fouhy12 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 18 hours ago, gosioux76 said: What purpose do they serve? Next question: Can they serve whatever that purpose is while occupying increasingly smaller spaces on ever-shrinking jerseys? No matter what you suggest their purpose is, the answer is going to be "no." As someone who watches a lot of coaches film, especially for the Patriots, trying to identify defensive linemen in particular without the shoulder numbers is really annoying. I usually use things like sleeves, socks, and shoes to identify players before numbers for the Patriots, which is not the case for other teams. When guys are in a pile, having the numbers in an additional spot definitely helps with picking guys out. As someone who used to broadcast, too, I can attest to more numbers being a positive from that perspective. It helps when players turn at odd angles and you can't see their front or back clearly. They absolutely have a purpose. 7 fouhy12's NFL Concepts 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, Sport said: And the TV numbers are very legible on the Packers. I don't take a hardline stance like our new friend thinks. Sometimes TV numbers are okay, but I'm also not going to argue that every football uniform must have them even when they're shrinking to a humorously small size like the Panthers and a couple other teams. One of my favorite football uniforms ever, actually, is the Eddie George era Ohio State with the champion numbers you could read from space. But that was at a time when shoulder pad real estate was at its absolute peak in terms of size and you could get away with it. It looked cool because you had the space to pull it off. Even with the size of those numbers there's still space for the stripes and room for the numbers to breathe. These days the space is at least half of what it was back then and if a team wants to use that space for a design element like a series of stripes or a logo then the first thing I'm cutting is the TV number, which isn't and never has been an absolute necessity (IDK if you know this, but there's two very large numbers on the front and back of a football jersey). If OSU went back to the correct sleeve stripes like the Good Dude intended then I wouldn't be bothered if they opted against TV numbers altogether or used the 68 throwback with the black TV number full-time. This also makes me think of this early-80s Sports Illustrated cover of LT and Mark Gastineau, whose shoulders were practically billboards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Mustache envy on full effect. 13 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: This also makes me think of this early-80s Sports Illustrated cover of LT and Mark Gastineau, whose shoulders were practically billboards. 1 http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, Sport said: This keeps coming up, but if Nike would just move their logo to the chestplate, there'd be enough room for TV numbers and full-length stripes (Pittsburgh), and maybe Carolina could still fit all three elements. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJD7 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said: This keeps coming up, but if Nike would just move their logo to the chestplate, there'd be enough room for TV numbers and full-length stripes (Pittsburgh), and maybe Carolina could still fit all three elements. I don’t think moving the Nike logo would make much of a difference for Carolina in particular, and it’s especially unnecessary when two out of the three elements (shoulder numbers, logo repeated from the helmet) aren’t really needed anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripall90 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Sport said: And the TV numbers are very legible on the Packers. I don't take a hardline stance like our new friend thinks. Sometimes TV numbers are okay, but I'm also not going to argue that every football uniform must have them even when they're shrinking to a humorously small size like the Panthers and a couple other teams. One of my favorite football uniforms ever, actually, is the Eddie George era Ohio State with the champion numbers you could read from space. But that was at a time when shoulder pad real estate was at its absolute peak in terms of size and you could get away with it. It looked cool because you had the space to pull it off. Even with the size of those numbers there's still space for the stripes and room for the numbers to breathe. These days the space is at least half of what it was back then and if a team wants to use that space for a design element like a series of stripes or a logo then the first thing I'm cutting is the TV number, which isn't and never has been an absolute necessity (IDK if you know this, but there's two very large numbers on the front and back of a football jersey). If OSU went back to the correct sleeve stripes like the Good Dude intended then I wouldn't be bothered if they opted against TV numbers altogether or used the 68 throwback with the black TV number full-time. If you make those number white and larger they look fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERRIN Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said: This keeps coming up, but if Nike would just move their logo to the chestplate, there'd be enough room for TV numbers and full-length stripes (Pittsburgh), and maybe Carolina could still fit all three elements. In most cases, I'd prefer shrinking it a bit and placing it inside the collar, but with the NFL shield being placed there, the shoulder cap is best. If there isn't room, I'd be fine with it being on the chest like it is in college football and other sports. My non-NFL football concepts always go shoulder cap first and collar if there isn't room. 1 2 Perrin Grubb | Aspiring Designer | NAFA Project ~ NFL Redesigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Maybe it’s the lighting (and it probably is) but the Cowboys throwback (fauxback) helmet looks like a brighter blue than the previous iteration. More like the original uniform these are supposed to be a throwback to. I’m also of the opinion that these Power Ranger looking a** helmets look terrible. 4 Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Rockstar Matt said: Maybe it’s the lighting (and it probably is) but the Cowboys throwback (fauxback) helmet looks like a brighter blue than the previous iteration. More like the original uniform these are supposed to be a throwback to. I’m also of the opinion that these Power Ranger looking a** helmets look terrible. VS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERRIN Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Rockstar Matt said: Maybe it’s the lighting (and it probably is) but the Cowboys throwback (fauxback) helmet looks like a brighter blue than the previous iteration. More like the original uniform these are supposed to be a throwback to. I’m also of the opinion that these Power Ranger looking a** helmets look terrible. I thought I saw somewhere that the Cowboys would use this helmet both for the Thanksgiving throwbacks and for the color rush set, though neither are royal so I'm not sure what the deal is here. Perrin Grubb | Aspiring Designer | NAFA Project ~ NFL Redesigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Rockstar Matt said: Maybe it’s the lighting (and it probably is) but the Cowboys throwback (fauxback) helmet looks like a brighter blue than the previous iteration. More like the original uniform these are supposed to be a throwback to. I’m also of the opinion that these Power Ranger looking a** helmets look terrible. Megazord ass helmet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Chromatic said: Megazord ass helmet. *Megazord sequence HAS BEEN INITIATED...* 1 4 *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, tBBP said: *Megazord sequence HAS BEEN INITIATED...* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjets21 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Is it possible the new owner of Washington would change that terrible name? Even if not would a new owner be granted a waiver to change the uniforms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Rockstar Matt said: Maybe it’s the lighting (and it probably is) but the Cowboys throwback (fauxback) helmet looks like a brighter blue than the previous iteration. More like the original uniform these are supposed to be a throwback to. I’m also of the opinion that these Power Ranger looking a** helmets look terrible. Isn't it weird that we haven't seen the jersey yet? Everyone has assumed that the Cowboys were just bringing back the navy. The Giants are gonna be wearing blue in that game and the idea of Navy vs. Royal doesn't make any sense at all. Could the Cowboys be wearing white throwbacks as a surprise? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_YouKnowWhatThatMeans Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 hours ago, gosioux76 said: This also makes me think of this early-80s Sports Illustrated cover of LT and Mark Gastineau, whose shoulders were practically billboards. I miss that background. In the 80s and early 90s, "downtown" was a black/purple/pink background with silhouetted, light-on buildings. It always made me feel like there was this whole separate world that happened at night, which was of course reinforced by a variety of workplace comedies and movies. Now I know everyone just goes home by 5 p.m. and the only people in office buildings late at night are the cleaning crew. But still, I really enjoyed that aesthetic. Also, "Steppin' Out" by Joe Jackson is a top 10 song to me and perfectly captures that era. 2 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Old School Fool said: Isn't it weird that we haven't seen the jersey yet? Everyone has assumed that the Cowboys were just bringing back the navy. The Giants are gonna be wearing blue in that game and the idea of Navy vs. Royal doesn't make any sense at all. Could the Cowboys be wearing white throwbacks as a surprise? That would be interesting. Maybe? There is a lot of white on this uniform, so maybe a navy throwback vs. the Giants royal blue would contrast enough, but we'll see. I do agree it's strange that we haven't seen the throwbacks at all, although the Cowboys have seemingly indicated it's the old throwbacks from last decade, also judging too from their pro-store and the jerseys they sell. Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Apparently the Texans have begun early exploration on updating their uniforms. I would put Houston firmly in the category of solid, modern uniforms that could so very easily be tossed aside for the next Nike monstrosity. The article says fans have been clamoring for new uniforms but a lot of times, you don’t realize how good you have it until you’re wearing a gradient with wordmarks down the leg and shiny trim. I would be happy if they stuck with what they have. https://www.houstontexans.com/news/how-the-battle-red-helmet-inspired-a-texans-uniform-change 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Old School Fool said: Isn't it weird that we haven't seen the jersey yet? Everyone has assumed that the Cowboys were just bringing back the navy. The Giants are gonna be wearing blue in that game and the idea of Navy vs. Royal doesn't make any sense at all. Could the Cowboys be wearing white throwbacks as a surprise? It has to be the navy throwbacks, because the uniform had to be in last year's style guide for them to pair it with the new alt helmet. That's why we aren't seeing Bucco Bruce or the royal Seahawks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shstpt1 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, aawagner011 said: Apparently the Texans have begun early exploration on updating their uniforms. I would put Houston firmly in the category of solid, modern uniforms that could so very easily be tossed aside for the next Nike monstrosity. The article says fans have been clamoring for new uniforms but a lot of times, you don’t realize how good you have it until you’re wearing a gradient with wordmarks down the leg and shiny trim. I would be happy if they stuck with what they have. https://www.houstontexans.com/news/how-the-battle-red-helmet-inspired-a-texans-uniform-change I would be happy with either swapping the Red jersey to primary so you have Navy/Red/White as your main combo, or the Red helmet as the primary helmet, and go Red/Navy/White. Something to break up all the navy. It just looks so dingy most of the time. I like the design, but... something to freshen it up would be nice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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