2011NCAA Football Thread

[tj4eck]

So someone I don't know was blowing Kellen Moore and his career winning percentage being the best in NCAA history do I did some homework because I have no life.

Thru the UNLV game (Nov. 5th, 2011) Kellen Moore's opponent's combined record in games they won is 259-242 (51.7 Win %) and 22-3 (88.0 Win %) combined record of their opponents they lost to.

2008 - Record of Teams they beat - 67-72

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 10-2

Division 2 Opponents - Idaho St. (1-11)

2009 - Record of Teams they beat - 84-77

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 0-0

Division 2 Opponents - UC Davis (6-5)

2010 - Record of Teams they beat - 73-68

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 12-1

Division 2 Opponents - None

2011 - Record of Teams they beat - 35-25

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 0-0

Division 2 Opponents - None

With that being said this is how he did against ranked opponents:

- 2008 -

#17 Oregon (won by 5) - Oregon was 10-3 that year

#11 TCU (lost by 1) - TCU was 11-2 that year

- 2009 -

#16 Oregon (won by 11) - Oregon was 10-3 that year

#4 TCU (won by 7) - TCU was 12-1 that year

- 2010 -

#10 Virginia Tech (won by 3) - Virginia Tech was 11-3 that year

#24 Oregon St. (won by 13) - Oregon St. was 5-7 that year

#19 Nevada (lost by 3) - Nevada was 13-1 that year

#19 Utah (won by 23) - Utah was 10-3 that year

- 2011 -

#19 Georgia (won by 14) - Georgia is 7-2 this year

Record versus ranked (7-2)

Combined records of ranked opponents (89-25)

^

[Breakwood]

So someone I don't know was blowing Kellen Moore and his career winning percentage being the best in NCAA history do I did some homework because I have no life.

Thru the UNLV game (Nov. 5th, 2011) Kellen Moore's opponent's combined record in games they won is 259-242 (51.7 Win %) and 22-3 (88.0 Win %) combined record of their opponents they lost to.

2008 - Record of Teams they beat - 67-72

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 10-2

Division 2 Opponents - Idaho St. (1-11)

2009 - Record of Teams they beat - 84-77

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 0-0

Division 2 Opponents - UC Davis (6-5)

2010 - Record of Teams they beat - 73-68

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 12-1

Division 2 Opponents - None

2011 - Record of Teams they beat - 35-25

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 0-0

Division 2 Opponents - None

With that being said this is how he did against ranked opponents:

- 2008 -

#17 Oregon (won by 5) - Oregon was 10-3 that year

#11 TCU (lost by 1) - TCU was 11-2 that year

- 2009 -

#16 Oregon (won by 11) - Oregon was 10-3 that year

#4 TCU (won by 7) - TCU was 12-1 that year

- 2010 -

#10 Virginia Tech (won by 3) - Virginia Tech was 11-3 that year

#24 Oregon St. (won by 13) - Oregon St. was 5-7 that year

#19 Nevada (lost by 3) - Nevada was 13-1 that year

#19 Utah (won by 23) - Utah was 10-3 that year

- 2011 -

#19 Georgia (won by 14) - Georgia is 7-2 this year

Record versus ranked (7-2)

Combined records of ranked opponents (89-25)

^

What's your point?

[crashcarson15]

Kellen Moore caps off an excellent career with win #50. Well done.

I know it will never happen but I would love to see Boise State in the Pac-12 to see what they could do.

They'd be a .500 team in the Pac-12. Probably comparable to a UCLA, Oregon State, or Utah. The issue I see is that they wouldn't be competitive in any other sports. I never really hear of Boise making any noise in basketball, soccer, baseball, or even softball.

So, they'd be comparable to teams that finished BEHIND Arizona State, a team that Boise just slaughtered...? Go away, troll.

[tj4eck]

So someone I don't know was blowing Kellen Moore and his career winning percentage being the best in NCAA history do I did some homework because I have no life.

Thru the UNLV game (Nov. 5th, 2011) Kellen Moore's opponent's combined record in games they won is 259-242 (51.7 Win %) and 22-3 (88.0 Win %) combined record of their opponents they lost to.

2008 - Record of Teams they beat - 67-72

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 10-2

Division 2 Opponents - Idaho St. (1-11)

2009 - Record of Teams they beat - 84-77

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 0-0

Division 2 Opponents - UC Davis (6-5)

2010 - Record of Teams they beat - 73-68

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 12-1

Division 2 Opponents - None

2011 - Record of Teams they beat - 35-25

------ Record of Teams they lost to - 0-0

Division 2 Opponents - None

With that being said this is how he did against ranked opponents:

- 2008 -

#17 Oregon (won by 5) - Oregon was 10-3 that year

#11 TCU (lost by 1) - TCU was 11-2 that year

- 2009 -

#16 Oregon (won by 11) - Oregon was 10-3 that year

#4 TCU (won by 7) - TCU was 12-1 that year

- 2010 -

#10 Virginia Tech (won by 3) - Virginia Tech was 11-3 that year

#24 Oregon St. (won by 13) - Oregon St. was 5-7 that year

#19 Nevada (lost by 3) - Nevada was 13-1 that year

#19 Utah (won by 23) - Utah was 10-3 that year

- 2011 -

#19 Georgia (won by 14) - Georgia is 7-2 this year

Record versus ranked (7-2)

Combined records of ranked opponents (89-25)

^

What's your point?

My point is Kellen Moore's opponents have been horrible.

[FiddySicks]

Sorry, but I'd say that it's not too far from the truth. Looking at the upgrade in schedules that Boise would have, who's to say they'd dominate the PAC 12? It's one thing to play New Mexico State, Idaho, and San Jose State yearly (And trust me, I've seen plenty of WAC sports events over the years. Those school's sports programs are absolutely atrocious). But it's another thing to face programs like UCLA, Washington, and USC year in and year out. I'm not even saying they wouldn't beat them most of the time, and it's no knock on Boise. They're the best non BCS school around. But to get insulted to the point where you call someone a troll for having that opinion is a bit much IMO. Despite the problems those schools have had recently, they're still some of the best funded sports programs in the country. IMO, Boise couldn't compete year in and year out financially with those institutions. Rams80's description of them as a "Jumped up community college" isn't that much of an insult. All the WAC schools are. And I say this as someone who went to and is a big supporter of the University of Nevada, Reno. I'd at least argue that if Boise had a PAC 12 schedule over the last few seasons, that Kellen Moore wouldn't have 50+ wins.

[crashcarson15]

I'm calling him a troll because he stalks members around the boards and just tries to start flame wars.

Anyways, I still find it hard to believe that one can seriously believe Boise would perform like teams who finished behind ASU, a team Boise just boatraced.

[IceCap]

No one's saying BSU would dominate the Pac-12 Bucfan, but they wouldn't be a perpetually hopeless .500 team either.

I'm calling him a troll because he stalks members around the boards and just tries to start flame wars.

Exactly. He contributes nothing to the community.

[Lights Out]

Well, no... NOBODY dominates the PAC for long, not even USC. Boise would find a way to succeed, though.

[OnWis97]

Well, no... NOBODY dominates the PAC for long, not even USC. Boise would find a way to succeed, though.

Agree. They'd probably contend most years, and win the conference every so often.

[Cola]

Anyways, I still find it hard to believe that one can seriously believe Boise would perform like teams who finished behind ASU, a team Boise just boatraced.

There is some truth in the point that beating a team in a conference doesn't put you on par or better than the rest of that conference. The week in and out of playing teams of that caliber is all too often ignored and underestimated.

Beating ASU is a great accomplishment for them...but going through the schedule that ASU does in contrast to Boise's adds a strength factor that can't really be measured. We just know it's important in the big scheme of things.

[rams80]

Anyways, I still find it hard to believe that one can seriously believe Boise would perform like teams who finished behind ASU, a team Boise just boatraced.

There is some truth in the point that beating a team in a conference doesn't put you on par or better than the rest of that conference. The week in and out of playing teams of that caliber is all too often ignored and underestimated.

Beating ASU is a great accomplishment for them...but going through the schedule that ASU does in contrast to Boise's adds a strength factor that can't really be measured. We just know it's important in the big scheme of things.

Playing Vandy, Kentucky, and Ole Miss does present quite the gauntlet, right?

[thespleenenator]

Anyways, I still find it hard to believe that one can seriously believe Boise would perform like teams who finished behind ASU, a team Boise just boatraced.

There is some truth in the point that beating a team in a conference doesn't put you on par or better than the rest of that conference. The week in and out of playing teams of that caliber is all too often ignored and underestimated.

Beating ASU is a great accomplishment for them...but going through the schedule that ASU does in contrast to Boise's adds a strength factor that can't really be measured. We just know it's important in the big scheme of things.

Playing Vandy, Kentucky, and Ole Miss does present quite the gauntlet, right?

Well, we were talking about the Pac-12, not the SEC, but I think the point remains valid. Utah was depleted this year, and they competed in the Pac-12. Can you imagine if they actually had a passing game? They would've won the South. I think Boise would've gone 10-2 in the Pac-12 (with some variances depending on the schedule).

[Cola]

Anyways, I still find it hard to believe that one can seriously believe Boise would perform like teams who finished behind ASU, a team Boise just boatraced.

There is some truth in the point that beating a team in a conference doesn't put you on par or better than the rest of that conference. The week in and out of playing teams of that caliber is all too often ignored and underestimated.

Beating ASU is a great accomplishment for them...but going through the schedule that ASU does in contrast to Boise's adds a strength factor that can't really be measured. We just know it's important in the big scheme of things.

Playing Vandy, Kentucky, and Ole Miss does present quite the gauntlet, right?

Damn dude...that inferiority complex is really getting the best of you. I didn't mention anything about the SEC.

[rams80]

Anyways, I still find it hard to believe that one can seriously believe Boise would perform like teams who finished behind ASU, a team Boise just boatraced.

There is some truth in the point that beating a team in a conference doesn't put you on par or better than the rest of that conference. The week in and out of playing teams of that caliber is all too often ignored and underestimated.

Beating ASU is a great accomplishment for them...but going through the schedule that ASU does in contrast to Boise's adds a strength factor that can't really be measured. We just know it's important in the big scheme of things.

Playing Vandy, Kentucky, and Ole Miss does present quite the gauntlet, right?

Damn dude...that inferiority complex is really getting the best of you. I didn't mention anything about the SEC.

The "hard AQ Conference gauntlet" canard is pretty much only trotted out by SEC fans. The rest of the AQ school fans know enough to acknowledge that everybody has their fair share of derelict teams to play inside of a conference setting.

[infrared41]

Damn dude...that inferiority complex is really getting the best of you. I didn't mention anything about the SEC.

The "hard AQ Conference gauntlet" canard is pretty much only trotted out by SEC fans. The rest of the AQ school fans know enough to acknowledge that everybody has their fair share of derelict teams to play inside of a conference setting.

If the SEC has the "top to bottom" talent that conference superfanboys people think it has, wouldn't every team go 7-5? I just don't understand how the same few teams always dominate a conference in which every team is so good that they would probably win any other AQ conference. It would seem that, if nothing else, the law of big numbers would allow for someone other than Alabama, LSU, or Auburn to win the SEC every so often. Then again, I'm not great with numbers so I may be wrong.

[Lights Out]

Yeah, where are all those Vandy conference titles? (Granted, if James Franklin stays, they could very well be winning the SEC soon.)

Could it be that the SEC, like every other conference, has a handful of great teams, a few mediocre teams, and several bottom feeders?

[infrared41]

Yeah, where are all those Vandy conference titles?

Could it be that the SEC, like every other conference, has a handful of great teams, a few mediocre teams, and several bottom feeders?

Absolutely not. Put Kentucky in the Big Ten and LSU is playing the Wildcats instead of Alabama, In fact, not only would Kentucky be undefeated, I'd doubt they would have allowed more than seven points a game in their conference schedule. Lucky for me that my Buckeyes never have to play anyone as scary good as Kentucky is. Thank goodness the SEC keeps the Kentuckys and Mississippi States from being unleashed on the rest of college football.

[tBBP]

Hey, I'll do all y'all one better: I'm a fan of a team that used to murder its in-conference foes year in and year out.

Except that conference has "Atlantic Coast" stuck to the front of its name. (And that was pre-expansion.)

[infrared41]

I get that LSU is undefeated and Alabama is the consensus pick as the second best team in the nation. Still, I can't help but think that Baylor really got screwed in this deal. They go 99-3 and that's only good for an Alamo Bowl bid? If you ask me, any team that goes 99-3 should get a shot at the title. And when did Baylor change their name to the "Banners?"

[thespleenenator]

I get that LSU is undefeated and Alabama is the consensus pick as the second best team in the nation. Still, I can't help but think that Baylor really got screwed in this deal. They go 99-3 and that's only good for an Alamo Bowl bid? If you ask me, any team that goes 99-3 should get a shot at the title. And when did Baylor change their name to the "Banners?"

SI at it's finest.