Gothamite Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Interesting. I don’t think it’s a very practical idea, though. Pro/rel can’t happen until the sport is much stronger in the US - even in England, relegation can drive clubs into bankruptcy. And what’s wrong with a $400M expansion fee, if there are people willing to pay it? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambamOverTime Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Gothamite said: Interesting. I don’t think it’s a very practical idea, though. Pro/rel can’t happen until the sport is much stronger in the US - even in England, relegation can drive clubs into bankruptcy. And what’s wrong with a $400M expansion fee, if there are people willing to pay it? First off, I do agree with the fact of relegation putting clubs into bankruptcy. But, practically all Major sports teams in the US are franchise teams, so I would think there are already business people who have money to support the club. I also do agree with your second point, and I can't find any piece of evidence against that. I'm just trying to rationalize how most soccer clubs in the U.S. have to pay a huge fee just to get to a top stage, when really their team should have good enough players that can already support and keep their team's place at the top. FC Cincy, which I do support, were really good in the USL, but then decided to go to MLS while having to pay the fee. And in their first season, finished worst the the Rapids (which kinda hurts). If there was pro/rel, the FCC could have been promoted to the MLS, then been relegated back down to the USL where they can now find their footing again and train/buy players and really cement their position in the MLS the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 You think expansion teams taking a couple years to find their footing is worse than going up and down and up and down? Or even worse, being relegated and the instability plunging them farther down the ladder? I disagree. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydnimrod Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Interesting. I don’t think it’s a very practical idea, though. Pro/rel can’t happen until the sport is much stronger in the US - even in England, relegation can drive clubs into bankruptcy. And what’s wrong with a $400M expansion fee, if there are people willing to pay it? My problem with the $400 million fee is that Cincinnati paid $150 million. If that $150 fee is still the case, that's $250 million leftover for a new team that could go towards a stadium, instead of getting the taxpayers to pay for it. Mancakes: The Bandhttps://twitter.com/FloydNimrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 That’s not how it works, though. The owners aren’t going to stop asking for public funds just because expansion fees are held artificially low. And on the contrary, anyone who can pay $400M will have a harder time asking for public money because they can obviously pay for their own damn stadium. I’m all for it. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Gothamite said: That’s not how it works, though. The owners aren’t going to stop asking for public funds just because expansion fees are held artificially low. And on the contrary, anyone who can pay $400M will have a harder time asking for public money because they can obviously pay for their own damn stadium. I’m all for it. Charlotte will also play in a football stadium that already meets FIFA standards. That should be enough for the city to tell them no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydnimrod Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Gothamite said: That’s not how it works, though. The owners aren’t going to stop asking for public funds just because expansion fees are held artificially low. And on the contrary, anyone who can pay $400M will have a harder time asking for public money because they can obviously pay for their own damn stadium. I’m all for it. I'm aware of how it works. But I just want to pretend for a few seconds that all rich people aren't dicks. Let me have my dream! I don't think anyone will have an easier/harder time asking for public funds for a stadium regardless of how much they paid to own a team. Mancakes: The Bandhttps://twitter.com/FloydNimrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 58 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said: Charlotte will also play in a football stadium that already meets FIFA standards. That should be enough for the city to tell them no. The football team is trying to get the city to fund upgrades to that stadium, aren’t they? Never underestimate a rich person’s sense of entitlement. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Gothamite said: The football team is trying to get the city to fund upgrades to that stadium, aren’t they? Never underestimate a rich person’s sense of entitlement. Yep, Tepper's goal is to have a domed stadium within 10 years. He can take that plan and shove it up his , though. the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GDAWG Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Inter Miami to name their first head coach on Monday: https://www.espn.com/soccer/major-league-soccer/story/4022373/reports-david-beckhams-inter-miami-to-make-diego-alonso-first-boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, GDAWG said: Inter Miami to name their first head coach on Monday: https://www.espn.com/soccer/major-league-soccer/story/4022373/reports-david-beckhams-inter-miami-to-make-diego-alonso-first-boss They're also picking up noted Sounders hero Roman Torres. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 17 hours ago, DG_Now said: They're also picking up noted Sounders hero Roman Torres. Juan Agudelo too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GDAWG Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, Dilbert said: FC Cincinnatis West End Stadium is starting to go up. That's going to be a good looking stadium when it's completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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