post, my bad) was a hoax; I figured that out as soon as I did the USPTO search.

The search itself is the telling thing here, guys. Trademarks can now be filed electronically via the internet, whereas a quarter century ago it was a pretty lengthy process. The USFL had their trademarks - all of them for the original dozen teams - registered almost a year in advance of the league's debut. Unless I'm missing something in the USPTO searching I've done, the UFL hasn't even trademarked their league logo yet.

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The search itself is the telling thing here, guys. Trademarks can now be filed electronically via the internet, whereas a quarter century ago it was a pretty lengthy process. The USFL had their trademarks - all of them for the original dozen teams - registered almost a year in advance of the league's debut. Unless I'm missing something in the USPTO searching I've done, the UFL hasn't even trademarked their league logo yet.

I haven't read too much in to that, Mac. It strikes me that guys like William Hambrecht, Tim Armstrong and Mark Cuban aren't overly interested in what the league's initial logo is going to be. They're much more likely to be interested in what the individual franchise brands are, as those names and logos will be counted upon to generate revenue through licensed product sales. As you pointed out, the trademarks of the USFL franchises were "registered almost a year in advance" of that league's debut. The UFL still has time to play with to match that feat. Not much time, but some.

As for the UFL's current logo, I'm surmising that they haven't trademarked it along with the league's name because they're going to dump it once they've hired a top-notch branding outfit to work on the team identities. The league's current logo looks like a ClipArt, football-version knock-off of the MLB and NBA logos. It was probably thrown together so that the league would have something to accompany its name at the initial announcement. When - okay, if - the UFL finally gets the signatures of committed owners on the dotted line, the initial investors will okay the hiring of a branding firm. Then we'll see said investors actually spend the dough to trademark everything - including a professionally-designed league logo - in one fell swoop.

I still say it is 50/50 - at best - that the UFL ever plays a down of football. If it does actually kick-off in August of 2009, I say that it lasts three seasons - tops - trying to go head-to-head with the NFL and college football in the fall. That said, Michael Huyghue has indicated that the league will make a major announcement at the end of March regarding the location of the first six franchises, the identity of the first six ownership groups and the details surrounding the league's broadcast deal. If there's another postponement announced at that time, "stick a fork in" the league - it's done. If franchise sites, owners and a broadcast deal are announced, then we'll start to see some concrete movement on the identity front.

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I'm not surprised the AAFL folded, although it would probably be a week or two into the season.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if the UFL moves to spring of '09, now that it's spring competion is over and done with.

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Actually, I don't think the AAFL has said that they're officially folding...... at least not yet.

This is just one of those "wait-and-see" situations.

No....this league's dead. All that's left is the tasteful funeral, and the coroner to show up and officially say as much.

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
Today, we are all otaku.

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