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Steve DeBerg... even though the guy is probably in his 50s by now, if I found out he was holding the clipboard for any NFL QB (or even starting for someone like the Browns or Bills), it probably wouldn't surprise me in the least.

He's the white Vince Evans.

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Would Kenny Lofton fit?

I'd say no, but to me this should be reserved for true journeyman.

I look at people like Jerry Reuss, Marcus Camby, they can play for my team if nobody else wants them. To me this is for guys you could take or leave, but just managed to last a long time.

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Would Kenny Lofton fit?

I initially thought about him as well, but really, he wouldn't fit on this list IMO. He was a really good player for quite some time and was a pretty important part of several World Series teams. He even scored the game winning run in the clinching game vs the Cardinals in the 2002 NLCS

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Joe Ferguson (1973-1990,1995), the Steve DeBerg of Buffalo, and Detroit, and Tampa Bay, and Indianapolis (and a brief comeback at the age of 45 with the CFL).

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Joe Ferguson (1973-1990,1995), the Steve DeBerg of Buffalo, and Detroit, and Tampa Bay, and Indianapolis (and a brief comeback at the age of 45 with the CFL).

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There were more than a couple years early in his career when Ferguson was considered one of the better QB's in the league. I don't know if I'd call his career quiet.

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Joe Ferguson (1973-1990,1995), the Steve DeBerg of Buffalo, and Detroit, and Tampa Bay, and Indianapolis (and a brief comeback at the age of 45 with the CFL).

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There were more than a couple years early in his career when Ferguson was considered one of the better QB's in the league. I don't know if I'd call his career quiet.

You trade Joe Ferguson straight up for Terry Bradshaw and Ferguson might very well be in the Hall of Fame.

Like I said earlier though, to me the topic has already gotten watered down with too many good players. To me someone like Gary Danielson would be a much better example. 11 year NFL career. Decent QB, but nobody would be saying boy if we got someone like Gary Danielson under center it could really take us to that next level as a team. I could see someone saying that with Joe Ferguson given the right scenario. He was a really good QB that just happened to play for a really bad football team. Unless you had someone like a Roger Staubach or a Fran Tarkenton or a Dan Fouts on your team, he was at least as good as whoever your starting QB was.

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Steve DeBerg... even though the guy is probably in his 50s by now, if I found out he was holding the clipboard for any NFL QB (or even starting for someone like the Browns or Bills), it probably wouldn't surprise me in the least.

He's the white Vince Evans.

I knew who Vince Evans was (mainly USFL and Raiders - but looked him up on Wikipedia just for sharts and gargles) but I'm going to go ahead and make the claim that he currently has the shortest Wikipedia page of any post-WWII player in any major league sport that played 15+ years. 1977-1995? Jesus Christ.

And this is ALL there is to say about him:

"Vincent Tobias Evans (born June 14, 1955, in Greensboro, North Carolina) is a former professional American football quarterback who was selected by the Chicago Bears in the sixth round (140th overall pick) of the 1977 NFL Draft. Evans, who played collegiately at USC, played for the Bears, the USFL's Chicago Blitz and Denver Gold, and for the Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders in a career that spanned nearly 20 years from 1977 to 1995. Evans is the only player of the Chicago Bears to score a perfect quarterback rating in a game, doing so against the Green Bay Packers in 1980, completing 18 of 22 passes for 316 yards and three touchdowns. The game marked the first time since 1970 that a Bears quarterback threw for more than 300 yards.[1] Evans' son attended Winston Churchill and played football there. Vince Jr. currently plays football at Whittier and is a member of the class of 2012. Vince has a daughter named Krista Evans. She currently goes to Whittier Christian Junior High in Whittier California.

In 1976 he threw for 1,440 yards with 10 TD vs 6 INT. He also completed 53.7% of his passes.[2]"

Career NFL stats (1977-1983, 1987-1995): 52 TD/74 INT, 9,485 yards in 100 games played and 39 games started. THAT'S mediocre. Personally, I think we have a winner.

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Steve DeBerg... even though the guy is probably in his 50s by now, if I found out he was holding the clipboard for any NFL QB (or even starting for someone like the Browns or Bills), it probably wouldn't surprise me in the least.

He's the white Vince Evans.

I knew who Vince Evans was (mainly USFL and Raiders - but looked him up on Wikipedia just for sharts and gargles) but I'm going to go ahead and make the claim that he currently has the shortest Wikipedia page of any post-WWII player in any major league sport that played 15+ years. 1977-1995? Jesus Christ.

And this is ALL there is to say about him:

"Vincent Tobias Evans (born June 14, 1955, in Greensboro, North Carolina) is a former professional American football quarterback who was selected by the Chicago Bears in the sixth round (140th overall pick) of the 1977 NFL Draft. Evans, who played collegiately at USC, played for the Bears, the USFL's Chicago Blitz and Denver Gold, and for the Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders in a career that spanned nearly 20 years from 1977 to 1995. Evans is the only player of the Chicago Bears to score a perfect quarterback rating in a game, doing so against the Green Bay Packers in 1980, completing 18 of 22 passes for 316 yards and three touchdowns. The game marked the first time since 1970 that a Bears quarterback threw for more than 300 yards.[1] Evans' son attended Winston Churchill and played football there. Vince Jr. currently plays football at Whittier and is a member of the class of 2012. Vince has a daughter named Krista Evans. She currently goes to Whittier Christian Junior High in Whittier California.

In 1976 he threw for 1,440 yards with 10 TD vs 6 INT. He also completed 53.7% of his passes.[2]"

Career NFL stats (1977-1983, 1987-1995): 52 TD/74 INT, 9,485 yards in 100 games played and 39 games started. THAT'S mediocre. Personally, I think we have a winner.

The only QB I can think of with longevity like that and worse career numbers is Don Strock.

Unfortunately Stock had to go ahead and go toe to toe against Dan Fouts in the Epic in Miami, which I think disqualifies him from the list.

I have no idea how Vince Evans lasted as long as he did. You want a prime example of what a true NFL backup QB is, Vince Evans is about as good of an example as you'll fine.

And his middle name is Tobias.

Per Arrested Development:

Lindsay: People hear the name Tobias, they think ‘big black guy.’

Tobias: Well, obviously, I’m not a big guy.

So maybe he is Vince Evans after all.

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Dave Andreychuk played for over 20 years in the NHL and made (I think) two All-Star teams. Aside from his cup run in 2004 and using Toronto in NHL '96 for Super Nintendo, I didn't hear know or hear about him at all.

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