J.R. Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 The thought just popped in my head watching his team get bent over in Game Six.Let the discussion begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I dont know but I say its possible www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZapRowsdower8 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I don't follow the NBA, everything I know is from SportsCenter highlights. That being said, I think it is almost a 100% chance that he will be fired. The didn't just lose these games they got manhandled. Mark Cuban wants his title, this was their best shot, they blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I don't think it's Avery Johnson's fault. Dirk Nowitzki was nowhere to be found aside from the last few minutes of game five. Avery Johnson did set a bad tone when he changed the starting lineup for game one, but other than that... what could he really do? His superstar reverted back to how he played years ago, the other team was just insane with the shots they were hitting, and the atmosphere inside Oracle Arena was absolutely ridiculous and I wish I could've been there to experience it first hand.Besides, lost in all of this talk of "biggest upset ever"... Golden State is a much better team than their number eight seed indicates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 No. Hell no. He led the Mavs to the Finals last year and was two games away from a title, and this year he led the team to damn near 70 wins. Who the hell could you possibly bring in that is going to get that kind of productivity in their first two years? Are you gonna dig up Red and prop him up with a handtruck on the sidelines? On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 No. Hell no. He led the Mavs to the Finals last year and was two games away from a title, and this year he led the team to damn near 70 wins. Who the hell could you possibly bring in that is going to get that kind of productivity in their first two years? Are you gonna dig up Red and prop him up with a handtruck on the sidelines?It would certainly be a colossal mistake and absolute shame because he is, and always has been, one of my favorite personalities in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Let's remember 2 things here.1-Don Nelson coaches the Warriors. I found this similar to Super Bowl XXXVII, when the coach's current team crushes the coach's former team, perhaps due to familiarity with players and playbooks. Plus remember, Johnson was Nelson's protege, so Nelson of course knew how Avery would coach.2-The seed that the Warriors received does not reflect the current makeup of the team. A lot of the losses were before the Indiana trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 i'm no follower of the mavs but it would be a serious mistake to fire him. hes a good up and comming coach and maybe they can use this as a wake up call and motivate them next year. i think dallas got over confident with themselves and expected to be handed the series. Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDR Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 If Nellie cut a promo on Avery Johnson, this line would surely be included: "Avery, I taught you everything you know. But, I didn't teach you everything I know. Woooooo!"Anyway, in typical reactionary NBA fashion, I could absolutely see Johnson fired. It would be a colossal mistake in my view. How many coaches have the balls to go out in public and challenge their best player, a possible MVP candidate? If he doesn't do what he did to Dirk, I don't think there even is a Game 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korkie Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 He should not be fired. This was just the perfect storm against his team. Imagine how different things would be if Phil Jackson was fired after losing in the playoffs before finally breaking through. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed."Dr. Kelso: My son is a big baseball fan. Not so much playing it, but more the designing and sewing of uniforms.Tyler: That's neat.Dr. Kelso: No, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telemundo219 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Let's remember 2 things here.1-Don Nelson coaches the Warriors. I found this similar to Super Bowl XXXVII, when the coach's current team crushes the coach's former team, perhaps due to familiarity with players and playbooks. Plus remember, Johnson was Nelson's protege, so Nelson of course knew how Avery would coach.2-The seed that the Warriors received does not reflect the current makeup of the team. A lot of the losses were before the Indiana trade.Agreed. Definitely. College sports as we know them are just about dead. The lid is off on all the corruption that taints just about every major program and every decision that the schools or the NCAA make is only about money, money, and more money. We'll have three 16+ team super-conferences sooner rather than later, killing much of the regional flair and traditional rivalries that make college sports unique and showing the door to any school that doesn't bring money to the table in the process. Pretty soon the smaller schools are going to have to consider forming their own sanctioning body to keep the true spirit of college sports alive because the NCAA will only get worse in it's excess from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Hell no, you don't fire Avery Johnson. Cuban fired Nellie because they couldn't stand each other, not because he couldn't win the big one. Avery and Cuban get along. He's not going anywhere. Look at how long Rick Adelman was allowed to languish in Sac Town. As long as dude keeps making the playoffs, he should be okay. Provided they don't flame out in the first round as the top seed again (do it once, it's an anomally; do it twice, it's your legacy). Also, look for some big ol' changes to that roster too! On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 It ain't Avery's fault. Blame Cuban for assembling a team of paper tigers, centered around the biggest fraud of 'em all, Dirk Nowitzki.Don Nelson played the Mavs like a Stradivarius. It was beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 i think dallas got over confident with themselves and expected to be handed the series.Exactly. The Mav players probably figured that even though they got swept by the Warriors during the season, they'd still whomp them in the playoffs because the playoffs are a whole 'nother animal. It most certainly was. The Mavs got beat beyond their wildest dreams when they did lose. That being said, it would be a big ol mistake if the Mavs fired Johnson. 67 wins is 67 wins, and coming 2 games and questionable officiating within an NBA title is a pretty good tracksheet. So I'd keep him, and I figure that's what Cuban's going to do too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Fire him? For what? Because he was flat-out pwned by his mentor, the same guy who coached the Mavs while he was grooming AJ for the head coaching job in Dallas? It took a long time for Darth Vader to beat Obi-Wan, and that was only 'cause he let Vader win...So why fire AJ? He had the misfortune of getting a Golden State team whose roster improved dramatically after a mid-season trade, gelled at the right time and was vastly underseeded based on the makeup of the team at the start of the playoffs?Seriously, AJ can coach. He was dealt a bad hand through no fault of his own. He got outcoached by the man who built his system and had a team far better than a #8 seed. LMU nailed this one perfectly. "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 On a side note Dirk is 8-15 against NorCal teams in the playoffs BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Im suprised Mark Cuban didnt name himself as coach years ago! Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 heh, I just realized the Warriors even had a winning season a few days ago...damn I'm slow I'd been under a basketball rock since the Bucks' season finally ended, I'd assumed Baron and Co. were hitting the links. Little did I know they were hittin the Mavs...and hard at that. A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VandyDelphia Mike Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 If the San Diego Chargers can show Marty Schottenheimer the door after going 14-2 in the regular season and then losing as a higher seed in the playoffs with home-field, why wouldn't the Mavericks fire Avery Johnson?Yes, I know the analogy isn't fully apples-to-apples.Time to break out a (slightly-modified) oldie-but-goodie. NCAA Baseball Champions | 2014, 2019 facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 If the San Diego Chargers can show Marty Schottenheimer the door after going 14-2 in the regular season and then losing as a higher seed in the playoffs with home-field, why wouldn't the Mavericks fire Avery Johnson?Because Mark Cuban is actually smart, and wouldn't let petty squabbling between GMs and coaches get in the way of team success? [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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