2011 NFL Offseason Thread

[Billy B]

They didn't choke they lost choking is what the Cowboys did vs the Seahawks a few years back.

Not really, the Seahawks were favored in that game and were at home. You can't call dominating a game, and losing on the final play a choke. That was an awful choice of game by you, because if you would've said vs. the Giants in 07 then I would've admitted they choked.

Isn't being in position to win then blowing the game on a routine play pretty much the definition of choking?

[rams80]

They didn't choke they lost choking is what the Cowboys did vs the Seahawks a few years back.

Not really, the Seahawks were favored in that game and were at home. You can't call dominating a game, and losing on the final play a choke. That was an awful choice of game by you, because if you would've said vs. the Giants in 07 then I would've admitted they choked.

Isn't being in position to win then blowing the game on a routine play pretty much the definition of choking?

Why yes, as a matter of fact it is.

[FiddySicks]

They're gonna make the playoffs, and they'll probably win a few playoff games. But this team will never win a title.

Is that a guarantee?

[cameroncrazie07]

They didn't choke they lost choking is what the Cowboys did vs the Seahawks a few years back.

Not really, the Seahawks were favored in that game and were at home. You can't call dominating a game, and losing on the final play a choke. That was an awful choice of game by you, because if you would've said vs. the Giants in 07 then I would've admitted they choked.

Isn't being in position to win then blowing the game on a routine play pretty much the definition of choking?

Yeah but he picked an awful example. You can't call it choking if you're not favored in the game. When the Cards lost to the Steelers in the Super Bowl in 08 I wouldn't say they choked.

And Bucfan56- No that's not a guarantee, because I don't need to guarantee anything to get my point across and get attention.

Bottom Line: You all love Rex because he's funny, but you don't have to hear him all day long. Living in New York 30 minutes from Rutherford I hear this ALL DAY. If he wins, I'll be the first one to give him credit. But for now don't talk, you haven't won anything.

[cameroncrazie07]

And as I say that, Jim Rome just said the exact same thing on T.V. He said you can't talk after you just got whipped in the game that would've got you to the Super Bowl.

Looks like I win.

[rams80]

And as I say that, Jim Rome just said the exact same thing on T.V. He said you can't talk after you just got whipped in the game that would've got you to the Super Bowl.

Looks like I win.

Since Jim Rome is to sports talk radio what Glenn Beck and (ummm... fill in the appropriate Liberal demagogue here) are to political radio, no you don't.

And we have to put up with you a lot longer than you have to put up with Rex Ryan in a day.

[Kevin W.]

There's no comparison to Glenn Beck in terms of radio because no one listens to liberal talk radio.

But that's not relevant to this thread, so I digress.

[FiddySicks]

They didn't choke they lost choking is what the Cowboys did vs the Seahawks a few years back.

Not really, the Seahawks were favored in that game and were at home. You can't call dominating a game, and losing on the final play a choke. That was an awful choice of game by you, because if you would've said vs. the Giants in 07 then I would've admitted they choked.

Isn't being in position to win then blowing the game on a routine play pretty much the definition of choking?

Yeah but he picked an awful example. You can't call it choking if you're not favored in the game. When the Cards lost to the Steelers in the Super Bowl in 08 I wouldn't say they choked.

And Bucfan56- No that's not a guarantee, because I don't need to guarantee anything to get my point across and get attention.

Bottom Line: You all love Rex because he's funny, but you don't have to hear him all day long. Living in New York 30 minutes from Rutherford I hear this ALL DAY. If he wins, I'll be the first one to give him credit. But for now don't talk, you haven't won anything.

So you're telling me that the Cowboys didn't choke vs the Seahawks because they were the road team? You do realize that the last AFC Championship was played in Pittsburgh, right? And the Cowboys dominated the WHOLE game (your words) and then blew it because Tony Romo couldn't hold a routine snap on an easy chip shot, and that's somehow NOT choking? The Jets got down early, not good for sure, but they stormed back to at least keep it close, on the road, in Pittsburgh, vs one of the best defenses in the NFL, with a second year quarterback. Really man, where do you come up with this ?

[Drakonius26]

Well, to be fair, both the Cowboys and Jets have had their fair share of choke-jobs just like any NFL team has had throughout their history. I would agree that Rex Ryan is somewhat entertaining, his mouth is going to get him in trouble one day, as if he chokes/loses another Conference Championship Game, he'll enter into Andy Reid territory as a poor man's-Marv Levy who couldn't win the big one. Not to mention, his act is much like Buddy's act in Philadelphia years ago when he too had a phenomenal defense, average offense, talked a big game (though mostly it was the attitude of his players, more than himself) and couldn't deliver in the clutch. His act wore thin and finally he was gone.

[dfwabel]

^^^ I did not want to hit "Add Reply" just to keep the thoughts of the small minded flowing. Young CCSLC members: You can state a miriad of specific NFL games, but the ability for a team to consistently win a one-score (8 pts. or less) game IS NOT A SKILL!! The skill lies in being good enough so that you are not in a game where one score can beat you.

League Parody + General Randomness = Your typical NFL season

Back to the off-season, I will have the Combine on DVR the entire weekend. OL tomorrow and QB/RB/WR on Sunday.

While Jerry Jones formally gave a statement today on the Super Bowl seating fiasco, earlier this week, the Chairman of the North Texas Host Committee spoke and he took shots at the NFL.

From the story (parts edited):

"I don’t want this to come off as vindictive, because I don’t feel that,” Lively says. “I am sad. That’s the best word to describe my feelings. My team feels defeated when they should be feeling the pride of pulling off remarkable things. The region came together like never before.”

Lively said he started to feel control slip away when the bad weather hit. On Tuesday morning before the Super Bowl, he headed downtown to WFAA-Channel 8 for a 6 a.m. news segment. “It’s sleeting like there’s no tomorrow,” he says. The front door of the station was frozen solid, so he had to be let in through the back.

“Then the ice began to melt Wednesday night. Thursday’s looking much better. And then we get three to seven inches of snow. I’m thinking, ‘Gosh, are the locusts next? What have we done?’ I’m feeling like Job.”

But football commissioner Roger Goodell was reassuring. “He says to me at a reception: ‘Bill, I’ve got your back on the weather.’ Very comforting.

“Then I get the Saturday night telephone calls and e-mails.”

It began with a disturbing call from Arlington Mayor Robert Cluck around 7 p.m. Cluck had just learned about problems with the temporary seating.

“I get another call at about 11 from the NFL,” Lively says. “Things are going badly. Then an e-mail comes in a little after midnight. Things are still going badly. One o’clock, another e-mail. Things are a little more encouraging. They’ve reduced the number of seats that have to be eliminated. Then another e-mail at 2:30. The workers have walked off the job, so there’s going to X number of seats that cannot be salvaged.”

Lively felt blindsided. As part of the Super Bowl bid, the host committee agreed to pay to modify the stadium so that it had at least 93,221 seats. But that was the extent of the committee’s obligation — and all that Lively knows for certain.

It’s his understanding that the stadium was responsible for planning the additional seats, hiring the company, setting the timeline and monitoring the build-out with the NFL’s input.

“We were informed that things were progressing,” Lively says. “Seats were not in yet but would be in time. We believed that. Why wouldn’t we? There'd already been basketball tournaments, the NBA All-Star Game. Why would we think it wouldn’t happen for the biggest game in the history of the stadium?”

...then there was something that Lively found absolutely ludicrous. The week before the Super Bowl, the NFL sent its staff to Honolulu for the Pro Bowl.

“I can’t imagine the logic behind that,” he says. “That game is so insignificant by comparison to the championship game. They used to have the Pro Bowl after the Super Bowl, so that might have made sense back then. But to pull those guys out of North Texas to go to Hawaii the week before the game cost precious planning time and is simply incomprehensible.”

[Drakonius26]

^^^ I did not want to hit "Add Reply" just to keep the thoughts of the small minded flowing. Young CCSLC members: You can state a miriad of specific NFL games, but the ability for a team to consistently win a one-score (8 pts. or less) game IS NOT A SKILL!! The skill lies in being good enough so that you are not in a game where one score can beat you.

I sincerely hope that wasn't a shot directed at me in particular.

[dfwabel]

^^^ I did not want to hit "Add Reply" just to keep the thoughts of the small minded flowing. Young CCSLC members: You can state a miriad of specific NFL games, but the ability for a team to consistently win a one-score (8 pts. or less) game IS NOT A SKILL!! The skill lies in being good enough so that you are not in a game where one score can beat you.

I sincerely hope that wasn't a shot directed at me in particular.

Since you replied so quickly, then the idiom, "struck a chord" hit you personally.

FYI, I hope that you you many of us can hit reply to the same things at the same time, but take longer to post.

You are not that annoying, however, you are still a bigger chucker of posts than Scotty Thurman was of shots!

[RyanMcD29]

...I think the past 2 pages makes me want to warrant a Rex Ryan avatar-esque statement. Considering I'm waiting till the lockout begins/ends for that, I will not. Sorry

[Lights Out]

you are still a bigger chucker of posts than Scotty Thurman was of shots!

Says someone with almost 5,000 posts on here, and not one of them making any sense.

[cameroncrazie07]

They didn't choke they lost choking is what the Cowboys did vs the Seahawks a few years back.

Not really, the Seahawks were favored in that game and were at home. You can't call dominating a game, and losing on the final play a choke. That was an awful choice of game by you, because if you would've said vs. the Giants in 07 then I would've admitted they choked.

Isn't being in position to win then blowing the game on a routine play pretty much the definition of choking?

Yeah but he picked an awful example. You can't call it choking if you're not favored in the game. When the Cards lost to the Steelers in the Super Bowl in 08 I wouldn't say they choked.

And Bucfan56- No that's not a guarantee, because I don't need to guarantee anything to get my point across and get attention.

Bottom Line: You all love Rex because he's funny, but you don't have to hear him all day long. Living in New York 30 minutes from Rutherford I hear this ALL DAY. If he wins, I'll be the first one to give him credit. But for now don't talk, you haven't won anything.

So you're telling me that the Cowboys didn't choke vs the Seahawks because they were the road team? You do realize that the last AFC Championship was played in Pittsburgh, right? And the Cowboys dominated the WHOLE game (your words) and then blew it because Tony Romo couldn't hold a routine snap on an easy chip shot, and that's somehow NOT choking? The Jets got down early, not good for sure, but they stormed back to at least keep it close, on the road, in Pittsburgh, vs one of the best defenses in the NFL, with a second year quarterback. Really man, where do you come up with this ?

The Cowboys didn't talk that whole season about how it was their right given from God to win the Super Bowl. And the Cowboys were the UNDERDOG in their game, they blew it at the end, but they weren't favored or picked to win anything. And alos Romo was a ROOKIE qb, so your argument with Sanchez makes no sense. Rex Ryan and all Jets fans: Win A Super Bowl then talk, for now stop making usless gaurantees.

[Drakonius26]

^^^ I did not want to hit "Add Reply" just to keep the thoughts of the small minded flowing. Young CCSLC members: You can state a miriad of specific NFL games, but the ability for a team to consistently win a one-score (8 pts. or less) game IS NOT A SKILL!! The skill lies in being good enough so that you are not in a game where one score can beat you.

I sincerely hope that wasn't a shot directed at me in particular.

Since you replied so quickly, then the idiom, "struck a chord" hit you personally.

FYI, I hope that you you many of us can hit reply to the same things at the same time, but take longer to post.

You are not that annoying, however, you are still a bigger chucker of posts than Scotty Thurman was of shots!

I'm not really offended by your comment at all. I just remember how you lost your at hearing me speak of the NBA going to Vancouver over Seattle as a possible idea, and them using perhaps the Supersonics colors for a Dragon-related identity.

you are still a bigger chucker of posts than Scotty Thurman was of shots!

Says someone with almost 5,000 posts on here, and not one of them making any sense.

I think I've laughed about three times since joining these forums, but this would be one of those times. Very nice.

[dfwabel]

Why are you still writing to about the Cowboys' performance in a season which was not the 2010 one?

[rams80]

They didn't choke they lost choking is what the Cowboys did vs the Seahawks a few years back.

Not really, the Seahawks were favored in that game and were at home. You can't call dominating a game, and losing on the final play a choke. That was an awful choice of game by you, because if you would've said vs. the Giants in 07 then I would've admitted they choked.

Isn't being in position to win then blowing the game on a routine play pretty much the definition of choking?

Yeah but he picked an awful example. You can't call it choking if you're not favored in the game. When the Cards lost to the Steelers in the Super Bowl in 08 I wouldn't say they choked.

And Bucfan56- No that's not a guarantee, because I don't need to guarantee anything to get my point across and get attention.

Bottom Line: You all love Rex because he's funny, but you don't have to hear him all day long. Living in New York 30 minutes from Rutherford I hear this ALL DAY. If he wins, I'll be the first one to give him credit. But for now don't talk, you haven't won anything.

So you're telling me that the Cowboys didn't choke vs the Seahawks because they were the road team? You do realize that the last AFC Championship was played in Pittsburgh, right? And the Cowboys dominated the WHOLE game (your words) and then blew it because Tony Romo couldn't hold a routine snap on an easy chip shot, and that's somehow NOT choking? The Jets got down early, not good for sure, but they stormed back to at least keep it close, on the road, in Pittsburgh, vs one of the best defenses in the NFL, with a second year quarterback. Really man, where do you come up with this ?

The Cowboys didn't talk that whole season about how it was their right given from God to win the Super Bowl. And the Cowboys were the UNDERDOG in their game, they blew it at the end, but they weren't favored or picked to win anything. And alos Romo was a ROOKIE qb, so your argument with Sanchez makes no sense. Rex Ryan and all Jets fans: Win A Super Bowl then talk, for now stop making usless gaurantees.

Forget the underdog bit for five seconds. You were in a position to win with but a bleeping chip shot field goal and Romo botched something that goes off without a hitch literally hundreds of times in the course of an NFL season. That was a choke, regardless of the pre-game situation.

[tBBP]

I think the intelligence quotient of this thread has dropped by about three hundred points over the past three or so pages.

What exactly are y'all up in here quabbling about, now?

[RyanMcD29]

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Mothaf***in' Rex Ryan came up, made another Super Bowl prediction, then everyone just went f***in' nuts or somethin'