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FiddySicks

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At least Brandon Belt gets his call up. It's bad that it had to happen because of Posey going down, but it will be fun to see Belt play.

I knew as soon as the play occurred that Posey was probably going to be done for a long time. :censored: This team just can't stay healthy.

And of course the kid who ran his ass over was from Reno, NV and grew up as a big Giants fan :(

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The MLB really needs to consider banning home plate collisions. In the last 2 years, 2 catchers have been subject to serious injury. Carlos Santana last year, and Buster Posey this year.

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The MLB really needs to consider banning home plate collisions. In the last 2 years, 2 catchers have been subject to serious injury. Carlos Santana last year, and Buster Posey this year.

That's nonsense. The game has been played the same way in that regard for at least 110 years, as far as I know. Injuries can happen sometimes, and that is the nature of it. You can't really get around it.

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I've never understood why runners are allowed to steamroll the catcher when trying to score, but can't (or just choose not to) run over the 2nd or 3rd baseman when trying to avoid being tagged out. Same thing, right?

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I've never understood why runners are allowed to steamroll the catcher when trying to score, but can't (or just choose not to) run over the 2nd or 3rd baseman when trying to avoid being tagged out. Same thing, right?

Isn't that EXACTLY what breaking up a double play is?

No. The two are completely different.

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I've never understood why runners are allowed to steamroll the catcher when trying to score, but can't (or just choose not to) run over the 2nd or 3rd baseman when trying to avoid being tagged out. Same thing, right?

Isn't that EXACTLY what breaking up a double play is?

No. The two are completely different.

Right. Mainly because in a home plate collision, there may not even be an attempt to slide; the runner just barrels into the catcher.

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I've never understood why runners are allowed to steamroll the catcher when trying to score, but can't (or just choose not to) run over the 2nd or 3rd baseman when trying to avoid being tagged out. Same thing, right?

See Mike Scioscia. Your choice as a runner was often between trying to slide into him and tear up your knee or run over him. You can't slide around him because he's sitting on the damn plate.

Sometimes catcher collisions are just unavoidable. Its just the way it is.

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FiddySicks

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As a Giants fan I wanna be pissed off at Cousins to the point where I wanna go down to Reno and burn down North Valleys High School (joking), but it wasn't his bad. It's just a crappy part of the game that's pretty much unpreventable. Cousins was apologetic from the second he popped up off the ground, and even called Posey twice to apologize. I feel that he may have had some intent to barrel over Posey, but that's baseball. Cousins is a guy trying to do all he can to prove to his team that he deserves to be in the bigs. That type of play is more of an instinct rather than being dirty. Yeah it sucks big time that Posey is out, but if the results of the MRI come back today and there isn't any ligament damage he could still possibly be back by september. That's wishful thinking though.

But here's another thing, Bengie Molina is still available. If anyone knows that staff as well or better than Posey, it's Bengie. He'll need a few weeks in the minors to get in playing shape, but the wait would be worth it IMO.

EDIT: Now that I think about it some more, the Giants best break is that they play in a division that is, IMO, not very good. The Dodgers are sinking like a rock, the Padres are showing that last year was a complete fluke, the D Backs aren't there yet, and even Colorado is struggling. It's not like they have the Phillies, Marlins, and Braves breathing down their neck.

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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Remember, in '09 the Giants won 88 games without him, so it's not like were doomed all of a sudden. They still have the best pitching in the division.

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The MLB really needs to consider banning home plate collisions. In the last 2 years, 2 catchers have been subject to serious injury. Carlos Santana last year, and Buster Posey this year.

That's nonsense. The game has been played the same way in that regard for at least 110 years, as far as I know. Injuries can happen sometimes, and that is the nature of it. You can't really get around it.

"That's the way it's always been" is rarely a good argument for keeping a "tradition" alive. It would be better to explain exactly why it's a good part of the game, rather than "that's the way it's always been."

I don't see how a non-contact sport is all of a sudden allowed to become football at home plate. These catchers are often times not even facing the guys that plow them over, as they're either looking for the ball or spinning to make a tag. There is no reason to plow a catcher other than to blast the ball out of his hand, which really isn't part of the game (otherwise wouldn't A-Rod's slap have been allowed? If anything, that kind of thing is preferred because nobody gets hurt.)

Can we please stop trying to the pussification of sports?

Can you stop arguing about the pussification of sports until you get off your couch, strap on a helmet and actually take a few hits? You do realize that these are actual people that some people would like to protect from unnecessary injuries, right? Nobody is saying that you can't tackle in football or slide hard in baseball or body check in hockey, but unnecessary and dirty plays are... well, unnecessary and dirty. You'd know that if you played sports.

I've never understood why runners are allowed to steamroll the catcher when trying to score, but can't (or just choose not to) run over the 2nd or 3rd baseman when trying to avoid being tagged out. Same thing, right?

Isn't that EXACTLY what breaking up a double play is?

No. The two are completely different.

Right. Mainly because in a home plate collision, there may not even be an attempt to slide; the runner just barrels into the catcher.

Yes, the "take out slide" is borderline, but still totally different. They need to do a better job of interpreting the rules on those, as some guys are sliding no where near the actual base, or putting their legs up in the air to spike (or at least threaten) the fielder. There's nothing wrong with playing hard, but that's absurd. There's nothing "girly" about just playing the game straight, just like there's nothing "manly" about barreling in to a defensless catcher.

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I've never understood why runners are allowed to steamroll the catcher when trying to score, but can't (or just choose not to) run over the 2nd or 3rd baseman when trying to avoid being tagged out. Same thing, right?

Isn't that EXACTLY what breaking up a double play is?

No. The two are completely different.

Right. Mainly because in a home plate collision, there may not even be an attempt to slide; the runner just barrels into the catcher.

Yes, the "take out slide" is borderline, but still totally different. They need to do a better job of interpreting the rules on those, as some guys are sliding no where near the actual base, or putting their legs up in the air to spike (or at least threaten) the fielder. There's nothing wrong with playing hard, but that's absurd. There's nothing "girly" about just playing the game straight, just like there's nothing "manly" about barreling in to a defensless catcher.

If the "take-out" slide is done within the basepath, then I don't have an issue. I would add that unlike running into home, running into second and third requires more control on the runner's part because you can't just simply touch the base to be considered safe, you have to touch the base and stay on the base where as with home plate and first base, you can just touch the base and run through at full-speed.

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I've never understood why runners are allowed to steamroll the catcher when trying to score, but can't (or just choose not to) run over the 2nd or 3rd baseman when trying to avoid being tagged out. Same thing, right?

Isn't that EXACTLY what breaking up a double play is?

No. The two are completely different.

Right. Mainly because in a home plate collision, there may not even be an attempt to slide; the runner just barrels into the catcher.

The rule should be stated "slide feet first". If you collide sliding properly, no big deal. Anything else and you get fined/suspended.

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