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I smell a lawsuit...roster space or not, public perception has become that the Rams are homophobic, and boycotts will ensue.

A lawsuit for what?

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I smell a lawsuit...roster space or not, public perception has become that the Rams are homophobic, and boycotts will ensue.

No it hasn't, and no they won't.

I suspect one will pop up, but nothing will come of it. I really can't help but feel like there are so many people following this that don't understand football and how routine cutting a 7th round draft pick is.

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While I'm reasonably confident that the Rams made their decision on merit, I still feel like ESPN kind of poisoned the water by springing that shower story a few days ago. Certainly couldn't have helped the guy, I know that much.

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I do think he was cut on merit, and hopefully, he will get an opportunity elsewhere. At least Sam was given and opportunity and I loved him mocking Maziels money gesture after he sacked him.

I saw, I came, I left.

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Honestly I think him getting cut was best for him. while Im sure it doesn't feel good, he'll get a chance with a team like the Colts that don't have as much depth at his position to actually play and makes a difference instead of being getting stuck on the bench in St Louis.

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Honestly I think him getting cut was best for him. while Im sure it doesn't feel good, he'll get a chance with a team like the Colts that don't have as much depth at his position to actually play and makes a difference instead of being getting stuck on the bench in St Louis.

Hopefully. If not for the Rams he may have gone undrafted. I'm hoping his performance would cause some teams to take a second look, but they didn't back in April.
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While I'm reasonably confident that the Rams made their decision on merit, I still feel like ESPN kind of poisoned the water by springing that shower story a few days ago. Certainly couldn't have helped the guy, I know that much.

He was cut on merit, but its really :censored: ing stupid to base your cuts on merit in this case in a season that went from "in trouble" to "lost cause" the moment Bradford tore his ACL.

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
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If not for the Rams he may have gone undrafted. I'm hoping his performance would cause some teams to take a second look, but they didn't back in April.

And teams will now realize that the whole "distraction" bull :censored: is just that, the silly ravings of an increasingly isolated few.

If not for those fears, Sam may have been drafted a whole lot higher.

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Bringing this conversation over from the NFL thread...

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Ya no. Still here. And what on earth makes you think I should be banned?

A guy makes a remark about our football team which has indeed experienced tragedy at the result of gun violence far too often, and then a very true statement about a seventh round pick. What other seventh round pick needed a press conference to justify being cut?

And what on earth makes you think I should be banned? You're just kinda loud and obnoxious about your opinions. You bring nothing to the table as a poster other than volume and cringe-worthy statements that have your fellow St. Louis fans embarrassed via association.

A guy makes a remark about our football team which has indeed experienced tragedy at the result of gun violence far too often, and then a very true statement about a seventh round pick. What other seventh round pick needed a press conference to justify being cut? It's significant since he may not be in the public eye again, and it's a keystone moment for a league that is quietly rampant with homophobia and hypocrisy. It's not Jackie Robinson, but it means something that requires recognition at the expense of overexposure/analysis. It's a big deal making this thing not a big deal.

See, this was where Tony Dungy wasn't wrong in saying "distraction", especially from the coach's point of view.

I can't ever remember an instance where a team not only had their coach give a press conference about a player getting cut from the team at the end of the preseason, but a 7th-round draft pick got an introductory press conference the day after he was drafted. We're only a couple days removed from ESPN trying to make Michael Sam's showering habits a story (which was a bit of a distraction to the players that were interviewed, Fisher having to take time to issue his disgust with ESPN for the story, Long for his tweet supporting Sam, etc.). The Rams ballclub did an excellent job in making Sam's sexual preference a "who gives a crap?" thing at camp. Being drafted by the team near his school and with a coach that's about as stand-up a man as there is in the NFL, he was put in about as good a situation as he could dream of, and was given as much of a fair-shake as possible.

Early on in this thread, I outlined where Dungy could have been referring to as distraction situations. For the most part (not that I listened to much sports talk or watched much television....had a busy month), I didn't hear anything on Sam during training camp and preseason. (If any of you in the St. Louis area can add some insight on the local news stations and papers and how much Fisher and/or the players and/or other coaches were specifically asked about Sam's progress, let us know.) It kinda came off the rails this past week, both with the showering 'story' and the uncertainty of Sam surviving the final cuts.

I'm sure most of you will agree that the Rams, their fans and coaches didn't care about Sam being gay. He himself wasn't a distraction to them, but the media made it become a little bit of a distraction as camp was coming to a close. Fisher shouldn't have had to explain why a guy got cut when he could have using that time to be doing something more constructive.

I'm pretty sure Dungy wasn't thinking of "distraction" in the sense of Sam getting aroused by slapping a player with a towel or anything like that. Pretty sure he was thinking of "distraction" in terms of being the head coach and having to answer and re-answer the same questions about a singular player throughout camp, and also possibly putting himself in the position of having to explain why he was cut. With these coaches that spend so much time at the office devising game plans and such, doing something that takes time away from that (such as extended interviews) are distractions.

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Fisher shouldn't have had to explain why a guy got cut when he could have using that time to be doing something more constructive.

For example, arranging a creative "accident" that would rid the world of Brian Schottenheimer or beating Jake Long and Greg Robinson senseless with a 2 by 4. When you're playing out the string the head coach's time becomes less valuable.

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
Today, we are all otaku.

"The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert

POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010

The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy)

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I'm pretty sure Dungy wasn't thinking of "distraction" in the sense of Sam getting aroused by slapping a player with a towel or anything like that. Pretty sure he was thinking of "distraction" in terms of being the head coach and having to answer and re-answer the same questions about a singular player throughout camp, and also possibly putting himself in the position of having to explain why he was cut.

Anybody other than Dungy, I would agree with you. But when a man actively (and repeatedly) campaigns against the civil rights of his fellow human beings, he loses the benefit of the doubt on that particular issue.

Given his very vocal opposition to gay rights on more than one occasion, it's absurdly disingenuous to now suggest that his personal views have zero bearing on his comments regarding Sam.

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