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10 minutes ago, the admiral said:

If this team moves to Las Vegas I'm done with all sports forever.

From last week...

https://www.ktnv.com/news/tweets-about-mlb-stadium-replacing-rio-drive-internet-wild

 

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A pair of tweets by the closely-watched Vital Vegas Twitter account has set off a firestorm of speculation about the possibility of Major League Baseball coming to Las Vegas and a stadium being built where the Rio hotel-casino currently stands.

 

Vital Vegas, which is ran by Scott Roeben, also reported last month that Caesars Entertainment is hot to sell the off-Strip property and it appears the resort may be preparing for a sale by scaling back some of its offerings and laying off some of its employees.

 

Roeben said in an interview with KTNV that his sources close to the deal say the sale of the Rio will likely go through in the next few months. He said the success of the Golden Knights has given investors a reason to move on the deal.

 

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I see one of three things happening here ...

 

1) The Angels build a new stadium near the current park with city funding (partial, all, etc).

2) The Angels move to Downtown LA (is the convention center where State Farms Field was going to be built open?)

3) The Angels con a local LAC or OC city to build them a stadium or give them a sweetheart deal.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the Angels did move to Downtown LA if Anaheim pursued a MLB team like the A's or Rays to play in a renovated or new park (at the Big A location).

 

21 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

 

Do you think Vegas could get another Bay Area team? The Vegas A's?

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1 hour ago, NicDB said:


That never stopped the NBA or NFL from loading more teams into the LA market than should reasonably be there.

Because the New York and Los Angeles markets are large enough that they can handle two teams. Thats why MLB, NFL, MLS, NBA have two clubs for those markets. The NHL has three in the New York market, which I honestly think is overkill but its working. Southern California has the Dodgers, and Angels  and even the Padres about 2 and half hours away in San Diego. Putting a fourth club in SoCal would be oversaturation of the market. There are also other markets in the US and Canada that deserve and could support a MLB club than adding a third club to Los Angeles.

 

The issue with Los Angeles in the NFL is that nobody in LA wanted the Chargers. They have embraced the Rams as they previously played in the market for years and they wanted the Raiders to return. Had the Raiders moved to LA instead of the Chargers both clubs would have thrived in LA and we could have seen the Chargers either stay in San Diego or head for Las Vegas.

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26 minutes ago, kimball said:

I see one of three things happening here ...

 

1) The Angels build a new stadium near the current park with city funding (partial, all, etc).

2) The Angels move to Downtown LA (is the convention center where State Farms Field was going to be built open?)

3) The Angels con a local LAC or OC city to build them a stadium or give them a sweetheart deal.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the Angels did move to Downtown LA if Anaheim pursued a MLB team like the A's or Rays to play in a renovated or new park (at the Big A location).

 

 

Do you think Vegas could get another Bay Area team? The Vegas A's?

 

We can eliminate option 2 off the bat (no pun intended)...there's really no room in DTLA (particularly in that Staples/Convention Center/LA Live area), and the Dodgers play just outside of the western fringes of DTLA (essentially midway between DTLA and Hollywood), but still close enough for them to take issue having another team a just few miles away.  Hell, the area around Staples has been construction-hell for the last few years, just with five new highrises being built to the west of Staples, on 12th Street, between Figueroa and Flower Streets.

 

The last time this topic came up, I mentioned before that Ed Roski, after his City of Industry football stadium plan failed, tried to lure the Angels up the 57 freeway to a build a stadium complex on the Grand Crossing site, the closest Arte could perhaps ever get to Los Angeles proper, but still across the county line.  Of course, that in part was used in the last negotiations with Anaheim.

 

LMU properly stated why the Angels won't leave the L.A. market--Rupert Murdoch's annual $150 million check to Arte Moreno each spring.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Wings said:

 

Wait until America becomes one giant dystopian Las Vegas. 

 

Massive waste of resources? An entire economy based around paying people very little to accommodate the ultra wealthy? Poorly planned transportation system? Fattening foods and chains as far as you can see?

 

Not sure about your "until" there.

 

I know that there are municipalities that like the idea of baseball, but I can't imagine any North American city (even Montreal?) paying for a new baseball stadium. In 2018 I feel like we're all smarter than building single-use stadiums for a sport that has evolved into four teams competing against the rest aggressively not.

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1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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11 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

Massive waste of resources? An entire economy based around paying people very little to accommodate the ultra wealthy? Poorly planned transportation system? Fattening foods and chains as far as you can see?

 

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11 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

 

Massive waste of resources? An entire economy based around paying people very little to accommodate the ultra wealthy? Poorly planned transportation system? Fattening foods and chains as far as you can see?

 

Not sure about your "until" there.

 

I know that there are municipalities that like the idea of baseball, but I can't imagine any North American city (even Montreal?) paying for a new baseball stadium. In 2018 I feel like we're all smarter than building single-use stadiums for a sport that has evolved into four teams competing against the rest aggressively not.

 

I was being optimistic. Lol.

 

I totally agree that any city shouldn't fork over taxpayer to build stadiums for the ultra wealthy and Mark Davis. 

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23 minutes ago, The Six said:

 

We have?

 

We have.

 

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Look, the Angels aren’t moving to LA proper. There’s no space and no one willing. I actually think it could be kind of detrimental considering that large majority of the fan base they’ve built is to the South (OC) and to the East (Riverside) of DTLA. And I’ll guarantee the majority of those people aren’t driving up to LA for 81 games a year.

 

The City of Industry/Grand Crossing idea is interesting, but that 57/60 interchange is its own special kind of hell without something actually going on there. Elsewhere in the IE would be interesting too, but again, you start to alienate the core of Angel fans that currently exist in OC. Taking the 91 out of OC at 5 pm any day of the week again is a special kind of hell.

 

The only in-OC/non-Anaheim option that was ever sort of seriously pursued was Tustin. Which I mean there’s space to do it and it’s actually closer to where I live, however, Tustin also isn’t coughing up any public dollars and putting a professional stadium in Tustin is... weird. Just weird. You’re really getting into suburbia at that point. And if anything, it’d give them even less claim to “Los Angeles” than they already have.

 

So, it’s Anaheim or bust, I think. I probably overreacted in the first post because I was kind of seeing red, no pun intended. Something will get worked out. Whether it’s upgrades or building in the parking lot, something will happen.

 

But if not, really, kick rocks Arte. It’d be one way to kill the baseball in this sports fan.

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29 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

 

Massive waste of resources? An entire economy based around paying people very little to accommodate the ultra wealthy? Poorly planned transportation system? Fattening foods and chains as far as you can see?

 

We could turn the US into Macau - an entire country(ish place) of casinos.

 

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So to recap...

The Mariners are squawking about their corporately whored stadium.

The Diamondbacks want out of their corporately whored stadium.

The Rays want out of their corporately whored stadium, and now

The Angels want out of their stadium that's so old they can't whore it.

 

So let's move 'em around...

Los Angeles gets the Rays.

Tampa gets the Mariners.

Arizona gets the Angels.

Seattle gets the Diamondbacks.

 

Just for the lulz.

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