Cujo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/19/2023 at 6:39 PM, Sykotyk said: Las Vegas Outlaws would've been a great callback to the first XFL Huge swing and miss by Dwayne. The Las Vegas Outlaws might've been the most memorable team from XFL v1. And unlike other original XFL identities, there was nothing edgy or offensive about that nickname, which makes it acceptable for the year 2023. And hell, the logo still goes hard. No doubt the city would've embraced Outlaws more than Vipers this go-around. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Cujo said: Huge swing and miss by Dwayne. The Las Vegas Outlaws might've been the most memorable team from XFL v1. And unlike other original XFL identities, there was nothing edgy or offensive about that nickname, which makes it acceptable for the year 2023. And hell, the logo still goes hard. No doubt the city would've embraced Outlaws more than Vipers this go-around. Why? 1 Quote It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cujo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said: Why? 32 minutes ago, Cujo said: The Las Vegas Outlaws might've been the most memorable team from XFL v1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Cujo said: Ah. Forgive me for not knowing you were Carnac the Magnificent. 1 Quote It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysox Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/19/2023 at 7:08 PM, Cujo said: That new logo tho. Just recolor the original NY identity. Orlando being a side-facing logo but with angled teeth kills me. This is my least favorite brand in the new launch 9 2 Quote @MichaelDanger19 | Dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 11 hours ago, raysox said: Orlando being a side-facing logo but with angled teeth kills me. This is my least favorite brand in the new launch Now I can't unsee how the top "fangs" are basically the same size and and parallel even though one is supposed to be on the other side of the mouth. Further proving my theory that these were merely reproductions done of the originals while adhering to the theoretical "20% change" rule. Why? I have no idea. I'm sure the trademarks to the 2020 versions were included in the sale (see Renegades). None of them, save for Houston, and maybe the Vipers, were improvements. DC and maybe Seattle were lateral, at best, while the rest were downgrades. 5 Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Cujo said: Huge swing and miss by Dwayne. The Las Vegas Outlaws might've been the most memorable team from XFL v1. And unlike other original XFL identities, there was nothing edgy or offensive about that nickname, which makes it acceptable for the year 2023. And hell, the logo still goes hard. No doubt the city would've embraced Outlaws more than Vipers this go-around. I don't know, I think the Rage was super memorable because of the out-there logo (not saying it was the best or anything like that). Maniax logo was also eye-catching, but they didn't use it on the helmet. Outlaws I think is played out for Vegas. They even had an Arena Football League team called the Las Vegas Outlaws. Time to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogoFan Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 6:51 PM, Volt said: Even my wife pointed how badly mismatch the shades are. Look, it happens…colors don’t always match across mediums. But this looks like the league used maybe the former Pantone for the helmet paint, rather than, you know, updating it to match UA’s “Light Blue” or whatever they call it. If they had just left the uniforms alone, it would've been far less noticable as the black would have separated the helmet blue with the jersey blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Wind of Doom Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Could there be some sort of legal reason to necessitate all the changes between the three leagues? Many of the decisions seem odd and change for change sake. I do believe the most shocking decision from XFL 2 was ignoring the Las Vegas market. And now they have an NFL team. Although they were able to catch the same fire in St. Louis. I can only guess the decisions made were in line with Vince's attempt to rebrand as the squeaky clean league and traditional. But it's not like "Outlaws" is much different from "Renegades". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Silent Wind of Doom said: Could there be some sort of legal reason to necessitate all the changes between the three leagues I'd imagine "Las Vegas Outlaws" would be permissible if "Vipers" is. Just a shame. The entire identity was 10/10. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Cunningham Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 While I'm sure there isn't hard data to back up any claims of which identities were most memorable, I think @Cujo makes a great point at least based on anecdotes and memory: The Las Vegas Outlaws identity is likely the most recognizable identity from the first iteration of the XFL if for no other reason than Rod Smart's HE HATE ME jersey. When I think XFL1, that's what I think of: that name and the colors black, red, and gold. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Cujo said: I'd imagine "Las Vegas Outlaws" would be permissible if "Vipers" is. Just a shame. The entire identity was 10/10. Back in the day when Madden was good, specifically '05-'07, I used to replace the whole league with 32 created teams and I always attempted to remake this team on there. That Las Vegas Outlaws team is one of my all-time favorite identities in sports history. 1 1 Quote Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Cujo said: I'd imagine "Las Vegas Outlaws" would be permissible if "Vipers" is. Just a shame. The entire identity was 10/10. I just realized that the nostril(?) of the skull is a spade 7 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Wind of Doom Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 The Outlaw identity was beautiful. Whenever I played around with creating teams, I would use it. Not sure why they went the way they did on that. Looking at the Sea Dragons tonight... I don't hate the homes as much as I thought I would. I don't know if the orange fits the city, but with them going white pants at home, they look better than I expected. I think this color scheme really works and I like how the green pops off of the orange. But navy jerseys probably would have fit better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silent Wind of Doom said: Looking at the Sea Dragons tonight... I don't hate the homes as much as I thought I would. I don't know if the orange fits the city, but with them going white pants at home, they look better than I expected. I think this color scheme really works and I like how the green pops off of the orange. But navy jerseys probably would have fit better. I was just thinking that as I'm sitting here kinda half-watching this game. Orange isn't the first color I think of when I think "Seattle"--then again, I don't think orange at all when I think Seattle. But perhaps that'll play in their favor. St. Louis on the other hand...yyyyeeeaaahh no. Not really working for me. (And lookie here...Bruce Gradkowski of all people is their OC. Not sure whether to chuckle at that or...) Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Silent Wind of Doom said: The Outlaw identity was beautiful. Whenever I played around with creating teams, I would use it. Not sure why they went the way they did on that. Similar. When using Madden franchise mode, I 'd play as the Cardinals, move them to Vegas and rebrand them to the Outlaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Much like Dallas Arlington, they could've put more of an effort into matching Seattle's helmets and jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I think that's due to finish, and not due to material matching. That Seattle helmet is really nice. 9 Quote the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Wind of Doom Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, tBBP said: I was just thinking that as I'm sitting here kinda half-watching this game. Orange isn't the first color I think of when I think "Seattle"--then again, I don't think orange at all when I think Seattle. But perhaps that'll play in their favor. St. Louis on the other hand...yyyyeeeaaahh no. Not really working for me. (And lookie here...Bruce Gradkowski of all people is their OC. Not sure whether to chuckle at that or...) I'm not even so much talking about the association between the color and the city. There are plenty of random pairings there through sports history. I'm more concerned with the colors being associated with other locations that serve as rivals. Like if there's a distaste for Denver. I don't mind St. Louis. I'd normally be against skipping white, but I think grey works with their metallic aesthetic. Just now, Cujo said: Much like Dallas Arlington, they could've put more of an effort into matching Seattle's helmets and jersey Just now, CDCLT said: I think that's due to finish, and not due to material matching. That Seattle helmet is really nice. Yeah, I give them a pass because of the shine. It doesn't look like they just screwed up and got the wrong helmets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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