Discrim Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 12:05 AM, rainmaker17 said: Dallas won't retire numbers but 8, 12 and 22 are pretty much just that. The 88 thing is weird to me. It should be right beside the other iconic numbers in "retirement"but has taken on a life of its own. Oddly enough, the only other North American pro team that I've seen treat a number in a similar way the Cowboys treat #88...is, of all teams, the Bucks, who have issued #34 to Terry Cummings, then Ray Allen, and then Giannis. Granted, there were some scrubs in between all of them. A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Football is unique among the five major sports — certain numbers have to be worn by specific positions. In the other four sports, anyone can wear any number from 0 (or 00) to 99, although I've never seen anyone in the NHL with #0/00. Numbers 50-79 are limited to offensive and defensive linemen. Especially on offense, the first thing the referee and umpire look for are 5 players on the offensive line (from tackle to tackle) wearing numbers in that range. It makes it easier to determine eligible pass receivers. And since NFL teams have the largest rosters, retiring any of those numbers could be problematic if there weren't enough available numbers to fill required positions. That's why NFL teams should stick with "Rings of Honor" or something similar. Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I believe the Buccaneers retire numbers for hall of famers only, which at the moment is Selmon 63, Sapp 99, Brooks 55, and Lynch 47. At some point in the distant future, I could see them needing to use the numbers again but probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 21 hours ago, slapshot said: In the other four sports, anyone can wear any number from 0 (or 00) to 99, although I've never seen anyone in the NHL with #0/00. Martin Biron of the Buffalo Sabres was the last NHL player to wear # 00 in 1996. The last player to wear # 0 was Neil Sheehy of the Hartford Whalers in 1988. In 1996 the league banned anyone from wearing # 0 and # 00 because the numbers caused problems with their stat-tracking software.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysama Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 ^ They should reinstate those numbers, considering how (it's likely) the software has improved in the past quarter-century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Thought of something while I was playing Retro Bowl: the Falcons have something of a history of using a metallic color in one spot and then nowhere else, starting with their use of gold stripes on the helmets but nowhere else from 1966-69. After sticking with strictly red and black for several years, in 1978 they introduced silver pants, as well as red jerseys with silver numbers and striping. The white jerseys, meanwhile, had no silver above the waist. They wore this style, tweaking a few things along the way, until 1989. In 1990 they switched to black helmets and jerseys, but kept silver pants around, the style they would wear until 2002. Finally, starting in 2003, the Falcons switched to uniforms that were now strictly black, red and white...except the tradition continued, as silver is used as the outer outline of the overhauled falcon logo...and nowhere else. A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysama Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 AFAIK, the Pittsburgh Steelers, from 1968-96, were the only NFL team to position its TV numbers between the shoulder and sleeve; sort of a compromise placing them between those two aforementioned points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispw12 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 11/8/2021 at 8:23 PM, Discrim said: Oddly enough, the only other North American pro team that I've seen treat a number in a similar way the Cowboys treat #88...is, of all teams, the Bucks, who have issued #34 to Terry Cummings, then Ray Allen, and then Giannis. Granted, there were some scrubs in between all of them. A few other NBA examples are the Sonics with 24 being given to Spencer Haywood, Dennis Johnson, Tom Chambers and the Knicks with Cazzie Russell before Patrick Ewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 This might belong here… Washington has a tendency to alternate the number 26 between Offense and Defense as each new player comes through 2001-03 Ifeanyi Ohalete (DB) 2004-10 Clinton Portis (RB) 2011-13 Josh Wilson (DB) 2014-17 Bashaud Breeland (DB) 2018-19 Adrian Peterson (RB) 2020-present Landon Collins (DB/LB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 11/8/2021 at 7:23 PM, Discrim said: Oddly enough, the only other North American pro team that I've seen treat a number in a similar way the Cowboys treat #88...is, of all teams, the Bucks, who have issued #34 to Terry Cummings, then Ray Allen, and then Giannis. Granted, there were some scrubs in between all of them. Denver Nuggets #15 getting passed around from one likely HOFer to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 In the early 70's, the Minnesota Vikings had two home jerseys... one with stripes and one without... It seems to be a warm weather thing, as the stripeless one was worn early in the season, and again in Dallas in the championship. My guess is that the stripes were applied on the traditional jersey in the same way it had been done in the previous decade, that being directly woven into the fabric, which made a heavier fabric more necessary. The stripeless ones were most likely a newer, lighter man-made fabric and they hadn't yet worked out how to apply stripes to it. Just guessing... no one would've been talking about these things then. I always loved the look of the plain purple jersey with no stripes... classic. Apparently, the Dolphins had multiple jerseys with and without stripes around that same time, too. These are "interesting facts" to me, at least. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said: In the early 70's, the Minnesota Vikings had two home jerseys... one with stripes and one without... It seems to be a warm weather thing, as the stripeless one was worn early in the season, and again in Dallas in the championship. My guess is that the stripes were applied on the traditional jersey in the same way it had been done in the previous decade, that being directly woven into the fabric, which made a heavier fabric more necessary. The stripeless ones were most likely a newer, lighter man-made fabric and they hadn't yet worked out how to apply stripes to it. Just guessing... no one would've been talking about these things then. I always loved the look of the plain purple jersey with no stripes... classic. Apparently, the Dolphins had multiple jerseys with and without stripes around that same time, too. These are "interesting facts" to me, at least. The Dolphins had different helmet logos, too. I think you can see the Dolphin contained within the sun on Griese, but his out of the sun on Little. The Bears also had different white jerseys in the same timeframe, IIRC. I agree with your suggestion that these were temperature driven It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said: The Dolphins had different helmet logos, too. I think you can see the Dolphin contained within the sun on Griese, but his out of the sun on Little. The Bears also had different white jerseys in the same timeframe, IIRC. I agree with your suggestion that these were temperature driven Yeah, that late 60s-early 70s timeframe seemed to be when teams were transitioning from the old durene to mesh, as a gander at the GUD shows...the Bears, in addition to the two different white jerseys, also had two navy jerseys, in similar fashion to the Vikes: the durene version had the stripes, the mesh version was stripeless. Though they managed their rounded numbers on that but not the mesh whites for some reason. A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chawls Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 8:58 AM, Chawls said: The New England Patriots have had a losing season following each of their last FOUR major jersey changes. (1993, 1995, 2000, and 2020). Even more impressively, the losing season is the only one they’d have while wearing each jersey iteration. Quote If you hadn't noticed, Chawls loves his wrestling, whether it be real life or sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomba Tomba Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 2:04 PM, Chawls said: the losing season is the only one they’d have while wearing each jersey iteration. If only they can change jerseys every season If you read on the card you'll be cheating on your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 2:04 AM, Chawls said: The New England Patriots have had a losing season following each of their last FOUR major jersey changes. (1993, 1995, 2000, and 2020). Even more impressively, the losing season is the only one they’d have while wearing each jersey iteration. Would the 1994 jerseys (10-6) count in that? Different color numbers, different pants stripes. Jerseys were generally the same (blue with Elvis on the sleeves). Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 10:37 AM, oldschoolvikings said: In the early 70's, the Minnesota Vikings had two home jerseys... one with stripes and one without... It seems to be a warm weather thing, as the stripeless one was worn early in the season, and again in Dallas in the championship. My guess is that the stripes were applied on the traditional jersey in the same way it had been done in the previous decade, that being directly woven into the fabric, which made a heavier fabric more necessary. The stripeless ones were most likely a newer, lighter man-made fabric and they hadn't yet worked out how to apply stripes to it. Just guessing... no one would've been talking about these things then. I always loved the look of the plain purple jersey with no stripes... classic. Apparently, the Dolphins had multiple jerseys with and without stripes around that same time, too. These are "interesting facts" to me, at least. Ohio State did this with Rose Bowl jerseys as well in the 1960's and 70's. (1969) It wasn't consistent however, so I don't know why they didn't use their regular jerseys each time. (1973) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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