2009 NFL Season Thread

[Cujo]

Where is the Favre bashing going to get anyone two f'ing games out of the season he has a bad game and if anyone expected this season out him is lying to themselves. It's a joke.

The real joke has been Minnesota's schedule thus far. Wins against the Browns, Lions twice, 49ers, Rams, Ravens, Packers twice, Seahwaks, Bears. That's the primary reason why they're 10-1, now 10-2.

Nobody in the NFC North can help their schedule

Okay. Outside of their division.... Browns, 49ers, Rams, Ravens, Seahwaks. That looks just as pathetic.

[IceCap]

Where is the Favre bashing going to get anyone two f'ing games out of the season he has a bad game and if anyone expected this season out him is lying to themselves. It's a joke.

I'll try my best to respond.

Brett Farve is, without a doubt, a future Hall of Famer. He is a great talent.

That being said, his constant "will I or won't I retire?" routine after every season, his prima donna exit from Green Bay, and his just general treatment of the NFL as his own soap opera have worn thin. Not only that, but the media seems to encourage this. The experts fawn over him, overplay his accomplishments, rewrite history to make him look like the victim of the Green Bay situation, and never blame him for any of the mistakes he makes. It's always the o-line, the receivers, or the coaches. It's the Vikings "being hit hard at one position" or the other team playing at extraordinary levels. It's never Farve's fault, even when it is. The media treats him like a sacred cow, and more then a few people are getting, or have been, tired of it.

It's a shame, it really is, because he is a great talent. He's just wearing thin on peoples' nerves, and he's partly to blame for that.

[BigMac12]

I think Lienart needs to be cut after this season...

[NEW.ERA]

Where is the Favre bashing going to get anyone two f'ing games out of the season he has a bad game and if anyone expected this season out him is lying to themselves. It's a joke.

I'll try my best to respond.

Brett Farve is, without a doubt, a future Hall of Famer. He is a great talent.

That being said, his constant "will I or won't I retire?" routine after every season, his prima donna exit from Green Bay, and his just general treatment of the NFL as his own soap opera have worn thin. Not only that, but the media seems to encourage this. The experts fawn over him, overplay his accomplishments, rewrite history to make him look like the victim of the Green Bay situation, and never blame him for any of the mistakes he makes. It's always the o-line, the receivers, or the coaches. It's the Vikings "being hit hard at one position" or the other team playing at extraordinary levels. It's never Farve's fault, even when it is. The media treats him like a sacred cow, and more then a few people are getting, or have been, tired of it.

It's a shame, it really is, because he is a great talent. He's just wearing thin on peoples' nerves, and he's partly to blame for that.

I agree he should have got his S**T straight way back in 2005 but we just have to learn to deal with it the media will never ever shut up about Brett until he finally decides to call it a career. He loves the game too much and you can't take that a way from him the whole situation just gets me so mad I may be a Packer fan but I will always have a spot for Brett Favre with me he was my favorite player growing up.

[IceCap]

I don't have to learn to deal with anything of the sort. The media needs to stop treating him like he's God`s gift to the quarterback position. It's downright embarrassing to see grown men, proclaimed experts of their sport, fawning over someone like this. If he truly was the best of all time, sure. I could understand that. He's not though.

Also, I'm not trying to take away his "love of the game." He can play as long as he wants. I rather he just say at the end of season "yeah, I`m good for another season" rather then this drawn out "will I or won't I" affair.

[Viper]

Where is the Favre bashing going to get anyone two f'ing games out of the season he has a bad game and if anyone expected this season out him is lying to themselves. It's a joke.

I'll try my best to respond.

Brett Farve is, without a doubt, a future Hall of Famer. He is a great talent.

That being said, his constant "will I or won't I retire?" routine after every season, his prima donna exit from Green Bay, and his just general treatment of the NFL as his own soap opera have worn thin. Not only that, but the media seems to encourage this. The experts fawn over him, overplay his accomplishments, rewrite history to make him look like the victim of the Green Bay situation, and never blame him for any of the mistakes he makes. It's always the o-line, the receivers, or the coaches. It's the Vikings "being hit hard at one position" or the other team playing at extraordinary levels. It's never Farve's fault, even when it is. The media treats him like a sacred cow, and more then a few people are getting, or have been, tired of it.

It's a shame, it really is, because he is a great talent. He's just wearing thin on peoples' nerves, and he's partly to blame for that.

I agree he should have got his S**T straight way back in 2005 but we just have to learn to deal with it the media will never ever shut up about Brett until he finally decides to call it a career. He loves the game too much and you can't take that a way from him the whole situation just gets me so mad I may be a Packer fan but I will always have a spot for Brett Favre with me he was my favorite player growing up.

What Panda said.

With that out of the way though, with both Favre and Peterson suddenly having awful games, and the Vikings' D taking another big hit with E.J. Henderson going down, I wonder if this is the beginning of the other shoe dropping on the Vikings, as it always seems to do every time they flirt with a great season.

[rams80]

Where is the Favre bashing going to get anyone two f'ing games out of the season he has a bad game and if anyone expected this season out him is lying to themselves. It's a joke.

The real joke has been Minnesota's schedule thus far. Wins against the Browns, Lions twice, 49ers, Rams, Ravens, Packers twice, Seahwaks, Bears. That's the primary reason why they're 10-1, now 10-2.

Nobody in the NFC North can help their schedule

Okay. Outside of their division.... Browns, 49ers, Rams, Ravens, Seahwaks. That looks just as pathetic.

And unfortunately, this cupcake schedule is one of the reasons why the Rams will miss out on the House of Spears come Draft Day.

(That and playing BOTH Indy and New Orleans-bleeping Strength of Schedule tiebreak)

[twi]

Am I the only one still disgusted about what Vick did?

Absolutely not. I can't understand how he could be cheered like that.

He and Ray Lewis, the only time I ever root for an ACL blowout.

Sidenote: Goddam Chris Berman is annoying.

[MDC]

Am I the only one still disgusted about what Vick did?

Absolutely not. I can't understand how he could be cheered like that.

He and Ray Lewis, the only time I ever root for an ACL blowout.

Sidenote: Goddam Chris Berman is annoying.

Yeah, but its funny we he runs out of breath two words into a sentence.

[twi]

Am I the only one still disgusted about what Vick did?

Absolutely not. I can't understand how he could be cheered like that.

He and Ray Lewis, the only time I ever root for an ACL blowout.

Sidenote: Goddam Chris Berman is annoying.

Yeah, but its funny we he runs out of breath two words into a sentence.

Almost as painful as Terry Bradshaw stumbling through the "fast" highlights.

[NEW.ERA]

For anyone that didn't see E.J. Henderson's injury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tb12jQtskE&feature=player_embedded

Not for the faint of heart.

[Cujo]

...And so begins Favre's and Romo's annual December collapse.

[FiddySicks]

Well it's questionable play calling and offensive lineman injuries I don't think that's Brett's fault.

And I'm just going to say this now E.J. Henderson is the most underrated linebacker in the game.

Well, he was. That was one of the worst leg injuries I've seen in a long time.

I was wrong. I thought his knee went. It's actually a Busted Femur

[DarkJourney]

Is there a less relevant division in major pro sports than the NFC West?

The current reigning NFC champions reside there. So I don't think it's that less relevant besides the defending NFC champions just beat the mighty Minnesota Favres.

[DarkJourney]

And the Seahawks win!

Nothing like throwing the proverbial monkey wrench to the Forty Whiners' dimmed out playoff hopes.

They both suck balls. Who f'n cares.

[Jigga]

Is there a less relevant division in major pro sports than the NFC West?

The current reigning NFC champions reside there. So I don't think it's that less relevant besides the defending NFC champions just beat the mighty Minnesota Favres.

So f***ing what? Relevance has very little to do with winning...it's more about being interesting than being good. Don't get me wrong, being really good for a while may generate interest, but you mean to tell me people outside of San Fran, Seattle, St. Louis, and Phoenix give a damn about any of these teams?

[infrared41]

Is there a less relevant division in major pro sports than the NFC West?

The current reigning NFC champions reside there. So I don't think it's that less relevant besides the defending NFC champions just beat the mighty Minnesota Favres.

So f***ing what? Relevance has very little to do with winning...it's more about being interesting than being good. Don't get me wrong, being really good for a while may generate interest, but you mean to tell me people outside of San Fran, Seattle, St. Louis, and Phoenix give a damn about any of these teams?

St. Louis and Seattle have NFL teams?

[NJTank]

The Vikings were due for a stinker, if Favre is bad next week then its time for concern.

As for the Cowboys I can best do it in song,

Its begining to look a like Christmas, toys in every store, Tony Romo and the Cowboys are choking it up again.

[DEAD!]

Is there a less relevant division in major pro sports than the NFC West?

The current reigning NFC champions reside there. So I don't think it's that less relevant besides the defending NFC champions just beat the mighty Minnesota Favres.

So f***ing what? Relevance has very little to do with winning...it's more about being interesting than being good. Don't get me wrong, being really good for a while may generate interest, but you mean to tell me people outside of San Fran, Seattle, St. Louis, and Phoenix give a damn about any of these teams?

St. Louis and Seattle have NFL teams?

I've heard rumours about Cleveland having one as well.

[BlueSky]

Sig bet, I'm in. We going straight up results of the two Saints-Falcons games, best records overall, what?

Since the basis of discussion deals with the regular season, let's do overall record.

Okay boys, more on today's game later, but just wanted you to know I hadn't forgotten about this.

Remind me on Week 17 to put it up....

Crazy me. Thought once it became impossible for one of the teams to win more than the other the bet would be over. But okay, I'll remind you after week 17.

That game was bizarre. It's the first one this year I haven't watched. Listened via Sirius as my wife and I worked in the yard. Was pretty bummed when the Redskins lined up for that FG at the end. Couldn't believe he missed. Also couldn't believe Vilma didn't try harder to stay inbounds and score when he got that pick. But hey, all's well that ends well.

Falcon fans, their '98 SB run is before my time in the Atlanta area. I'm familiar with the NFC Championship win in Minnesota but did they have any crazy lucky wins that year like the Saints did yesterday?