2011-2012 NCAA Football Uniform Thread

[Somppi]

I just think it looks too old-timey and anachronistic for such a "modern" program. The new stadium doesn't fit the program's image as trendy outsider at all, IMO. But that's just me. Meanwhile, Boise State got it right - the design reminds me a little bit of Autzen Stadium mixed with Reser Stadium. It's an aesthetic that works with the location and the program's image.

I also don't really like the looks of that yellow brick building from the rendering, but it might look better in real life.

BTW, who's calling the new Amon G. Carter "the Camden Yards of college football"? TCU fans?

Also, the blue turf could plausibly have been called a gimmick in the '80s when it was introduced. Now, though, it's been used for so long that it has become a tradition instead of a gimmick.

Boise's stadium suits the program because it looks like a big carnival.

TCU's suits its program because it is classy. TCU won national titles and Heismans in the 30s. The stadium is the same style (and brick) as Fort Worth and the campus.

Yeah... so did about 45 other schools.

Yeah. There wasn't a corupt system that basically picked teams to play in it's championship game back then....

It doesn't take anything away from the program's history.

I'm not even going to entertain what you just said... haha bless

[29texan]

No, there was a system equally as insipid as the BCS, in which twenty teams would have reasonable claims to a national championship every year.

I know, but I was really refering to an actually championship game which you virtually didn't have back then.

Many will say we still don't have one now, but what can ya do?

[Gothamite]

No, there was a system equally as insipid as the BCS, in which twenty teams would have reasonable claims to a national championship every year.

I know, but I was really refering to an actually championship game which you virtually didn't have back then.

Many will say we still don't have one now, but what can ya do?

Playoff.

[Lights Out]

We don't have a championship game. We have what amounts to a 2-game playoff with other great teams getting no chance at a title. Hopefully Mark Cuban can fix that.

I'm surprised that someone from Auburn of all schools would be defending the BCS. 2004 was not that long ago.

[29texan]

No, there was a system equally as insipid as the BCS, in which twenty teams would have reasonable claims to a national championship every year.

I know, but I was really refering to an actually championship game which you virtually didn't have back then.

Many will say we still don't have one now, but what can ya do?

Playoff.

I wish....

And sorry to veer off into the whole BCS thing, but when an AUBURN fan of all people tries to talk about legitimacy of someone else's championships,knowing that they themselves got screwed once, it bothers me. Of course, when you're team wins it all, what's the point in complaining about it, right?

[oldschoolvikings]

We don't have a championship game. We have what amounts to a 2-game playoff with other great teams getting no chance at a title. Hopefully Mark Cuban can fix that.

I'm surprised that someone from Auburn of all schools would be defending the BCS. 2004 was not that long ago.

Wait...

Mark Cuban is gonna fix it? When?

this is gonna take a while

[Lights Out]

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5924399

[andrewharrington]

I just think it looks too old-timey and anachronistic for such a "modern" program. The new stadium doesn't fit the program's image as trendy outsider at all, IMO. But that's just me. Meanwhile, Boise State got it right - the design reminds me a little bit of Autzen Stadium mixed with Reser Stadium. It's an aesthetic that works with the location and the program's image.

I also don't really like the looks of that yellow brick building from the rendering, but it might look better in real life.

BTW, who's calling the new Amon G. Carter "the Camden Yards of college football"? TCU fans?

Also, the blue turf could plausibly have been called a gimmick in the '80s when it was introduced. Now, though, it's been used for so long that it has become a tradition instead of a gimmick.

Boise's stadium suits the program because it looks like a big carnival.

TCU's suits its program because it is classy. TCU won national titles and Heismans in the 30s. The stadium is the same style (and brick) as Fort Worth and the campus.

Yeah... so did about 45 other schools.

Edit- 29, to be exact.

There are 16 different schools (other than TCU) who recognize National Championships from the period 1930-1939, and there are 3 different schools (again, not including TCU) who had a player win a Heisman trophy during that time period. Thus, the correct statement is, "Yeah... so did about 19 other schools."

[oddball]

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5924399

Mark Cuban isn't going to fix anything. He's a guy who throws stupid ideas out there just to get attention. If he actually wanted to do something, he'd buy the NCAA and fix it then, but he doesn't want to do anything except for get his name out there to make it look like he's doing something. He just wants people to like him.

[Somppi]

I just think it looks too old-timey and anachronistic for such a "modern" program. The new stadium doesn't fit the program's image as trendy outsider at all, IMO. But that's just me. Meanwhile, Boise State got it right - the design reminds me a little bit of Autzen Stadium mixed with Reser Stadium. It's an aesthetic that works with the location and the program's image.

I also don't really like the looks of that yellow brick building from the rendering, but it might look better in real life.

BTW, who's calling the new Amon G. Carter "the Camden Yards of college football"? TCU fans?

Also, the blue turf could plausibly have been called a gimmick in the '80s when it was introduced. Now, though, it's been used for so long that it has become a tradition instead of a gimmick.

Boise's stadium suits the program because it looks like a big carnival.

TCU's suits its program because it is classy. TCU won national titles and Heismans in the 30s. The stadium is the same style (and brick) as Fort Worth and the campus.

Yeah... so did about 45 other schools.

Edit- 29, to be exact.

There are 16 different schools (other than TCU) who recognize National Championships from the period 1930-1939, and there are 3 different schools (again, not including TCU) who had a player win a Heisman trophy during that time period. Thus, the correct statement is, "Yeah... so did about 19 other schools."

Through 1930-39, there was a total of 29 "champions", I just didn't take out the "other schools" when I took that out.

And I'm by no means defending the BCS, I'm just saying it's better than the way it used to be where if a team went undefeated they could basically proclaim themselves the champions. The only good thing about the BCS is that it takes into account the schedule and teams you play, and it is basically an agreement that the top 2 teams are playing. Someone is bound to get screwed every now and then and unfortunately, I found that out first hand in 2004 but it happens.

[BRice16]

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5924399

That's not going to happen. Money is not and has never been the issue. ESPN and Fox floated numbers higher than Cuban's $500 million per year for the rights to a potential 8 or 16 game playoff. And that's just the TV money.

Cuban doesn't understand that, much like his attempts to buy MLB teams, this is not just something you can throw money at and have it your way. College presidents know they are leaving hundreds of millions of dollars on the table, but they elect to do it anyway.

[Lights Out]

That's only because there hasn't been a viable alternative. To attack a goliath like the BCS, it's not enough for the networks to half-heartedly pitch a change to a playoff system. There needs to be a strong, threatening competitor - basically, it needs to be the AFL to the BCS' NFL.

[HedleyLamarr]

We don't have a championship game. We have what amounts to a 2-game playoff with other great teams getting no chance at a title. Hopefully Mark Cuban can fix that.

I'm surprised that someone from Auburn of all schools would be defending the BCS. 2004 was not that long ago.

If the USC-Oklahoma game was a close game, do folks still harp about Auburn getting screwed?

USC and Oklahoma were the two best teams throughout the regular season that year. Look at what those two teams did in comparison to Auburn that year. (And if I recall correctly, Auburn could only beat an average Virginia Tech team 16-13 in the Sugar Bowl, so they didn't exactly prove themselves more worthy of playing for the national championship than Oklahoma.)

Besides, USC and Auburn played the previous season, and USC shutout Auburn...in Auburn. Auburn hadn't improved that much in 2004.

[RyanMcD29]

Oh good god why does every college football topic always end up becoming either a discussion on

1. The BCS and why it sucks/works

2. Boise State

3. Oregon's uniforms (granted in this topic it applies)

We can be talking about a Eastern Michigan-Buffalo new uniform matchup and somehow those three things will come up

..So, any new uniforms being unveiled this week?

[JohnnySeoul]

..So, any new uniforms being unveiled this week?

The Buffalo Bills' uniforms will be announced within the next 9 days. Not the ones on my Wiki-page either; those were just for fun (same applies to the NY Giants too)

[BRice16]

That's only because there hasn't been a viable alternative. To attack a goliath like the BCS, it's not enough for the networks to half-heartedly pitch a change to a playoff system. There needs to be a strong, threatening competitor - basically, it needs to be the AFL to the BCS' NFL.

The BCS is run and controlled by the major conferences. It's not its own corporation. That's what Cuban (and you) don't seem to understand here. The conference commissioners, university presidents and Bowl committees are not going to give up control to an outside entity, no matter the money offered. There's not a place for an AFL, because all of the franchises (schools) are already in the NFL and aren't moving.

For there to be a playoff, one of two things has to happen. Either the BCS morphs itself into a playoff under the control of its current structure or the NCAA takes over control of the football postseason as they do in every other sport. I've worked in Division I athletics for 10 years now, and I can assure you that there's nothing Mark Cuban, ESPN, or anyone else can do to change that power balance.

[Lights Out]

..So, any new uniforms being unveiled this week?

[dfwabel]

That's only because there hasn't been a viable alternative. To attack a goliath like the BCS, it's not enough for the networks to half-heartedly pitch a change to a playoff system. There needs to be a strong, threatening competitor - basically, it needs to be the AFL to the BCS' NFL.

The BCS is run and controlled by the major conferences. It's not its own corporation. That's what Cuban (and you) don't seem to understand here. The conference commissioners, university presidents and Bowl committees are not going to give up control to an outside entity, no matter the money offered. There's not a place for an AFL, because all of the franchises (schools) are already in the NFL and aren't moving.

For there to be a playoff, one of two things has to happen. Either the BCS morphs itself into a playoff under the control of its current structure or the NCAA takes over control of the football postseason as they do in every other sport. I've worked in Division I athletics for 10 years now, and I can assure you that there's nothing Mark Cuban, ESPN, or anyone else can do to change that power balance.

BRice16, I agree with you and I appreciate this conversation, but this does need to go the 2010-11 College Football Thread since Cuban's thought plus previous posts I have had with Lights Out were there or a new thread in Sports In General on its own. I like stadium talk and even this, but this is digression on a large scale. Leave this out and let those who really worry about uniform styles be able to discuss those changes here without such a large discord from original theme.

[BRice16]

BRice16, I agree with you and I appreciate this conversation, but this does need to go the 2010-11 College Football Thread since Cuban's thought plus previous posts I have had with Lights Out were there or a new thread in Sports In General on its own. I like stadium talk and even this, but this is digression on a large scale. Leave this out and let those who really worry about uniform styles be able to discuss those changes here without such a large discord from original theme.

I was just responding to his statement. What site is this "Sports in General" forum on?

[dfwabel]

BRice16, I agree with you and I appreciate this conversation, but this does need to go the 2010-11 College Football Thread since Cuban's thought plus previous posts I have had with Lights Out were there or a new thread in Sports In General on its own. I like stadium talk and even this, but this is digression on a large scale. Leave this out and let those who really worry about uniform styles be able to discuss those changes here without such a large discord from original theme.

I was just responding to his statement. What site is this "Sports in General" forum on?

I meant this previous thread.