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Best of luck to Borland and other who decide to stop playing early, but there was a sentence within the OTL/Fainaru Bros. story.

Borland, who earned a bachelor's degree in history at the University of Wisconsin, said he plans to return to school and possibly pursue a career in sports management.

Huh?

Granted, he really does not know what to do next, and it is still very, very early for him, however to go back to school for a career is sports management is akin to quit drinking/smoking but are willing to work for Beam Brands (alcohol) or Phillip Morris (tobacco).

Rare will be a case in which he will could have a position which will not have it's revenue tied to football. There are the other major leagues plus their minor league, but prep and higher education has its income tied to football in some manner.

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So let me get this straight... Borland clearly lies his ass off during the draft interview process (convincing the Niners to use a draft pick on him in the process), he pockets a cool million, and then suddenly decides a week into free agency that he doesn't feel like playing anymore because of head injuries he got in middle school, and he's being applauded for this? If he really thought that playing in the NFL was too much of a health risk, he should have done the honest thing and entered the workforce instead of the draft. And really, he probably shouldn't have played FBS football either. I get that head injuries are an issue, but it's not fair to the Niners that they wasted a third-round pick on this guy under the impression that he was willing to play for longer than a year and he basically stole money from them.

Swing and a miss.

By your logic it's not fair to the Broncos that they wasted a pick when Kenny McKinley "quit" football when they were under the impression that he was willing to play for longer than a year and he basically stole money from them. Kenny McKinley should've done the honest thing and quit football before entering the draft.

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Even if his plan really was to only play one year and "lie his ass off" to the 49ers, and I seriously doubt that it was, then I still can't blame him. Everybody should be able to make as much as they possibly can. If that was his plan, and again I doubt it was, then that's a brilliant plan. Also, you're sticking up for one of the worst sets of ownership groups in sports.

I quit my first job out of college after 3 months because it was different from my expectations. They were under the impression that I would be there much longer than I was. I guess I stole money from them and lied my ass off.

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I just can't understand why anyone has a problem with his decision. It isn't what he wants out of life. He didn't steal money. He earned it. He worked hard for it. I commend him.

He was good at playing football. Let's not make a statue for the guy.

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I just can't understand why anyone has a problem with his decision. It isn't what he wants out of life. He didn't steal money. He earned it. He worked hard for it. I commend him.

He was good at playing football. Let's not make a statue for the guy.

No statue. Just saying I admire his decision.

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So let me get this straight... Borland clearly lies his ass off during the draft interview process (convincing the Niners to use a draft pick on him in the process), he pockets a cool million, and then suddenly decides a week into free agency that he doesn't feel like playing anymore because of head injuries he got in middle school, and he's being applauded for this? If he really thought that playing in the NFL was too much of a health risk, he should have done the honest thing and entered the workforce instead of the draft. And really, he probably shouldn't have played FBS football either. I get that head injuries are an issue, but it's not fair to the Niners that they wasted a third-round pick on this guy under the impression that he was willing to play for longer than a year and he basically stole money from them.

Swing and a miss.

By your logic it's not fair to the Broncos that they wasted a pick when Kenny McKinley "quit" football when they were under the impression that he was willing to play for longer than a year and he basically stole money from them. Kenny McKinley should've done the honest thing and quit football before entering the draft.

No, your comparison is the actual swing and miss. Committing suicide because you're depressed and up to your eyeballs in debt is so different from what Borland did that I'm amazed anyone could even try to connect the two.

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If you have a job you don't like and doesn't fufill you, you quit. NFL or office work, it doesn't matter. He didn't "steal" anything (that's ridiculous, BTW. Especially with how unstable NFL contracts are), and he's not the first NFL player to retire before his contract was up.

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So let me get this straight... Borland clearly lies his ass off during the draft interview process (convincing the Niners to use a draft pick on him in the process), he pockets a cool million, and then suddenly decides a week into free agency that he doesn't feel like playing anymore because of head injuries he got in middle school, and he's being applauded for this? If he really thought that playing in the NFL was too much of a health risk, he should have done the honest thing and entered the workforce instead of the draft. And really, he probably shouldn't have played FBS football either. I get that head injuries are an issue, but it's not fair to the Niners that they wasted a third-round pick on this guy under the impression that he was willing to play for longer than a year and he basically stole money from them.

Swing and a miss.

By your logic it's not fair to the Broncos that they wasted a pick when Kenny McKinley "quit" football when they were under the impression that he was willing to play for longer than a year and he basically stole money from them. Kenny McKinley should've done the honest thing and quit football before entering the draft.

No, your comparison is the actual swing and miss. Committing suicide because you're depressed and up to your eyeballs in debt is so different from what Borland did that I'm amazed anyone could even try to connect the two.

The Broncos and 49ers both lost a draft pick on a guy they only paid for one year. They both thought they'd have them for longer than one year. They no longer have to pay him after that one year. In strictly contract terms, not all that different, really. It happens to every team. They know every time they draft/sign anyone there's risk involved.

Besides, I only used Kenny McKinley's suicide to highlight the absurdity of your stance and I believe that was obvious. That you're siding with the poor little Yorks and casting Chris Borland as this scheming cheat is so far away from the point it earned an absurd retort. Who the hell sees this story and reads Borland as the bad guy? How do you see this story and see it even as a Borland v. San Francisco 49ers issue? It's clearly Borland v. the very real prospect that playing the sport as this level makes it nearly impossible to escape with your long-term health.

Should he have honored his full contract? Is that what you're arguing? That'll make sense the day NFL teams stop releasing players from contracts before the terms are up as well.

Borland played the system for a free college education, 650K in signing bonus money (pretaxes) and whatever he made last year, and now he gets to leave with his health. Damn right I applaud him.

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One thing I didn't realize was that Borland comes from a wealthy family and was only going to make $580k or so next season. If he was walking away from $5.4 million, this would be a bit more of a bigger deal.

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One thing I didn't realize was that Borland comes from a wealthy family and was only going to make $580k or so next season. If he was walking away from $5.4 million, this would be a bit more of a bigger deal.

If he'd stuck around though, it looks like he was on the path to making 7 figures on his next contract.

I wonder whether "wealthy family" and "graduated" will be negative marks in the War Room from here on out.

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One thing I didn't realize was that Borland comes from a wealthy family and was only going to make $580k or so next season. If he was walking away from $5.4 million, this would be a bit more of a bigger deal.

His dad made a fortune when "Tool Time" started national syndication.

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One thing I didn't realize was that Borland comes from a wealthy family and was only going to make $580k or so next season. If he was walking away from $5.4 million, this would be a bit more of a bigger deal.

His dad made a fortune when "Tool Time" started national syndication.

Amazing.

On the topic, I would have thought it a given to always take the player's side in any NFL dispute.

The owners have so many institutional advantages over the players, the least of which is bogus contracts we all pretend matter. This is such a mild reversal that it seems absurd to have even a modicum of sympathy for the Yorks. Good on Borland and eff the 49ers ownership.

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One thing I didn't realize was that Borland comes from a wealthy family and was only going to make $580k or so next season. If he was walking away from $5.4 million, this would be a bit more of a bigger deal.

His dad made a fortune when "Tool Time" started national syndication.

Amazing.

On the topic, I would have thought it a given to always take the player's side in any NFL dispute.

The owners have so many institutional advantages over the players, the least of which is bogus contracts we all pretend matter. This is such a mild reversal that it seems absurd to have even a modicum of sympathy for the Yorks. Good on Borland and eff the 49ers ownership.

I agree. If he played poorly in his rookie season and the 49ers decided to just cut him after a year, surely nobody would take issue with it because it happens all the damn time.

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Jake Locker also retired at age 26 because he "Didn't have the burning desire needed to play football at the professional level". Should've done the honest thing 4 years ago and entered the workforce instead of lying his ass off to the Titans and convincing them to waste a first round pick on him.

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One thing I didn't realize was that Borland comes from a wealthy family and was only going to make $580k or so next season. If he was walking away from $5.4 million, this would be a bit more of a bigger deal.

If he'd stuck around though, it looks like he was on the path to making 7 figures on his next contract.

I wonder whether "wealthy family" and "graduated" will be negative marks in the War Room from here on out.

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At the risk of offending the brave men and women who serve our country, the future of football doesn't sound too dissimilar to the future of America's Army.

Avoid the upper classes, pick up the strongest from the lower classes, give a perfunctory education and cut em loose when you're done with them.

It helps when both work super hard to cover up sex crimes while at the same time ingraining themselves in the culture through sweet commercials and video game licensing deals.

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and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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Wasn't that from Malcolm Gladwell or some guy from Raw Sports? Or Edge Sports? Someone posted something about comparing the NFL to the military within the last couple days.

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Somebody joked about Borland retiring because the 49ers are going to be terrible, but I wonder if there's some grain of truth to that? If the concussion issue is in the back of your mind, I could see it happening. It's a lot easier to put your body at risk for a Super Bowl contender than staring down 2-3 years playing meaningless games.

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