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2 hours ago, FrutigerAero said:

I'll bet that dude loved the Coliseum.  

 

100% chance he will be at the A's final game at the Coliseum to collect a commemorative baseball.   

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58 minutes ago, McCall said:

Can't wait for those City Connect uniforms... 😐

 

DISconnect?🤔

 

Best "Connection" will just be raiding the closet of the apartment they're squatting in. Major League RiverCats, baby.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, GDAWG said:

RIP Major League Sports in Oakland, California (1960-2024)

 

The Roots/Soul could really feast if they could get a solid stadium setup in Oakland proper, I think. Seems like the sort of community where lower-league soccer could thrive, especially with the MLS offering being a moribund franchise out where it is. 

   

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23 minutes ago, Digby said:

 

Best "Connection" will just be raiding the closet of the apartment they're squatting in. Major League RiverCats, baby.


I’ve thought about this, and while I wish the city could’ve demanded that they changed their name to the Sacramento RiverCats (I get that it’s a crazy and unreasonable idea), them playing a game or two in RiverCats “Throwbacks” would be close enough, and would fulfill one of my oldest sports fantasies. 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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6 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

I hate everything about the way this A's situation is going, starting with the fact that they're going anywhere. Moving north (i.e., away from Vegas) into a 14,000-seat stadium to play in a city of people that will probably be Giants fans after this shakes out is bad enough. But for three years?  Will anyone even remember this franchise when they get to Vegas?

 

If I lived in Sacramento, I'd definitely go to some games. The A's may be the A's but they'll have opponents worth watching. But it would not endear me to the team. It would just be a temporary thing to do for three summers. All of this is a bad look, including the fact that they can't play in a temporary setting in their new city because their new city is too hot to play outdoor baseball in.

Most of the people I know in Sac are already Giants fans and have been that way for at least the last 15 years or so.

 

It's also arguably too hot to play outdoor baseball in their soon-to-be temporary home.  Players are going to love playing in 115 on a Sunday afternoon in August in Sacramento.

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1 hour ago, FiddySicks said:


I’ve thought about this, and while I wish the city could’ve demanded that they changed their name to the Sacramento RiverCats (I get that it’s a crazy and unreasonable idea), them playing a game or two in RiverCats “Throwbacks” would be close enough, and would fulfill one of my oldest sports fantasies. 

How about this (not serious). We dissolve the Athletics.   A different AAA team every year gets a turn to be a "major league" team.  RiverCats are first up.

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8 hours ago, GDAWG said:

 

According to Front Office Sports:

 

 

For a union as powerful as the MLBPA, they have been very silent on the whole A's relocation.  

 

Probably because it’s this or they disband the A’s for 4 seasons. They’d rather a crap situation to no jobs for a team’s worth of players. 

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8 hours ago, FiddySicks said:


Gross. We don’t want them. 
 

All this is going to do is :censored: up the long term viability of the RiverCats. I can’t see them sticking around during this stretch to try and directly compete with a MLB team who shares their field. I’m not even sure the league would allow that, as the RiverCats not only can but absolutely would outdraw the A’s the vast majority of those three years. 
 

They’re using this as a “trial run for a MLB team in Sac” and I’m sorry but lol what? They couldn’t even get the soccer team off of the ground and now that’s completely out of reach because of the $500 million expansion fee. And now they want to try and pivot to MLB expansion? 🤣🤣🤣 sure, Sacramento. 
 

 

This whole thing is a terribly half baked idea put out by the two dumbest sports ownership groups (Kings and A’s) in the state of California. 

 

The Rivercats are who invited them. This won’t screw the Rivercats long term. Heck this is a back door way for Sac to make a run at the A’s when Vegas inevitably fails to materialize. 

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22 minutes ago, bosrs1 said:

 

The Rivercats are who invited them. This won’t screw the Rivercats long term. Heck this is a back door way for Sac to make a run at the A’s when Vegas inevitably fails to materialize. 


Yeah I think that’s ultimately the plan. I don’t think it’s going to work, though. Then Sacramento is going to also be stuck with a huge mess. 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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If Vegas fails to materialize: A 35,000 seat retractable roof park in Sacramento, built next to Sutter Health Park (which would be demolished). Vivek Ranadive luring his old buddy Joe Lacob to buy in. Just a vivid thought.

 

I see that old Arco Arco Arena II (Sleep Train Pavilion) has been demolished and the land (including the old baseball cement slab/swamp pond) will be turned into a hospital. 

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1 minute ago, BottomlessPitt said:

If Vegas fails to materialize: A 35,000 seat retractable roof park in Sacramento, built next to Sutter Health Park (which would be demolished). Vivek Ranadive luring his old buddy Joe Lacob to buy in. Just a vivid thought. 


Pipe dream. Especially the retractable roof part. Why is that necessary? 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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If Lacob buys the team, he's not gonna keep them in Sacramento or move them to Vegas; he's going to bring them back to Oakland and get right back to negotiating with Oakland for Howard Terminal. His intent from the beginning of his interest in the A's has been keeping them in the Bay Area, so if he buys the team it's under the pretense of having them in the Bay Area alongside the Warriors.

 

That's what will happen if/when Vegas fails to materialize, most likely; I don't see Fisher being competent enough to not :censored: this up considering his track record.

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4 hours ago, bosrs1 said:

 

Probably because it’s this or they disband the A’s for 4 seasons. They’d rather a crap situation to no jobs for a team’s worth of players. 

 

I would think this is the case.  They may also want renovations to Sutter Health Park enough to satisfy their demands.  They were not going to sign off to the Blue Jays playing in Buffalo until Sahlen Field underwent renovations (otherwise, they probably would have recommended that the Blue Jays play at their Spring training facility in Dunedin, Florida for all of 2020 and 2021).

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11 hours ago, bosrs1 said:

 

Probably because it’s this or they disband the A’s for 4 seasons. They’d rather a crap situation to no jobs for a team’s worth of players. 

 

Are there any players on the A's that would legitimately start for other teams?  I have no idea as I haven't heard anything about them outside of this thread.

 

If the answer is no, then they could shelf them for 4 years and temporarily expand rosters to make up the difference (and once they do that, there's no going back, so long-run they'd gain jobs).  

 

The real damage is to the minor leaguers who wouldn't have a team to be called up to.  I'm not sure there's a way to work around that problem.

 

 

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17 hours ago, zubazpirate said:

 

It's sad, but it is offset by the fact that the entire range of major league and college sports are just a short drive away.

 

As a NHL fan I find it annoying that the Sharks play in San Jose instead of the "real" Bay Area. If only they could move to the Oakland Arena. Sigh. That would give Oakland a major league presence once again.

 

Or the Chase Center

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1 minute ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

Or the Chase Center

 

I'm not that familiar with the Chase Center... was it actually built with hockey in mind, or is it a basketball-first venue like Barclays Center where hockey would require massive compromises?

 

I guess the same questions could be asked about the post renovation Oakland Arena, for that matter.

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