Nike Pro Combat NFL in 2012

[Lights Out]

I'm too lazy to go through this thread, but as far as I know there are only two teams who are changing/tweaking logos. Not sure what is meant by "overhaul".

I think they mean an overhaul of the uniforms, not necessarily of the logos.

[Showtime029]

I'm too lazy to go through this thread, but as far as I know there are only two teams who are changing/tweaking logos. Not sure what is meant by "overhaul".

"overhaul" = overreaction by people who don't know anything.

HAHA. Zing.

[Showtime029]

I'm too lazy to go through this thread, but as far as I know there are only two teams who are changing/tweaking logos. Not sure what is meant by "overhaul".

I think they mean an overhaul of the uniforms, not necessarily of the logos.

That could be it. Wasn't sure.

[neo_prankster]

For the new uniforms in 2012, I better see some version of these:

[DeFrank]

And if you told that to each team, they would all say that their current looks are improvements over the old ones.

Chargers: We used powder blue!

Giants: NY is better than GIANTS!

Rams: New colors are much cooler!

Dolphins: Better logo and added navy!

Seahawks: Better logo and cooler colors!

[hawk36]

For the new uniforms in 2012, I better see some version of these:

Sorry but as a native San Diegan and lifelong Charger fan those, to me, were the most uninspired uniforms the team has ever had. San Diego is a fun, vibrant, exciting city and these colors are so normal and drab.

Give me the 60s throwback look or the Fouts era looks with yellow pants. Much more visually exciting.

[BlazerBlaze]

The Jag's thread got me thinking, which is never a good thing...

I was wondering if some of our more connected members knew if the NFL is waiving the minimum years of use for a jersey design because of the switch to Nike?

[Brave-Bird 08]

I would not be the least bit surprised, mainly because some teams uniform designs (mainly modern teams, like the Cardinals, Falcons, and Jaguars) won't translate into Nike's cut. Unless Nike is trying to design a new cut that will accommadate all of the previous designs.

[tBBP]

Y'all know what? How about this...I don't see every team using the exact same uniform cut next season, like seemingly everybody's been led to believe around here. Why? Because not every team uses the exact same uniform cut now. Right off the top of my head I can count at least four different cuts/templates currently in use (not including the techfit/shrinkwrap stuff). All that while still being under Rbk's "exclusive" contract. I'm almost positive that one or two if not more third-party companies (Ripon being one of them) actually manufacture different teams' uniforms, into which the appropriate Rbk logo(s) are later stitched. I have no reason to think it'll be any different in 2012 and beyond.

And for all the fanboys out there who swear up and down that Nike is about to exert its influence over the NFL the way they do in the NCAA...this is the N-F-L we"re talking about here--they keep their stuff locked down tight. And unless the Swoosh done parked an entire convoy of Brinks trucks outside the front door of the league's head office, they ain't finna let Nike do a thing more than what they'll allow...in this case, Nike works for the NFL, not the other way around. And the last thing we need to see is a top-level version of what Russell did to the Arena League several years ago.

Now, having got all that out my system...I don't doubt doubt several franchises out there would jump at the opportunity, if they haven't already, for the Swoosh to tinker with their identity (I'd bet my next four paychecks that Seattle is one of them), and some teams could probably benefit from a Nikefied refresh (Arizona, Minnesota, and especially Jacksonville). But I personally don't see the chromedomes, matte helmets, and whatever other trendy elements Nike's come up with (except for the cleats, and maybe the logo-emblazoned gloves) catching wildfire through the NFL the way it has through the NCAA. I nean after all, this is the same league that fines players for wearing the wrong-color chinstrap and outlawed Ricky Williams' rainbow-tinted visor.

(Now its entirely possible that I end up wrong about all this...and if I am, then come summer I'll start researching delicious crow recipes. I just don't think the sweeping change some hope for is likely.)

[DeFrank]

I would not be the least bit surprised, mainly because some teams uniform designs (mainly modern teams, like the Cardinals, Falcons, and Jaguars) won't translate into Nike's cut. Unless Nike is trying to design a new cut that will accommadate all of the previous designs.

Lets not forget the Vikings and possibly Titans. I'd think they'd try to make accommodation.

[Bouj]

Y'all know what? How about this...I don't see every team using the exact same uniform cut next season, like seemingly everybody's been led to believe around here. Why? Because not every team uses the exact same uniform cut now. Right off the top of my head I can count at least four different cuts/templates currently in use (not including the techfit/shrinkwrap stuff). All that while still being under Rbk's "exclusive" contract. I'm almost positive that one or two if not more third-party companies (Ripon being one of them) actually manufacture different teams' uniforms, into which the appropriate Rbk logo(s) are later stitched. I have no reason to think it'll be any different in 2012 and beyond.

And for all the fanboys out there who swear up and down that Nike is about to exert its influence over the NFL the way they do in the NCAA...this is the N-F-L we"re talking about here--they keep their stuff locked down tight. And unless the Swoosh done parked an entire convoy of Brinks trucks outside the front door of the league's head office, they ain't finna let Nike do a thing more than what they'll allow...in this case, Nike works for the NFL, not the other way around. And the last thing we need to see is a top-level version of what Russell did to the Arena League several years ago.

Now, having got all that out my system...I don't doubt doubt several franchises out there would jump at the opportunity, if they haven't already, for the Swoosh to tinker with their identity (I'd bet my next four paychecks that Seattle is one of them), and some teams could probably benefit from a Nikefied refresh (Arizona, Minnesota, and especially Jacksonville). But I personally don't see the chromedomes, matte helmets, and whatever other trendy elements Nike's come up with (except for the cleats, and maybe the logo-emblazoned gloves) catching wildfire through the NFL the way it has through the NCAA. I nean after all, this is the same league that fines players for wearing the wrong-color chinstrap and outlawed Ricky Williams' rainbow-tinted visor.

(Now its entirely possible that I end up wrong about all this...and if I am, then come summer I'll start researching delicious crow recipes. I just don't think the sweeping change some hope for is likely.)

I want the beginning of this post stuck to the top of this thread's every page. Some people are acting like Nike is going to roll in and tell the NFL what's what.

[WideRight]

For the new uniforms in 2012, I better see some version of these:

So what you are saying is that for the ALL-NEW SUPER NIKE SHOWCASE IN 2012

Nike will roll out rehashed uniforms from the mid-1980's.

Somehow I just don't see that happening. I expect most teams to look exactly as they do now, with just a couple of changes, and for those changes to make the new teams look more like Oregon and Maryland than Penn State, Nebraska or the 1986 Chargers, Giants and Rams.

[Lights Out]

Those Rams and Seahawks unis are the only ones I'd like to see return. I don't get the fascination with those Chargers unis. They're so boring, lack the traditional powder blue, and are associated with Ryan Leaf and the organization's two biggest chokejobs (1994 Super Bowl, 2006 playoff meltdown).

[FiddySicks]

Those Rams and Seahawks unis are the only ones I'd like to see return. I don't get the fascination with those Chargers unis. They're so boring, lack the traditional powder blue, and are associated with Ryan Leaf and the organization's two biggest chokejobs (1994 Super Bowl, 2006 playoff meltdown).

Um, choke job? San Francisco was favored by 18 and won by 23. The Chargers were Heavy underdogs and were never even in that game.

[CrazyAnna]

Those Rams and Seahawks unis are the only ones I'd like to see return. I don't get the fascination with those Chargers unis. They're so boring, lack the traditional powder blue, and are associated with Ryan Leaf and the organization's two biggest chokejobs (1994 Super Bowl, 2006 playoff meltdown).

Um, choke job? San Francisco was favored by 18 and won by 23. The Chargers were Heavy underdogs and were never even in that game.

My thoughts as well. The Chargers were predicted to get crushed and they did. If anything, they met expectations in that Super Bowl.

[Lights Out]

Maybe chokejob was the wrong word, but they still shat the bed on the big stage in those uniforms.

[tBBP]

And they've Norv's also been pretty much sh!++ing the pot the past couple seasons in their current duds as well. Oh, and let's not forget one of that organization's all-time greats--you might remember him, wore #55?--staked his legacy in those boring powder-blue-lacking uniforms.

Your point?

[BlazerBlaze]

So I take it that nobody really seams to know much about that rule and situation.

Buc, I think the reason people seems to think there's going to be sweeping changes is that the last time that something like this happened, RBK Edge in the NHL, almost all of the teams had a change. Now mind you alot of those we're minor things, but still changes none the less. Take my Thrasher's for example, we lost the signature arrow hem striping. I think people are forgetting that most of the changes are things like that, minor.

[knnhrvy16]

I don't get the fascination with those Chargers unis. They're so boring

Not trying to be confrontational, but how are those "boring" when it's basically the same design as nearly every other set they've worn? Bolts on the helmet. Bolts on the jersey shoulders. Bolts on the pant stripe. I mean, it wasn't that drastically different from Charger tradition. Bolts all around, and some form of blue paired with gold and white.

And as for fascination for the set, I'm prettt sure it has to do with (as Buc pointed out) a certain Junior Seau (and LaDanian Tomlinson) and a relatively recent Super Bowl participant, not to mention a tastefully modern classic uniform. Personally, I see the 90's-early 00's set and think of a team's only AFC title and two sure Hall of Famers. There's a decent success attached to it. Then from an aesthetic view, it's one of those rare gems of a uniform that perfectly blended modern and traditional elements in design - perhaps the only other in that category being the 80's-early 00's Bengals set (both of which, ironically, were absolutely shat upon in favor of poorly designed "modernizations"). A modern element - a bolt (in Cincy's case, tiger stripes) - tastefully adorned on the helmet and in shoulder inserts, as well as the pant stripe? Beautiful. And the way navy, white, and gold were used in that set was a fantastic balance. I may be a super-fan of the Fouts-era set, but the Seau set was no slouch of a uniform on its own, either.

[Lights Out]

The color scheme was boring and generic. Powder blue is classic, unique, and popular among the fanbase, but it wasn't featured in that uniform set at all, other then their 1994 and mid-2000's AFL throwbacks.

As for great players, the powder blue was worn by Lance Alworth, Ron Mix, Junior Seau, Ladainian Tomlinson, and even into the modern era with Rivers and Gates. The Chargers wore powder blue, not navy, for the only league championship in franchise history.