Indigo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 So….now that this firestorm of a debate is over… What teams are eligible for new uniforms? The Lions (not that they have to change) come to mind. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruhammydude Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 My alternate helmet wants VS my alternate helmet predictions BILLS: NONE vs NONE DOLPHINS: NONE vs NONE PATRIOTS: WHITE THROWBACK vs WHITE THROWBACK JETS: NAVY THROWBACK vs BLACK ALTERNATE RAVENS: NONE vs PURPLE COLOR RUSH BENGALS: NONE vs WHITE TIGER ALTERNATE BROWNS: NONE vs NONE STEELERS: NONE vs NONE TEXANS: NONE vs NONE COLTS: NONE vs NONE JAGUARS: NONE vs NONE TITANS: POWDER BLUE ALTERNATE vs NONE BRONCOS: ROYAL THROWBACK vs ROYAL THROWBACK CHIEFS: NONE vs NONE RAIDERS: NONE vs NONE CHARGERS: NAVY ALTERNATE vs NAVY ALTERNATE COWBOYS: WHITE THROWBACK vs WHITE THROWBACK GIANTS: NONE vs NONE EAGLES: KELLY GREEN THROWBACK vs KELLY GREEN THROWBACK COMMANDERS: NONE vs BLACK ALTERNATE BEARS: NONE vs NONE LIONS: NONE vs NONE PACKERS: NONE vs NONE VIKINGS: PURPLE THROWBACK vs PURPLE THROWBACK FALCONS: RED ALTERNATE vs RED THROWBACK PANTHERS: NONE vs BLACK ALTERNATE SAINTS: NONE vs BLACK ALTERNATE BUCCANEERS: WHITE THROWBACK vs WHITE THROWBACK CARDINALS: FAUX LEATHER BROWN THROWBACK vs BLACK ALTERNATE RAMS: NONE vs NONE 49ERS: NONE vs NONE SEAHAWKS: SILVER THROWBACK vs SILVER THROWBACK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroznYogurt Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 15 hours ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said: So….now that this firestorm of a debate is over… What teams are eligible for new uniforms? The Lions (not that they have to change) come to mind. Now eligible: Lions Eligible after 2022: Titans, Jaguars, Dolphins Eligible after 2023: Jets 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I would argue the Lions do need to change. Their hard-to-see silver numbers on their Honolulu blues are... well, hard to see. The odd addition of dark grey being in there as outlines would be significantly better as white. They got rid of black from the previous set only to include another unnecessary addition, grey. I won't even mention the alternates because they shouldn't even exist. Honorable mention: the William Clay Ford patch. I find it funny that they're copying their division rivals, but with an owner who is much more insignificant and hardly ever accomplished anything. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 20 hours ago, guest23 said: The flaw with your argument is that every example except for jags teal is a worse option than what they wear. You are reinforcing the point that the iconic franchises have selected their best option and alternatives worsen their look. I don't care for this argument. Primary because I don't think a team having one particular helmet for a long time means that its reached an evolutionary end point. Especially when it comes to helmets because the single helmet aesthetic really only came into being in 1950's and 1960's. The Cardinals used a white helmet for home and red helmets on the road as recently as 1957. We accept different helmets for home and away in hockey without even thinking about it. So here's my list of teams that could benefit from an alternate (non-throwback) helmet design: Eagles: White helmets with green wings with the all white uniform Commanders: Gold helmets with burgundy "W" Carolina: Black helmets with the blue over black uniform Falcons: Red helmets for division games Rams: Same shell but bring the white horns/facemask back with a plain royal/white uniform Cardinals: Red helmet for road games (also powder blue or sand road uniforms) Seattle: Grey paired with grey pants Bills: Red for division games Jaguars: Gold Texans: White helmet with solid white uniform Steelers: Gold helmet when wearing the color rush Ravens: Purple for games against the Steelers Raiders: Black helmet one day a year A few things stick out to me about this list. Almost all of these teams have changed their uniforms at some point or another in the last 50 years. They aren't that many "iconic" NFL looks left. A lot of this is in keeping with the current aesthetic or similar to past designs. My conclusion is that there's a lot of wiggle room when we look at alternate helmets. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleVermilion81 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said: I don't care for this argument. Primary because I don't think a team having one particular helmet for a long time means that its reached an evolutionary end point. Especially when it comes to helmets because the single helmet aesthetic really only came into being in 1950's and 1960's. The Cardinals used a white helmet for home and red helmets on the road as recently as 1957. We accept different helmets for home and away in hockey without even thinking about it. So here's my list of teams that could benefit from an alternate (non-throwback) helmet design: Eagles: White helmets with green wings with the all white uniform Commanders: Gold helmets with burgundy "W" Carolina: Black helmets with the blue over black uniform Falcons: Red helmets for division games Rams: Same shell but bring the white horns/facemask back with a plain royal/white uniform Cardinals: Red helmet for road games (also powder blue or sand road uniforms) Seattle: Grey paired with grey pants Bills: Red for division games Jaguars: Gold Texans: White helmet with solid white uniform Steelers: Gold helmet when wearing the color rush Ravens: Purple for games against the Steelers Raiders: Black helmet one day a year A few things stick out to me about this list. Almost all of these teams have changed their uniforms at some point or another in the last 50 years. They aren't that many "iconic" NFL looks left. A lot of this is in keeping with the current aesthetic or similar to past designs. My conclusion is that there's a lot of wiggle room when we look at alternate helmets. White helmets with all white uniforms is definitely not something any of those NFL teams would benefit from, and definitely not a bandwagon I want to see the NFL hopping on. It's something college teams do. It's one thing if that's already a part of a team's identity or history, because it's that team's individual brand. But to do it just for the sake of doing is just as annoying as teams doing BFBS. Team's should be sticking to their brand identities. Mostly in my view this means throwbacks, but I'm sure there could be an exception or two where a secondary helmet could fit in with that team's brand with an alt uniform. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, PaleVermilion81 said: White helmets with all white uniforms is definitely not something any of those NFL teams would benefit from, and definitely not a bandwagon I want to see the NFL hopping on. It's something college teams do. It's one thing if that's already a part of a team's identity or history, because it's that team's individual brand. But to do it just for the sake of doing is just as annoying as teams doing BFBS. Team's should be sticking to their brand identities. Mostly in my view this means throwbacks, but I'm sure there could be an exception or two where a secondary helmet could fit in with that team's brand with an alt uniform. I recommend a white helmet with white uniform for exactly two teams on that list. One of which already wore that look: The other was part of the team's initial aesthetic. Indeed I'm also recommending colored helmets for otherwise white capped teams (Bills/Cardinals) and in the Cardinals case, explicitly moving away from an all white uniform. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said: I don't care for this argument. Primary because I don't think a team having one particular helmet for a long time means that its reached an evolutionary end point. Especially when it comes to helmets because the single helmet aesthetic really only came into being in 1950's and 1960's. The Cardinals used a white helmet for home and red helmets on the road as recently as 1957. We accept different helmets for home and away in hockey without even thinking about it. So here's my list of teams that could benefit from an alternate (non-throwback) helmet design: Eagles: White helmets with green wings with the all white uniform Commanders: Gold helmets with burgundy "W" Carolina: Black helmets with the blue over black uniform Falcons: Red helmets for division games Rams: Same shell but bring the white horns/facemask back with a plain royal/white uniform Cardinals: Red helmet for road games (also powder blue or sand road uniforms) Seattle: Grey paired with grey pants Bills: Red for division games Jaguars: Gold Texans: White helmet with solid white uniform Steelers: Gold helmet when wearing the color rush Ravens: Purple for games against the Steelers Raiders: Black helmet one day a year A few things stick out to me about this list. Almost all of these teams have changed their uniforms at some point or another in the last 50 years. They aren't that many "iconic" NFL looks left. A lot of this is in keeping with the current aesthetic or similar to past designs. My conclusion is that there's a lot of wiggle room when we look at alternate helmets. Change for the sake of change. There are a few teams like the falcons or jets whose identity is not really settled as to what their best helmet color is but the vast majority of franchises don't need to mix and match or do home/away, div/non div. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, guest23 said: Change for the sake of change. There are a few teams like the falcons or jets whose identity is not really settled as to what their best helmet color is but the vast majority of franchises don't need to mix and match or do home/away, div/non div. Forgot about the Jets. Though I suppose that's more of a throwback look than a straight alternate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleVermilion81 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said: I recommend a white helmet with white uniform for exactly two teams on that list. One of which already wore that look: The other was part of the team's initial aesthetic. Indeed I'm also recommending colored helmets for otherwise white capped teams (Bills/Cardinals) and in the Cardinals case, explicitly moving away from an all white uniform. Yep I read what you wrote It's also why I said they wouldn't benefit from it. Eagles best secondary option is the Kelly green throwback. Houston Texans in all white with a white helmet also wouldn't be their best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsjetsthunder Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I would note a Panthers redesign is also eligible and very overdue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, PaleVermilion81 said: Yep I read what you wrote It's also why I said they wouldn't benefit from it. Eagles best secondary option is the Kelly green throwback. Houston Texans in all white with a white helmet also wouldn't be their best option. Ah, see I don’t want the Eagles to use Kelly green as an alternate. For me, it should be Kelly green all the way or nothing. I think it would be cool if they went with the 1990 uniforms (Kelly green with silver wings, green jerseys, silver pants) as their full time home uniform and the 1970 uniforms (white helmet with green wings, white jersey/pants) as their full time road uniform. Swapping out the jersey only when they either wear white at home or play a team that wears white at home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Keep in mind that this still exists and we can’t truly rule it out 1 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM0313 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Dynasty said: I would argue the Lions do need to change. Their hard-to-see silver numbers on their Honolulu blues are... well, hard to see. The odd addition of dark grey being in there as outlines would be significantly better as white. They got rid of black from the previous set only to include another unnecessary addition, grey. I won't even mention the alternates because they shouldn't even exist. Honorable mention: the William Clay Ford patch. I find it funny that they're copying their division rivals, but with an owner who is much more insignificant and hardly ever accomplished anything. A few white outlines and get rid of the dark grey, and they’re solid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 1 5 1 http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said: Some of these aren’t half bad. Others… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsjetsthunder Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Why do I want to see that New Century Gold Rams helmet?...... I guess some men just like to watch the world burn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsjetsthunder Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 In all seriousness though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, oldschoolvikings said: After seeing this mock-up, I have to say that many of these do indeed look stupid, and are objectively bad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 hours ago, DCarp1231 said: Keep in mind that this still exists and we can’t truly rule it out in what way do these "still exist"? You're just making things up for the sake of posting. 4 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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