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If I need to look it up to figure out how to pronounce it, it's a bad name. Not that I'll need to know how to pronounce it anytime soon, given the tenor of the labor talks.

On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said:

For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA.

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I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll play. The Fire (minus their union reps) getting on the plane is good news since word is they had a contingency plan to fly out tomorrow if necessary. It sounds like nothing is expected to happen until later this afternoon though.

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Yeah, this seems like incremental steps.

Free agency went from one single eligible player to affecting somewhere near 10% of the league. The owners wanted an 8-year deal, the players held out and got 5. The minimum salary went to a liveable wage, but didn't increase anywhere near commensurate with the bump in television revenues.

So steps in the right direction, but not fantastic progress. Laying a foundation. I can see where current players would be disappointed, since many won't see the real improvements during their careers.

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Yeah, this seems like incremental steps.

Free agency went from one single eligible player to affecting somewhere near 10% of the league. The owners wanted an 8-year deal, the players held out and got 5. The minimum salary went to a liveable wage, but didn't increase anywhere near commensurate with the bump in television revenues.

So steps in the right direction, but not fantastic progress. Laying a foundation. I can see where current players would be disappointed, since many won't see the real improvements during their careers.

Cap increases from $3.1M (last season) to $4.2M by 2019.

Unnamed player is correct. 84% of the union voted to radify the last CBA, I wonder how much lower this vote will be.

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Yeah, this seems like incremental steps.

Free agency went from one single eligible player to affecting somewhere near 10% of the league. The owners wanted an 8-year deal, the players held out and got 5. The minimum salary went to a liveable wage, but didn't increase anywhere near commensurate with the bump in television revenues.

So steps in the right direction, but not fantastic progress. Laying a foundation. I can see where current players would be disappointed, since many won't see the real improvements during their careers.

Let's be honest, in these negotiations, the chips were stacked against the players to begin with. I understand the players are disappointed with what they got, but when they have almost zero leverage, they were never going to go from "nothing" to "everything".

The most valuable thing players won in these negotiations is a foothold in the most important areas and a short deal that will allow them to push the boundaries further next time. If in 2020 the players can get the minimum salary to 100K, bring the FA rule down to 6-7 years, and a salary cap of 5M, that's a really good foundation for a growing league.

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When both sides aren't happy, it's usually a good CBA.

As for the players' union, they'll be happy when they can re-open it in 5yrs based on tv revenue (right?). However, enough of the current vets won't be around to see that money, thus they jussst missed the money boat.

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Good for Jozy to start the season with two goals. Too bad he couldn't get there with Sunderland.

I picked up an inaugural NYCFC scarf today. I tell you, the team has a pretty slick identity across the board.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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