The_Admiral Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Waffles said: And SportsNet has this interesting speculation: "As the owners of the Blue Jays, we expect a peace offering to the Blue Jays." They're right, though, the Expos should be an NL team. Given the telecom duopoly that Canada is under, it only makes sense to have one league per national network (TSN would surely run the Expos coast-to-coast-to-coast). And yes, the Marlins should be the ones to switch. 52 minutes ago, Red Comet said: If Texas can handle two teams in the same league, then Canada can do the same. Would actually be nice to see a regular north of the border rivalry. Both Texas teams in the same league sucks too! 4 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 21 hours ago, Ridleylash said: consensus generally is that Montréal is still a viable baseball market. No it's not. 5 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 If the Rays do move from Tampa Bay to Montreal, I hope that they retain Wade Boggs and Don Zimmer's retired numbers and the Habs to negotiate a trade for Youppi! Quote I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Unless Jeff Vinik buys the team, they are as good as gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Tampa Bay Rays consider state help for proposed Ybor City stadium site https://www.wfla.com/sports/rays/tampa-bay-rays-consider-state-help-for-proposed-ybor-city-stadium-site/ So it is Ybor or Montreal... Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, TrueYankee26 said: Tampa Bay Rays consider state help for proposed Ybor City stadium site https://www.wfla.com/sports/rays/tampa-bay-rays-consider-state-help-for-proposed-ybor-city-stadium-site/ So it is Ybor or Montreal... They are playing both to try to get a stadium in either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, TrueYankee26 said: Tampa Bay Rays consider state help for proposed Ybor City stadium site https://www.wfla.com/sports/rays/tampa-bay-rays-consider-state-help-for-proposed-ybor-city-stadium-site/ So it is Ybor or Montreal... I watched the video, and the fan interviewed at the end did seem to confirm the inconvenient location issue that some here have been mentioning. While I don't know if there's any evidence it would succeed in Ybor City, I'm certainly more willing to accept that it hasn't been given the fair chance I maybe thought it had been. One thing I don't understand, is how the split-city plan calls for two small stadiums. That doesn't make sense, unless they're conceding that very few people will come even if it's centrally located. Playing half the games in one city doesn't mean that the stadium only has to support half the people. I don't really understand the logic - if it's all financially based, wouldn't having more people in there increase revenue? And if they don't think more people would come, why are they even considering this, rather than looking elsewhere (maybe there is no elsewhere?) 8 Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Tampa Bay Rays: "We are still going with the Dual cities/dual stadiums plan with full support of MLB" Rob Manfred: "We support the Rays plan of playing in two cities and two stadiums" MLBPA: "Yeah, we don't think so. " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, BBTV said: I watched the video, and the fan interviewed at the end did seem to confirm the inconvenient location issue that some here have been mentioning. While I don't know if there's any evidence it would succeed in Ybor City, I'm certainly more willing to accept that it hasn't been given the fair chance I maybe thought it had been. One thing I don't understand, is how the split-city plan calls for two small stadiums. That doesn't make sense, unless they're conceding that very few people will come even if it's centrally located. Playing half the games in one city doesn't mean that the stadium only has to support half the people. I don't really understand the logic - if it's all financially based, wouldn't having more people in there increase revenue? And if they don't think more people would come, why are they even considering this, rather than looking elsewhere (maybe there is no elsewhere?) As soon as one gets approved the other is deep sixed and the stadium magically gets larger because they're only building one. 1 Quote It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, GDAWG said: MLBPA: "Yeah, we don't think so. " Does the PA have a say in franchise relocations? Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, BBTV said: Does the PA have a say in franchise relocations? I wouldn't think so, but they may have a say in forcing players to split time between two cities. 2 Quote the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, QCS said: I wouldn't think so, but they may have a say in forcing players to split time between two cities. Yeah I guess for the players that move their families to their home city, that could be problematic. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 The obvious answer is that it was a huge mistake to colonize Florida from the jump. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 5:46 PM, GDAWG said: When they are done with trying to move the A's to Oakland, Las Vegas will make phone calls and write emails to Adam Silver about Las Vegas being the 32nd NBA team. Also three prospective ownership groups, one of them being the Golden Knights are trying to get the MLS to come to Las Vegas. Shades of Kansas City in the late 70s/early 80s. As a reminder, that didn't end well for everyone; my money is that even if the As move to Vegas, they are going to be relocating again in a couple of decades at the latest. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, rams80 said: Shades of Kansas City in the late 70s/early 80s. As a reminder, that didn't end well for everyone; my money is that even if the As move to Vegas, they are going to be relocating again in a couple of decades at the latest. Need I remind you all that a goddamn indoor soccer team outdrew the Kings by a factor of 2 in the early 80’s? Kansas City has the college basketball hall of fame now. Failing at selling basketball here is like failing at selling football in Texas. Mahomes wants an NBA team here and unlike Vegas, we actually have an economy that isn’t based on one industry so maybe Round 2 will work out. Edited October 11, 2021 by Red Comet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, Red Comet said: Need I remind you all that a goddamn indoor soccer team outdrew the Kings by a factor of 2 in the early 80’s? Kansas City has the college basketball hall of fame now. Failing at selling basketball here is like failing at selling football in Texas. Mahomes wants an NBA team here and unlike Vegas, we actually have an economy that isn’t based on one industry so maybe Round 2 will work out. Kansas City won’t get a basketball team the same reason Louisville never will. Pros won’t want to play in either city, and fans aren’t going to support an unsuccessful pro team when they have a college alternative that’s one of the best in the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, dont care said: Kansas City won’t get a basketball team the same reason Louisville never will. Pros won’t want to play in either city, and fans aren’t going to support an unsuccessful pro team when they have a college alternative that’s one of the best in the nation. As opposed to the exciting metropolitan areas of Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City, Indianapolis, Milwaukee and San Antonio? Edited October 12, 2021 by Red Comet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Red Comet said: As opposed to the exciting metropolitan areas of Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City, Indianapolis and Milwaukee? Do any of those have college basketball powerhouses? Didn’t think so. You don’t see the NFL trying to start a team in Tuscaloosa either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Red Comet said: Need I remind you all that a goddamn indoor soccer team outdrew the Kings by a factor of 2 in the early 80’s? Kansas City has the college basketball hall of fame now. Failing at selling basketball here is like failing at selling football in Texas. Mahomes wants an NBA team here and unlike Vegas, we actually have an economy that isn’t based on one industry so maybe Round 2 will work out. We'll have to see how things shake out post-pandemic, but I was under the impression that the arena didn't want either basketball or hockey because they felt they would sponge up valuable dates that could go to lucrative concerts/events. 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Actually the reason Kansas City won't get an NBA team is because the arena makes more money running the concerts and other events through there that they did (at least pre-pandemic) then they could with an NBA team in the building and their 41 dates. At least that's been AEG's reasoning in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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