MrOrange Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) San Diego is heavily rumored to be the next MLS expansion club Here is what is known so far, regarding name/colors/branding and more Official MLS Expansion Annoucement / Statement Stadium: Snapdragon Stadium (SDSU San Diego State University + NWSL San Diego Wave FC) USL's San Diego Loyal is not involved - club statement start playing 2025 Name/Colors/Branding (updated May 19th, 2023) (according to SanDiegoMLS CEO Tom Penn) Name: San Diego FC or FC San Diego "should we put the Football first or San Diego" "we are gonna listen to everybody on that" Logo/Colors "Crest and Colors to be unveiled in sometime Summer/Early Fall 2023" Source: https://www.cbs8.com/video/sports/san-diego-football-club-or-football-club-of-san-diego-team-ceo-shares-new-mls-team-name-options/509-b3f46549-4d7e-40e5-93f4-3fce67f24cf0 thanks @BrySmalls Some (re)sources: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/soccer/story/2023-05-06/major-league-soccer-mls-san-diego-expansion-franchise-snapdragon-stadium-sycuan-mansour-group https://www.90min.com/posts/mls-to-announce-new-franchise-in-coming-weeks https://www.espn.com/soccer/mls/story/4933435/mls-expansion-san-diego-has-momentum-to-become-club-no-30 https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/13fe1sf/fc_san_diego_interesting_research/ https://www.sdloyal.com/news/2023/05/10/statement-from-sd-loyal-chairman-and-owner-andrew-vassiliadis/ https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1770595/MLS-franchise-San-Diego-Conservatives-Mohamed-Mansour-Newcastle https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/major-league-soccer-awards-expansion-team-to-san-diego-x9222 https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-san-diego-aims-to-build-something-special-before-2025-launch https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/right-to-dream-finds-a-natural-spot-with-mls-expansion-to-san-diego https://theathletic.com/4531733/2023/05/18/mls-san-diego-expansion-explained/ Edited May 19, 2023 by MrOrange formatting, added official confirmation, links and updates to the name/logo/crest/colors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastBias Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I'm fine with the name FC San Diego as long as they keep the Loyal color scheme 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrange Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 Thrilled San Diego is getting an MLS team not so thrilled with the majority owner/investor (for reasons I don't want to discuss on here) they couldn't come to an agreement of collaboration, partnership, takover or whatever with San Diego Loyal (USL) Name/Colors/Branding-wise Kinda hoping the final name isn't Football Club San Diego and it's just a part of due dilligence or it will be at least "Futbol" Club to give it more of a local twist and to differentiate a bit within MLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, WestCoastBias said: I'm fine with the name FC San Diego as long as they keep the Loyal color scheme This is a going to be a separate club from Loyal. The Loyal will remain in the USL Championship Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastBias Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Dilbert said: This is a going to be a separate club from Loyal. The Loyal will remain in the USL Championship Yeah as of right now, :censored: can change though 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrange Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 speculation in some places online and on the ground is: colors to include black, red, gold/yellow inspired by: San Diego flag SD (State University) Aztecs Egyptian flag (primary owner) Kumeyaay tribal flag (secondary, local owner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrange Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 about as official as it can get https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-commissioner-don-garber-set-to-make-major-announcement-from-san-diego still after Sacramento Repuplic's unfortunate stumble due to the owner bailing out after the expansion team was already annouced such a league statement is no longer as reasuring as it once was to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinM6 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, MrOrange said: speculation in some places online and on the ground is: colors to include black, red, gold/yellow inspired by: San Diego flag SD (State University) Aztecs Egyptian flag (primary owner) Kumeyaay tribal flag (secondary, local owner) Hopefully they use these colors. The MLS could use some teal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampyrRabbit Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, GriffinM6 said: Hopefully they use these colors. The MLS could use some teal. Charlotte chose Carolina Blue and Black instead of going with Hornets colours, Seattle chose Rave Green and Galaxy are going to stick with white, navy and gold. San Diego could, and I say should, be the team that carries the teal torch in MLS. Go all in on the colour. And hopefully they will come up with a much more inspiring name than FC San Diego. There has been a glut of Citys, Uniteds and FCs in MLS, would be a nice change if they went with something else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, VampyrRabbit said: Charlotte chose Carolina Blue and Black instead of going with Hornets colours, Why would their owner not pick the same colors as the NFL team, that he also owns, and that aforementioned MLS team shares a stadium with? Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampyrRabbit Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, McCall said: Why would their owner not pick the same colors as the NFL team, that he also owns, and that aforementioned MLS team shares a stadium with? True, but Teal and Purple is a nice colour scheme and one that would have been unique in MLS, and there were already two black, white and blue teams in MLS (San Jose and Montreal). I like the current CLTFC colours, but would have loved to see the team be called Charlotte Fortune and wear teal and purple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykotyk Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, VampyrRabbit said: And hopefully they will come up with a much more inspiring name than FC San Diego. Charger FC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 6:28 PM, Dilbert said: This is a going to be a separate club from Loyal. The Loyal will remain in the USL Championship As it should be. I kinda think the days of USL ownership groups being able to hop up to MLS are over. There’s just too much money involved and even the best of these USL ownership groups simply don’t have the funds. The expansion fee is like a half a billion dollars at this point. Most of these clubs that had the potential to move up did so with the cost being less than 20% of that. From first hand experience, it’s time to let the big boys do their thing, and let the USL clubs keep things realistic. Even very recently, there used to be a decently “clear path” to the top, but those days are over and the last bit of that died with COVID. 1 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmy Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 10:43 PM, WestCoastBias said: Yeah as of right now, can change though Case in point: Austin Bold FC thought they could co-exist with MLS' Austin FC; however, that arrangement only lasted one season, with Bold FC on hiatus ever since, hoping to get a new stadium built in Fort Worth. So I could see SD Loyal make a move to build a new stadium somewhere in North County (Oceanside, Escondido, Carlsbad, etc.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenaciousG Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 MLS is expanding and finding more owners for its single entity business structure?? You don’t say… 2 1 Quote My teamsNCAA: Washington StateMLB: Seattle MarinersNFL: Seattle SeahawksNBA: Portland TrailblazersEPL: Liverpool FCMLS: Seattle Sounders FCNHL: Pittsburgh Penguins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampyrRabbit Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Burmy said: Case in point: Austin Bold FC thought they could co-exist with MLS' Austin FC; however, that arrangement only lasted one season, with Bold FC on hiatus ever since, hoping to get a new stadium built in Fort Worth. So I could see SD Loyal make a move to build a new stadium somewhere in North County (Oceanside, Escondido, Carlsbad, etc.) If they want to stay in the USL Championship, they will probably have to leave the city of San Diego. The team isn't setting the world on fire in terms of attendance, drawing got harder when the Wave came to town, and that task is going to only get more difficult with the arrival of MLS. You also have Xolos of Liga MX in the same metro area vying for Soccer fans. Sooner or later, Loyal will have to make a choice between staying in the city of San Diego or staying in the USL Championship. They can't have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinM6 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 At this point, we might as well bump the league up to 40 teams and have pro-rel between the top 2 tiers. A single top-flight league with this many teams at this rate just doesn't make sense in the long run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 9 hours ago, VampyrRabbit said: You also have Xolos of Liga MX in the same metro area vying for Soccer fans. This is something I'd never considered, having both MLS and Liga MX teams in the same metro. It's only a 30-minute drive between Caliente Stadium and Snapdragon, according to Google Maps. That's really interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampyrRabbit Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, gosioux76 said: This is something I'd never considered, having both MLS and Liga MX teams in the same metro. It's only a 30-minute drive between Caliente Stadium and Snapdragon, according to Google Maps. That's really interesting. It's one of the reasons why I never thought MLS would grant a franchise to San Diego, with the Xolos. The team drew around 25 thousand per game pre covid and had quite a large following in SD. That, along with two teams already in Southern California and the Xolos being well established, is why I never thought that MLS would come to the city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykotyk Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, GriffinM6 said: At this point, we might as well bump the league up to 40 teams and have pro-rel between the top 2 tiers. A single top-flight league with this many teams at this rate just doesn't make sense in the long run. No one is spending $500 million to get a spot in the league and then demoted to the second tier. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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