GriffinM6 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Rays need to move somewhere. I see no need to expand really. It's a shame Nashville couldn't be considered, because they just got a new ballpark for the AAA team. The sports fans there seem pretty faithful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 It is strange that no Triple A sites are natural fits for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTknight Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 First of all I don't think MLB need to expand but if they did I think you would have to consider Omaha. They have a stadium that is already built which puts them ahead of a lot of other places. I don't know if the population or corporate base would be strong enough but I think they would have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C's Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Omaha has a tiny population and they don't have a fervent interest in the sport to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I presume you mean the CWS stadium, right? Was that built toLB specs, with luxury boxes and points of sale and all that? If not, how much will it cost to get it there? That stadium might not be as ready as you think. And even if it is, Omaha is really small. It's MSA barely breaks 900,000, making it the 60th largest metro area in the country. Half the size of the smallest big-league market right now. I don't see any way Omaha merits serious consideration. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 It is strange that no Triple A sites are natural fits for promotion.Not really. I just looked at the list of AAA cities, and they're AAA for a reason. The only ones that even (without any research) seem to even be a tiny bit possible would be the TN teams, and maybe a little tiny bit if a retractable dome could be built but even then not really New Orleans.I was actually doing some unrelated research a while ago, and was surprised how fast Alburquerque is growing and how much money is coming in to the area. I hate the idea of baseball in areas where there's a lot of sprawl and not really much of a core, but in the future, it's possible that Alb. could be a part of this discussion. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C's Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 New Orleans is tapped out. Maybe if the Pelihornets had been relocated a few years ago, you could squeeze MLB in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFan4Life Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Im guessing there's no chance but I would be cool to see pro baseball return to Louisville after a 116 year absence. Though I doubt you'd have many returning fans from the last team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 It is strange that no Triple A sites are natural fits for promotion. Not really. I just looked at the list of AAA cities, and they're AAA for a reason. The only ones that even (without any research) seem to even be a tiny bit possible would be the TN teams, and maybe a little tiny bit if a retractable dome could be built but even then not really New Orleans. I was actually doing some unrelated research a while ago, and was surprised how fast Alburquerque is growing and how much money is coming in to the area. I hate the idea of baseball in areas where there's a lot of sprawl and not really much of a core, but in the future, it's possible that Alb. could be a part of this discussion. Albuquerque's fairly landlocked. I'm not sure how much more it's going to grow (outside of the Rio Rancho area anyway). On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 It is strange that no Triple A sites are natural fits for promotion. Not really. I just looked at the list of AAA cities, and they're AAA for a reason. The only ones that even (without any research) seem to even be a tiny bit possible would be the TN teams, and maybe a little tiny bit if a retractable dome could be built but even then not really New Orleans.I was actually doing some unrelated research a while ago, and was surprised how fast Alburquerque is growing and how much money is coming in to the area. I hate the idea of baseball in areas where there's a lot of sprawl and not really much of a core, but in the future, it's possible that Alb. could be a part of this discussion.Yeah, the Triple A teams that are "major league" in other sports just don't seem to fit the bill for 81 additional pro home dates.Someone else mentioned Nashville, too. I guess that's as close as it gets, but isn't really. Albuquerque is an interesting sleeper pick down the line.It all adds up to MLB apparently being right-sized, if not a bit bloated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I'm probably going to sound like a homer, but if we're talking Albuquerque, Omaha, OKC, and Las Vegas at least at some point in the future, then Salt Lake City also merits discussion, if nothing else than a dark horse. It ranks 34th in market size--on par with Cincinnati and Milwaukee--and has a fairly extensive minor-league history.I believe Smith's Ballpark (home of the AAA PCL's Bees) has a capacity of ~15k, among the largest in the minors, and the late Larry H. Miller (who owned the Utah Jazz) did express some interest in building a stadium, possibly on the site of Smith's Ballpark. (Though I'll admit, I don't know how that attitude has carried onto his widow, kids, and others running the corporation he founded.) AKA @LanRovr0 on Twitter LED Sig Credits to packerfan21396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 We've already talked about why Omaha is a non-starter. Albuquerque isn't much better. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I've been saying it for years on here because it's my ultimate dream, but Sacramento, California is probably the only AAA city that could support a team right now if they absolutely had to. But they're More of a landing spot for the A's if they get themselves into a pinch. As much as I'd like to see it, Northern California wouldn't have the interest or resources to support three major league teams. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 It is strange that no Triple A sites are natural fits for promotion.I've been saying it for years on here because it's my ultimate dream, but Sacramento, California is probably the only AAA city that could support a team right now if they absolutely had to. But they're More of a landing spot for the A's if they get themselves into a pinch. As much as I'd like to see it, Northern California wouldn't have the interest or resources to support three major league teams.I agree that the A's proximity to Sacramento makes them an unlikely candidate, but among current AAA-level markets, I think several of them, and other cities that don't even currently have AAA teams, could be "bumped up" to Major League status:SAN ANTONIO, INDIANAPOLIS, COLUMBUS (Ohio), NASHVILLE, OKLAHOMA CITY, RALEIGH. 7th, 14th, 15th, 25th, 27th and 43d largest cities in population, each with no spring competition for major league-level corporate sponsorship and entertainment dollars/disposable income. MEMPHIS, PORTLAND, LAS VEGAS, LOUISVILLE, ALBUQUERQUE. 23d, 28th, 29th, 30th, 32d largest cities in population, each with no major league-level competition for corporate sponsorship and entertainment dollars, period.By comparison, existing MLB markets include Baltimore (26th in population), Milwaukee (31st), Kansas City (37th), Atlanta (39th), Miami (44th), Oakland (45th), Minneapolis (46th), Cleveland (48th), Arlington Texas (51st), Tampa (53d), Anaheim (56th), St. Louis (60th), Pittsburgh (62d) and Cincinnati (65th).In each case, the metro areas around the markets (both existing and potential) merely add to the marketability of the market where MLB is concerned. I honestly think Major League Baseball could make a major expansion, not just to 32 teams, if it chose to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Mac, just go by metro populations. A lot of those Southern and Western cities boosted their populations by eating their suburbs. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C's Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 MEMPHIS, PORTLAND, LAS VEGAS, LOUISVILLE, ALBUQUERQUE. 23d, 28th, 29th, 30th, 32d largest cities in population, each with no major league-level competition for corporate sponsorship and entertainment dollars, period.Well first, I wonder what the Grizzlies and Trail Blazers have to say about this.Second... city populations? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 MEMPHIS, PORTLAND, LAS VEGAS, LOUISVILLE, ALBUQUERQUE. 23d, 28th, 29th, 30th, 32d largest cities in population, each with no major league-level competition for corporate sponsorship and entertainment dollars, period.Well first, I wonder what the Grizzlies and Trail Blazers have to say about this.The NBA is a fall/winter league, MLB a spring/summer league. The teams wouldn't be in direct competition. Overall? Sure, but it's better then going head to head. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C's Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 The NBA is a fall/winter league, MLB a spring/summer league. The teams wouldn't be in direct competition. Overall? Sure, but it's better then going head to head.Per his post, San Antonio, OKC, Indy, Raleigh, Nashville, and Columbus all have spring competition for potential MLB franchises, but Memphis and Portland don't. Not be a dink but I'm pretty sure he either forgot or didn't know that the latter two cities have major league teams just like the former six. Which was kinda my point (well that and correcting him).And I know when each league is in season, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Memphis is a non-starter. The city just doesn't have the income to support more than one major league team. Of the AAA cities, I think the only ones worth even considering are Sacramento, Nashville, and Charlotte. And I don't see the appetite for publicly financed MLB stadiums in any of those cities since they all just built new venues (SAC the arena, NAS/CHA the AAA parks). The A's likely would possibly have moved years ago if they had anywhere to go. "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 The NBA is a fall/winter league, MLB a spring/summer league. The teams wouldn't be in direct competition. Overall? Sure, but it's better then going head to head.Per his post, San Antonio, OKC, Indy, Raleigh, Nashville, and Columbus all have spring competition for potential MLB franchises, but Memphis and Portland don't. Not be a dink but I'm pretty sure he either forgot or didn't know that the latter two cities have major league teams just like the former five. Which was kinda my point (well that and correcting him).So not to be a dink...but you were a dink. Got it. There are more polite ways to correct someone.And I know when each league is in season, thanks.See the above re: politeness I was merely pointing out that the Grizzlies and Blazers wouldn't be in direct competition with hypothetical MLB teams in Memphis and Portland due to the differences in schedule. Don't insinuate otherwise if you don't want people reminding you what times of the year the two leagues are in season for. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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