HOOVER Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said: I love that we all seem to have different hills to die on. I'll never not chuckle at this one. Haha, this is definitely one of the things I'm peculiar about, to say the least. I love that the NFL doesn't allow it, in a way, as it keeps things uniform and traditional, but at the same time, it has the potential to take some new helmet designs from a B to an A+ real quick. I almost want them to allow it for redesigns only for teams that have Black as a color; I don't want the Steelers or Raiders to start using Black helmet bumpers, even though it's a team color, because it would ruin their classic signature helmets with the White bumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joekono Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 11 hours ago, Volt said: Agree. The XFL 2.0 version of the Renegades helmet was far superior to the 2023 version. Dwayne Johnson should be slapped for letting this Renegades helmet on the field. Still, this wouldn't look nearly as good in the NFL with the ban on Black helmet hardware, and it also would destroy the Panthers' best look, which is this: Panthers got it right the first time. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 20 hours ago, FiddySicks said: I dunno about that one. The A’s have moved twice and are possibly about to make a third move (probably into some hyper modern dome/retractable roof stadium). I certainly wouldn’t want them to ditch their brand for something new. I think that’s the thing about classic brands. If done right and with enough recognition, those brands should be able to transcend their location. Now, I wouldn’t argue that the Cardinals set is more iconic than, say, the Raiders, because that would be tremendously silly. But the truth of the matter is their brand is nearly a half century older than the Raiders (you could argue it’s closer to 80 years of you want to include pre NFL days, which I’m hesitant to), and I really do think there’s some heft to that that the Cardinals have never figure out how to utilize properly. And it’s kind of perfect for a place like Phoenix/Maricopa County, because that area lacks a lot of that classic culture just due to being a more recent city in terms of population growth (and that’s not to knock the Phoenix or AZ culture, because it’s definitely rich in its own right. It’s just more overlooked outside of the area). It’s definitely an area, mainly due to having so many transplants, that’s more receptive to assimilating parts of another area’s culture. You could even find a way to play up the old Chicago connection due to their being so many people who live there who are originally from the Chicagoland area. It might be a bit of a reach, but I think with enough tact, that could be done effectively. “Did you leave Chicago because it’s too damn cold? Are you sick of the Bears? Well, so did the Cardinals! Come join Chicago’s other team!” Or something like that, anyway. The thing is that the A's did a color change in 1963 from Red, White And Blue to Kelly Green and Gold. So, the A's set radically changed while in KC- about 3 yrs after leaving Philly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastictaxicab Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 20 hours ago, MJWalker45 said: Carolina needs to add an outline to the current logo if they are going to make black the primary helmet. Personally, I hope they don't. Definitely not my best mockup, but an idea of how that would look. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, plastictaxicab said: Definitely not my best mockup, but an idea of how that would look. I'd make it in silver. The black outline will just get lost on the shell 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastictaxicab Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said: I'd make it in silver. The black outline will just get lost on the shell Good call. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 21 hours ago, MJWalker45 said: Carolina needs to add an outline to the current logo if they are going to make black the primary helmet. Personally, I hope they don't. I don't think so. The Panther needs to be hiding in the helmet for it to even work. Adding any outline would screw it up. It should be a transparent decal so that it blends completely otherwise it just looks weird and off like the alternate helmet. How they did it: How they should do it: By the way the fact the logo doesn't have white eyes and teeth on the alternate helmet is one of the dumbest things ever. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Old School Fool said: I don't think so. The Panther needs to be hiding in the helmet for it to even work. Adding any outline would screw it up. It should be a transparent decal so that it blends completely otherwise it just looks weird and off like the alternate helmet. How they did it: How they should do it: By the way the fact the logo doesn't have white eyes and teeth on the alternate helmet is one of the dumbest things ever. The point of a logo is to stand out. Yes panthers track their prey and blend in, but this is football. It's why I hate Louisville's helmets so much. You can't even see where the cardinal is at times, and you know it's on the helmet. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 hours ago, bobt said: The thing is that the A's did a color change in 1963 from Red, White And Blue to Kelly Green and Gold. So, the A's set radically changed while in KC- about 3 yrs after leaving Philly. That’s definitely true. But even with that, they still kept the same basic script style, the A, and the elephant. I’m more talking about the Cardinals doing a full rebrand away from the bird. Although, now that I think about it, they probably could’ve rebranded as something like the Phoenix Firebirds, which would’ve given them more of a local flare AND let them keep the Cardinal bird. I dunno, I’m biased. The only AZ based team I like (other than the Sun Devils) is the Cardinals. I’d like to see the brand stay, but there have been quite a few good points made here about changing it I guess I can be easily swayed! On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagan696 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 nah, Panthers should keep the silver lids. high contrast for the logo. 12 Carolina Dreamin' ΓΔΒ ΓΔΒ ΓΔΒ When a robotic Nixon is on the loose, we have a duty to take action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagan696 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:39 PM, Volt said: PVC patch...is that a first in the NFL for on-field jersey use? i think the 1st were the SB50 "patches", but not 100%. Panthers 25th was like this. 3 Carolina Dreamin' ΓΔΒ ΓΔΒ ΓΔΒ When a robotic Nixon is on the loose, we have a duty to take action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsFan12 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 If Carolina is in fact switching uniforms, they will have NEVER worn a colored jersey with the current uniform set against the Texans, who they host this season. I really hope that game is scheduled in November or December so that Carolina wears black (assuming that is still the default home jersey color). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelroy78 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 For what it’s worth DJ Moore tweeted this right before he got traded to the Bears 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOVER Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 hours ago, nelroy78 said: For what it’s worth DJ Moore tweeted this right before he got traded to the Bears Would excite & sadden me at the same time. I've long wanted someone to use Matte White b/c it can be so sweet with the right mask/decals. It would sadden me because again, it looks best with Black, and therefore Black hardware, which can't be used in the NFL. It would also sadden me because that means no more Silver helmets for the Panthers. I'm telling you, the Panthers just need to keep the same helmet and change the striping out for a solid thick Black stripe with a thin Panther Blue stripe in the middle and it would be perfect. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Volt said: I'm telling you, the Panthers just need to keep the same helmet and change the striping out for a solid thick Black stripe with a thin Panther Blue stripe in the middle and it would be perfect. I think I tried that not long ago... 11 1 2 http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOVER Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said: I think I tried that not long ago... Yep, that would do it for me. If that thin Panther Blue stripe ended in a point, about an inch or so from the bottom of the helmet in back, cool too. Gotta burn the Black pants, though. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Volt said: Yep, that would do it for me. If that thin Panther Blue stripe ended in a point, about an inch or so from the bottom of the helmet in back, cool too. Gotta burn the Black pants, though. If it were up to me personally, gray pants would be the only option, but it seems like for the NFL in 2023 that ship has sailed. 8 http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 More draft hats (though not all) in snapback form: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=2023+nfl+draft+hat&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=2023+nfl+draft&_osacat=0 Looks like they'll be for sale at the major stores this week (this UK store on eBay and another store from Australia have posted some ahead of time) Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowld Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Most of the hats look awful 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blast_Brothers Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Why are some of the logos in front of the text and others behind? Is that just an error in the preview image(s) or is it actually going to be inconsistent? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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