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Can't see any team moving to Connecticut either.

The Red Sox, Yankees and Mets would all throw :censored: fits if a team was even thinking about it.

I think Connecticut could support a team, but the chances of a team coming to Connecticut are about zero because those three teams would never let it happen.

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Yeah, if MLB was going to plunk a team down in the middle of other teams' territory, it wouldn't be Connecticut. Not enough upside. It would have to be some place like... oh, I don't know...

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It's right there on the tip of my tongue...

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Some major sports-crazy metropolitan area. A place with its own civic identity and a booming population...

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A major media outlet that could easily absorb another team...

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I'll have to get back to you. :P

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Nevermind that it's in the Mets and Yankees territory and they'd never allow it... Enjoy the Cyclones because it's the only team Brooklyn is going to be getting.

With money, anything is possible. Suppose a new team in Brooklyn would cede a majority of broadcast rights to the Mets/Yankees (a la MASN in Washington/Baltimore). This would allow the existing teams to either make their current broadcast deals more valuable (YES/SNY) or create a new sports network to broadcast the Brooklyn team's games (from which they would receive the majority of the proceeds).

That's not to say it will happen, merely that it's possible. IMO, more possible than seeing an MLB team in one of the half-dozen small-time markets that keep getting mentioned.

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Nevermind that it's in the Mets and Yankees territory and they'd never allow it... Enjoy the Cyclones because it's the only team Brooklyn is going to be getting.

With money, anything is possible. Suppose a new team in Brooklyn would cede a majority of broadcast rights to the Mets/Yankees (a la MASN in Washington/Baltimore). This would allow the existing teams to either make their current broadcast deals more valuable (YES/SNY) or create a new sports network to broadcast the Brooklyn team's games (from which they would receive the majority of the proceeds).

That's not to say it will happen, merely that it's possible. IMO, more possible than seeing an MLB team in one of the half-dozen small-time markets that keep getting mentioned.

I don't think so. You don't cede television rights in the modern era as that's where a large chunk of your revenue comes from.

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Broadcast territory only matters when teams claim media markets outside their city but without teams of their own. Case in point the Orioles and Washington. Local clubs share without problem: Dodgers/Angels in LA, Cubs/White Sox in Chicago, Yankees/Mets/Rays in New York.

Keep in mind, I wasn't seriously suggesting that the Rays could, should or will be moved to Brooklyn. I was responding to the notion that they could be moved to Connecticut.

New Jersey would make more sense than Brooklyn if they are going to invade the Mets and Yankees territory.

Jersey makes even less sense than Connecticut. :P

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_and_Canadian_cities_by_number_of_major_professional_sports_franchises

The only unserved metro larger than Tampa Bay is, of all places, Montreal!

I didn't realize metro Toronto was smaller than metro Detroit. Thought the GTA would be #7 or #8. Maybe it depends on whether you count Hamilton, Kitchener, etc.

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I don't think so. You don't cede television rights in the modern era as that's where a large chunk of your revenue comes from.

1.) There's precedent in the Washington/Baltimore situation. It's been done before.

2.) New York might be the one market where even a 40% stake in TV rights would be worth more than a 100% stake in TV rights elsewhere.

3.) If it's the only way to get a third team in the New York market and MLB/Yankees/Mets want it to happen (ie, it's profitable for all parties), they'll likely find a way to make it happen.

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I don't think so. You don't cede television rights in the modern era as that's where a large chunk of your revenue comes from.

1.) There's precedent in the Washington/Baltimore situation. It's been done before.

2.) New York might be the one market where even a 40% stake in TV rights would be worth more than a 100% stake in TV rights elsewhere.

3.) If it's the only way to get a third team in the New York market and MLB/Yankees/Mets want it to happen (ie, it's profitable for all parties), they'll likely find a way to make it happen.

In the Washington-Baltimore situation, Peter Angelos was very adamant that any team moving into "his territory" would have to compensate him in some way, thus the situation with the MASN ownership. From my understanding, the Nationals' ownership stake in MASN increases by one percent each year up to 20 percent. Seeing that Washington is a bigger television market than Baltimore, the Nats' MASN stake as it stands is very valuable.

As to point 3...you should also count in Madison Square Garden in wanting a third NYC-area team, solely because they need the summer programming for their networks, besides Red Bulls and Liberty games.

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The Red Sox fan in me is all "MUHAHAHAHAHA" but the sane person in me is all "Man. If they relocate, I really feel for those fans. They battled through all the crap this team put up for the first 10 years of its existence, getting to see their fandom start to pay off with a winning product on the turf, only to see it taken away from them because there were too few of them. That sucks for them".

If the team does move, I'm rooting for a return to Montreal and Brooklyn.

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  • 1 year later...

Bud Selig calls for a resolution to the Rays stadium woes, but say relocation is not an option.

http://ballparkdigest.com/201308156528/major-league-baseball/news/selig-time-to-resolve-tampa-bay-rays-ballpark-situation

More talk from Bud without any action. He still needs to do something about the A's. They could've been in San Jose by now.

As for the Rays, if they could get out of their lease, I think they should at least consider relocation.

Candidates could include:

Omaha - TD Ameritrade Park is expandable to 35,000, the most move-in-ready option

Montreal - They want baseball back, but Olympic Stadium is in bas shape

Orlando - Would keep the Rays near their fan base, Champion Stadium for temp. home

San Antonio - They're considering a new expandable stadium downtown for the Missions

Portland - Without any baseball since the Beavers left, but no ballpark

Las Vegas - They are also considering an expandable AAA stadium, but gambling is an issue

Charlotte - The brand new BB&T Ballpark could be expanded

Nashville - They haven't been able to get a new minor league stadium built

Newark - I think New York could support a third team, but there are territorial issues

Long shots - Monterrey or Mexico City, San Juan, Norfolk, Vancouver, Austin, Hartford, Louisville

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I would love to see them in Montreal as Expos 2.0, but I doubt that'll happen. I'd also be over the moon to see them in Jersey, as a 3rd team but I doubt Sternberg wants to pay the Yanks damages a la Nats in D.C. to Baltimore.

Omaha won't happen. Too small a market for 81 home dates.

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