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Spring Training is only a couple weeks away. Arizona and Colorado are going to open a new Spring Training facility this year. Plus baseball is back, so may as well open up a Seasonal thread.

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Spring Training is only a couple weeks away. Arizona and Colorado are going to open a new Spring Training facility. Plus the Indians coming to Goodyear this year will have a even split of 15 teams for both the Cactus and Grapefruit Leagues. Plus baseball is back, so may as well open up a Seasonal thread.

Uhh the Indians have been in Goodyear since 2009 Gary...

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Spring Training is only a couple weeks away. Arizona and Colorado are going to open a new Spring Training facility. Plus the Indians coming to Goodyear this year will have a even split of 15 teams for both the Cactus and Grapefruit Leagues. Plus baseball is back, so may as well open up a Seasonal thread.

Uhh the Indians have been in Goodyear since 2009 Gary...

Took it out right before you finished. My brain is fried.

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Nationals will be rocking this year. Everybody laughed when I cheered for them... but now that they are good.... I WAS ALWAYS A FAN.

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Nationals will be rocking this year. Everybody laughed when I cheered for them... but now that they are good.... I WAS ALWAYS A FAN.

... *checks calendar* ... OKAAAAAAY.....

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Nationals will be rocking this year. Everybody laughed when I cheered for them... but now that they are good.... I WAS ALWAYS A FAN.

You're joking right?

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Nationals will be rocking this year. Everybody laughed when I cheered for them... but now that they are good.... I WAS ALWAYS A FAN.

You're joking right?

I think they'll be okay this year. I think they have another 2 years before they can compete for the NL East. This is still the Phillies division

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Nationals will be rocking this year. Everybody laughed when I cheered for them... but now that they are good.... I WAS ALWAYS A FAN.

You're joking right?

I think they'll be okay this year. I think they have another 2 years before they can compete for the NL East. This is still the Phillies division

They're still marketing to Phillies fans, and the Phillies (assuming they're partnering with them on this) are offering packages to the games down there.

I guess they don't think that they'll be improved enough to improve their gate.

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Nationals will be rocking this year. Everybody laughed when I cheered for them... but now that they are good.... I WAS ALWAYS A FAN.

So you started following the Nats last season? :upside:

Oh and here's my post from the 2011 MLB Predictions thread:

I am optimistic. However, when comparing the projected starting rotation of Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels, and John Doe for the Phillies to the projected starting rotation of Strasburg(out until 2012), Hernandez, Zimmermann (if/when healthy), Lannan, Marquis, and Gorzelanny for the Nationals, it may be a long season for Nats fans, especially when the Phillies have "home games" against the Nats in DC.

That being said, I see a marginal on the field improvement for the Nats this season.

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I think the goal for the Nats should be at least 73 wins. That's only a 4 game improvement on last season. Hopefully they can surpass that benchmark by a few games. And then next year, 2012, shoot for .500. Once you hit .500 you can start vying for a playoff spot. (Yes, I know that it does get progressively harder to get the next marginal win.) But steady improvement, and Washington should field a competitive team in a 2-3 years.

Go Nats Go!

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Sounds like both the Nats and O's have made some improvements since the beginning of last season. Hopefully the Beltway Series will heat up a little bit this season.

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As an avid Angels hater, this puts such a smile on my face. From Jayson Stark.

Most Unimproved Teams (AL)

1. Angels

2. Yankees

3. Mariners

For eight years (2002-09), the Angels dominated the AL West by such a ridiculous margin, there was only one team within 100 wins of them. And that was Oakland, which was 46 wins back. But all of a sudden, things ain?t going so hot in Orange County. After his team staggered to a sub-.500 finish for the first time in seven years, owner Arte Moreno plunged into the offseason vowing to do and spend what it took to get the mother ship back on course. So how?d that work out? Hoo boy. One of our poll participants used the word ?disaster? to describe the Angels? train wreck of a winter. And that was one of the gentler descriptions. They took such a hard line on the two free agents who fit their needs most ? Carl Crawford and Adrian Beltre ? that they lost both of them. Then they reacted, in the words of one AL exec, with a ?total panic move,? by trading for Vernon Wells without even getting the Blue Jays to eat a major chunk of his money. When you consider that the Angels got almost twice as many most-unimproved votes (10) as two teams that did just about zilch this winter ? Cleveland and Seattle ? it tells you exactly how many people in this sport have spent the past few weeks asking: ?What the heck were they thinking??

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As an avid Angels hater, this puts such a smile on my face. From Jayson Stark.

Most Unimproved Teams (AL)

1. Angels

2. Yankees

3. Mariners

For eight years (2002-09), the Angels dominated the AL West by such a ridiculous margin, there was only one team within 100 wins of them. And that was Oakland, which was 46 wins back. But all of a sudden, things ain?t going so hot in Orange County. After his team staggered to a sub-.500 finish for the first time in seven years, owner Arte Moreno plunged into the offseason vowing to do and spend what it took to get the mother ship back on course. So how?d that work out? Hoo boy. One of our poll participants used the word ?disaster? to describe the Angels? train wreck of a winter. And that was one of the gentler descriptions. They took such a hard line on the two free agents who fit their needs most ? Carl Crawford and Adrian Beltre ? that they lost both of them. Then they reacted, in the words of one AL exec, with a ?total panic move,? by trading for Vernon Wells without even getting the Blue Jays to eat a major chunk of his money. When you consider that the Angels got almost twice as many most-unimproved votes (10) as two teams that did just about zilch this winter ? Cleveland and Seattle ? it tells you exactly how many people in this sport have spent the past few weeks asking: ?What the heck were they thinking??

Quite the change in pace, no doubt. I will say this though, I feel that Arte Moreno has done a TON for the success of the Angels on the business side of things. He turned that team around from being one of the most irrelevant teams in sports to easily one of the most popular (IMO it's not terribly difficult to do that in a Market the size of LA, especially considering they had just won a title, but it still takes smarts, nonetheless). He has made the Angels a very successful business product. BUT, IMO he is terribly overrated when it comes to putting s successful team on the field. Some of the bone headed deals he has made since taking over just boggles the mind.

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As an avid Angels hater, this puts such a smile on my face. From Jayson Stark.

Most Unimproved Teams (AL)

1. Angels

2. Yankees

3. Mariners

For eight years (2002-09), the Angels dominated the AL West by such a ridiculous margin, there was only one team within 100 wins of them. And that was Oakland, which was 46 wins back. But all of a sudden, things ain?t going so hot in Orange County. After his team staggered to a sub-.500 finish for the first time in seven years, owner Arte Moreno plunged into the offseason vowing to do and spend what it took to get the mother ship back on course. So how?d that work out? Hoo boy. One of our poll participants used the word ?disaster? to describe the Angels? train wreck of a winter. And that was one of the gentler descriptions. They took such a hard line on the two free agents who fit their needs most ? Carl Crawford and Adrian Beltre ? that they lost both of them. Then they reacted, in the words of one AL exec, with a ?total panic move,? by trading for Vernon Wells without even getting the Blue Jays to eat a major chunk of his money. When you consider that the Angels got almost twice as many most-unimproved votes (10) as two teams that did just about zilch this winter ? Cleveland and Seattle ? it tells you exactly how many people in this sport have spent the past few weeks asking: ?What the heck were they thinking??

Quite the change in pace, no doubt. I will say this though, I feel that Arte Moreno has done a TON for the success of the Angels on the business side of things. He turned that team around from being one of the most irrelevant teams in sports to easily one of the most popular (IMO it's not terribly difficult to do that in a Market the size of LA, especially considering they had just won a title, but it still takes smarts, nonetheless). He has made the Angels a very successful business product. BUT, IMO he is terribly overrated when it comes to putting s successful team on the field. Some of the bone headed deals he has made since taking over just boggles the mind.

As an Angels fan, besides the signing of Vlad and Torii (and the fluke Cy Young by Bartolo Colon), I completely and totally agree

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The subject/verb disagreement in the subtitle is giving me spasms.

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Meanwhile in Metsville, Fred and Jeff Coupon are wondering if they will soon be joining their ol buddy Bernie.

Madoff Had Wide Role in Mets? Finances

This team needs new owners now, Mark Cuban if you read this board please buy the Mets.

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I think the goal for the Nats should be at least 73 wins. That's only a 4 game improvement on last season. Hopefully they can surpass that benchmark by a few games. And then next year, 2012, shoot for .500. Once you hit .500 you can start vying for a playoff spot. (Yes, I know that it does get progressively harder to get the next marginal win.) But steady improvement, and Washington should field a competitive team in a 2-3 years.

Go Nats Go!

I really think the Nats can get to .500 this season, which would be fantastic. The pitching rotation's a little subject, but you can't underestimate what impact Drew Storen could have on the staff if he can pitch like a true closer this year. If Jordan Zimmermann can get healthy and pitch to his potential and if John Lannan can pitch like a real pitcher this year, they won't be terrible. Also, there's still a shot Strasburg is back by August or September so who knows with the Nats. 2012 seems to be the year they could start making noise, and if not then, definitely 2013.

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Cardinal fans: Get the ceremonial knives out, because Albert Pujols ain't going to be in St. Louis after this season.

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Cardinal fans: Get the ceremonial knives out, because Albert Pujols ain't going to be in St. Louis after this season.

There's also a team north of the border with one of the richest owners in pro sports and an $86 albatross off the books.

Hey, I can dream.

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