Indigo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Cujo said: "A dozen BigTen teams wear red and white. Change them all!!!!" It's college. There are 1000s of teams. You're going to have overlap. In the NFL, there are 32 teams, and while there is overlap, no 2 teams use the same exact colors and design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Detroit- all they gotta do is take this and run with it. It’s literally a blank template. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said: In the NFL, there are 32 teams, and while there is overlap, no 2 teams use the same exact colors and design. Except for the Cowboys and Lions -- and maybe Broncos and Bears. See. If Dallas owns full-blown navy/silver (which they should!) there's really no clash at all. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 11 hours ago, throwuascenario said: I'll never understand why everyone on these boards thinks that if any two teams look even remotely close to each other on a glace from the corner of your eye, the world will end. Two teams can have similar colors, uniforms, whatever. Especially if they're not even rivals. Each team should do what fits their brand the best. They shouldn't even put an ounce of thought into how similar it looks to another team. Sure, but part of "fitting their brand" is having distinction. I'm not one of the people who thinks teams can't look remotely close to each other, but I do think they should put at least "an ounce" of thought into having a unique identity. Part of building a brand is having something you can own. Most people agree the Bears have a pretty strong look, most people would not want to see the Broncos running around in exact copies of the Bears uniforms with a 'D' in lieu of a 'C' just because it looks good. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 13 hours ago, throwuascenario said: everyone This word almost always guarantees that a post will be incorrect. 5 4 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, BBTV said: This word almost always guarantees that a post will be incorrect. Extra props for throwing almost in front of always. Well played. 2 1 It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Chromatic said: Sure, but part of "fitting their brand" is having distinction. I'm not one of the people who thinks teams can't look remotely close to each other, but I do think they should put at least "an ounce" of thought into having a unique identity. Part of building a brand is having something you can own. Most people agree the Bears have a pretty strong look, most people would not want to see the Broncos running around in exact copies of the Bears uniforms with a 'D' in lieu of a 'C' just because it looks good. And consider that branding and uniforms today are done largely in a centralized league office and it makes sense that you'd want 32 distinct identities. That doesn't explain how the Toronto Maple Leafs and Tampa Bay Lightning exist, but they're kind of the exception that proves why teams should look at the environment they're going to play in before committing to anything. The Lions road uniforms of those days while similar to the Cowboys looked less like the Cowboys in action than they do looking back at still photos. The Cowboys had those awful greenish pants and their blues are all over the place. I didn't have any problems at the time telling the two teams apart. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCdog Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 16 hours ago, DCarp1231 said: Detroit- all they gotta do is take this and run with it. It’s literally a blank template. The Wayne Fontes - era Lions of the early 90’s were the best uniforms this franchise has ever had. Slap the current logo on the helmet and it’s perfection. On 11/5/2022 at 12:04 PM, Volt said: Embedding both here, they display a little larger. This is great Photoshop work. These needed to be added some way, some how to their uniform set as an alternate. Would be curious to see these in today's Honolulu Blue with the current logo. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacat_12 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 18 hours ago, throwuascenario said: Each team should do what fits their brand the best. They shouldn't even put an ounce of thought into how similar it looks to another team. I mean if you are part of a pro sports league your brand doesn't exist in a vacuum. You obviously want to prioritize your own brand, but not putting any consideration into what other teams are doing is how you end up with a Tampa Bay Lightning situation. The whole point of uniforms in sports is so you can turn on a game and immediately know who's playing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Sport said: And consider that branding and uniforms today are done largely in a centralized league office and it makes sense that you'd want 32 distinct identities. That doesn't explain how the Toronto Maple Leafs and Tampa Bay Lightning exist, but they're kind of the exception that proves why teams should look at the environment they're going to play in before committing to anything. The Lions road uniforms of those days while similar to the Cowboys looked less like the Cowboys in action than they do looking back at still photos. The Cowboys had those awful greenish pants and their blues are all over the place. I didn't have any problems at the time telling the two teams apart. Not exactly. We don't really have the league involved beyond big picture stuff. We have a single uniform manufacturer but that's not so different from the days when 2 or 3 companies did everything. The individual team promotions departments have a lot of the power and its rare that one of them goes to Nike and says "go crazy." So much of the Cowboys/Lions similarities stem from teams in the 60's working from more or less the same tool set. The three stripe pattern became more or less the standard for pants in the mid-60's. In 1964, only Washington and Los Angeles a different pattern and on the Steelers. With helmets, of the teams wearing stripes, 5 had three stripes with 3 with one stripe. The Cowboys started with very obvious metallic blue helmets and pants and the Lions used a very, very pale silver that contrasted with a much deeper blue. By 1968, the two teams already looked very similar. As time went on, the Cowboys veered into a much more silver metallic shade, you can only really see the original color on the helmet. The Lions switched to white numbers as well. I think I like the idea of the Lions distinguishing themselves against Dallas by wearing Honolulu blue pants with white jerseys in the unlilkely incident the Cowboys opt for navy blue and making sure the blue jersey always has silver numbers. They could go a step further by making the silver extra pale. Much lighter than the current shade, which would have the added bonus of showing more contrast against the blue jersey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Actually, if Nike would like to get a little creative with reflective fabrics, the Lions might be a good place for that. Imagine this but instead of green and yellow, Honolulu blue and silver: Aaaand maybe a chrome helmet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said: Actually, if Nike would like to get a little creative with reflective fabrics, the Lions might be a good place for that. Imagine this but instead of green and yellow, Honolulu blue and silver: Aaaand maybe a chrome helmet. Don't take this personally, but no thanks. That's a college aesthetic, not a pro one. Why yes, I am yelling at clouds right now 2 1 It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Carolingian Steamroller said: Actually, if Nike would like to get a little creative with reflective fabrics, the Lions might be a good place for that. Imagine this but instead of green and yellow, Honolulu blue and silver: Aaaand maybe a chrome helmet. 6 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said: Don't take this personally, but no thanks. That's a college aesthetic, not a pro one. Why yes, I am yelling at clouds right now I can't disagree with you, but it's worth pointing out that a number treatment like that might solve the whole "lack of white" problem on their uniforms. These would likely stand out much more under indoor lighting than the non-shiny gray numbers do now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinturner95 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said: I thought I would hate this, but surprisingly I don't. Though the whole number being chrome/reflective does seem like a bit much, maybe just the outline would suffice. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: I can't disagree with you, but it's worth pointing out that a number treatment like that might solve the whole "lack of white" problem on their uniforms. These would likely stand out much more under indoor lighting than the non-shiny gray numbers do now. Returning the favor, I can't disagree with you, but white would be better 2 It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 What if Detriot took a page out of the NBA's book and went oversimplified? 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 We’re a year out from the Jets changing uniforms (I hope) and I just want to say how much I miss these. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said: What if Detriot took a page out of the NBA's book and went oversimplified? I think it still needs white. The white outline on 'Bubbles' (the original Lion logo) was added mid-season in 1970 for better television contrast. Hi-def TVs make that less necessary, but I think it helps. Id rather there be some white on the uniform a well. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 10:58 AM, DCarp1231 said: If Tennessee can do double blue, and the Chargers have triple blue, the Cowboys should just say f*** it and do quadruple blue leaving Detroit as the sole proprietors of singular blue and silver What are you talking about? Yes they use 3 blues, but it’s for 3 different sets and they aren’t interchangeable. The cowboys use 2 blues, 3 silvers, and black all in the same uniform combo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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